12 Team Playoff

redwine65

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seems to me 12 is unfair cause it gives people byes...
I would go 8, champ from each p5 conferance..
then 3 from the remaining top highest ranked..so if a g5 is good enough they can get in..

that would add 3 games to a season (for a NC) after a conferance champ game...which seems reasonable
 

Redscarlet

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seems to me 12 is unfair cause it gives people byes...
I would go 8, champ from each p5 conferance..
then 3 from the remaining top highest ranked..so if a g5 is good enough they can get in..

that would add 3 games to a season (for a NC) after a conferance champ game...which seems reasonable
I don’t like the idea of 16 teams either.. Seems the biggest discussion will be how the 5th seed didn’t get a bye over the 4th seed..
 

cornhead1

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Not bad, better than right now. I think you should have to win your conference to be in the top 4.

I always liked the 8 team playoff with five conference champs and 3 at-large, but that doesn't really work now with the BIG 10 and SEC expanding.
 

redwine65

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I don’t like the idea of 16 teams either.. Seems the biggest discussion will be how the 5th seed didn’t get a bye over the 4th seed..
yeah 16 teams seem to add too many game late in the season also...
if they can't figure out the best team out of 5 conferance champs and 3 of the remaining highest rated...I'm not sure they should be in charge...and 4 games to start could be the big 4 historic bowls...rose, orange, sugar and cotton.....

 

Redscarlet

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yeah 16 teams seem to add too many game late in the season also...
if they can't figure out the best team out of 5 conferance champs and 3 of the remaining highest rated...I'm not sure they should be in charge...and 4 games to start could be the big 4 historic bowls...rose, orange, sugar and cotton.....
Which could also make a end to the B1G and PAC? Rose Bowl..
 

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I don’t like the idea of 16 teams either.. Seems the biggest discussion will be how the 5th seed didn’t get a bye over the 4th seed..
The hot topic is 4or 5 who doesn’t get in ,that won’t be a big problem with 12 or 13 because either will loose, but you are correct on the bye that’s huge ,a lot of lingering bumps and bruises from the year can be fixed on a week.
 

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seems to me 12 is unfair cause it gives people byes...
I would go 8, champ from each p5 conferance..
then 3 from the remaining top highest ranked..so if a g5 is good enough they can get in..

that would add 3 games to a season (for a NC) after a conferance champ game...which seems reasonable

The 5 conference champions are the five highest rated teams, who won their conference title game. Would not necessarily be P5 programs, when you look at AAC champ last year.
 

redwine65

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Not bad, better than right now. I think you should have to win your conference to be in the top 4.

I always liked the 8 team playoff with five conference champs and 3 at-large, but that doesn't really work now with the BIG 10 and SEC expanding.
you know 2 of the 3 remaining highest rated will go to #2 in the sec and big...with the hype surrounding the 2 conferances.
 

redwine65

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Which could also make a end to the B1G and PAC? Rose Bowl..
what do I care about the rose bowl?...they dumped the big 8 and the orange bowl connection..
plus it's not like the big really cares about the pac, ripping 60% of their tv market away from them...and I think they will have oregon wash and maybe stanford in the big by the time the next contract runs out
 

Redscarlet

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The 5 conference champions are the five highest rated teams, who won their conference title game. Would not necessarily be P5 programs, when you look at AAC champ last year.
There hasn’t been anything said the 5 power conference champions will have the five highest seeds..
 

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So if the BIG takes Washington and Oregon someone from the pac 12 will make the playoffs at maybe 8-4 or 7-5 ?? Go down to 4 conferences BIG, sec, acc and big 12 take the 4 champs and the next 8 highest seeds with a 3 team cap on every conference. This also assumes the sec doesn't take Clemson and Miami
 

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seems to me 12 is unfair cause it gives people byes...
I would go 8, champ from each p5 conferance..
then 3 from the remaining top highest ranked..so if a g5 is good enough they can get in..

that would add 3 games to a season (for a NC) after a conferance champ game...which seems reasonable
The problem with that is that it treats all P5 conferences as equals. And as we know, some conferences are more equal than others.

With more teams, more likely that the SEC and B1G each have more participants than all non B1G/SEC combined.
 

UMPY

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The problem with that is that it treats all P5 conferences as equals. And as we know, some conferences are more equal than others.

With more teams, more likely that the SEC and B1G each have more participants than all non B1G/SEC combined.
They went to 12 to give Notre Dame a chance because they are going to stay independent
 

redwine65

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The problem with that is that it treats all P5 conferences as equals. And as we know, some conferences are more equal than others.

With more teams, more likely that the SEC and B1G each have more participants than all non B1G/SEC combined.
well I guess 16 teams it is, so everyone and their mom get in...except us..lol
that actually leaves conferance champs in a bind, cause it's hard to beat a good team twice...see bama vs georgia last year...or like that year when we beat 0u, then had to play them again in a bowl..
 

redwine65

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So if the BIG takes Washington and Oregon someone from the pac 12 will make the playoffs at maybe 8-4 or 7-5 ?? Go down to 4 conferences BIG, sec, acc and big 12 take the 4 champs and the next 8 highest seeds with a 3 team cap on every conference. This also assumes the sec doesn't take Clemson and Miami
it would be nice if the pac an big 12 merged, and the big 12 sent wv and ufc to the acc...
4, 20 team conferences would be the best set up....80 teams total..

but I won't get started on that again.....
 

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12 is much better than what we have now. But 16 would be so much better. I hate giving teams a bye. Plus I'd like 4 more teams to be in contention.
 

Redscarlet

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College football’s death by a thousand cuts continues.
Stupid is what stupid says.

” 12 team playoff has been valued at 1.2 Billion annually up from the 600 Million from the CFP is earning from ESPN”
 

bob5150

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So glad for 12 opportunities to get into the playoff. Now we will be considered, "Dark Horse" every year by any pundit that needs clicks.
 

TheWayITellEm

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There's no fairness in the college game. Cheating & bribing is rewarded. Integrity is punished.

So why the F should I want the same old teams to get a bye??? Anything to make it more difficult for them...I'm in favor of.
 

Redscarlet

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There's no fairness in the college game. Cheating & bribing is rewarded. Integrity is punished.

So why the F should I want the same old teams to get a bye??? Anything to make it more difficult for them...I'm in favor of.
My guess is because the 11 member board doesn’t give a flip of what your opinion is..
 

ChiLoop

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Stupid is what stupid says.

” 12 team playoff has been valued at 1.2 Billion annually up from the 600 Million from the CFP is earning from ESPN”
Frustrating that things always need to be explained to you…

College football is becoming a form of semi-pro league, and this is just yet another step in that direction. I never seen something disliked by so many but still pursued by the powers that be because the money to be made is huge.
 

TheWayITellEm

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My guess is because the 11 member board doesn’t give a flip of what your opinion is..
Oh I'm sure of that. But you & I should be on the same side. Unless Nebraska plans on spending huge, bribing, getting in the gutter...and doing whatever it takes to be in the Top-4. If not...we should both be against a 1st-round bye.
 

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College football’s death by a thousand cuts continues.
Exactly my thoughts as well. We've already seen how a 4-team playoff makes the regular schedule less meaningful (see GA vs Bama in the SEC championship - GA went into the game knowing they could lose and still make the playoffs). Expanding the playoff to 12 teams only magnifies this problem.

One of the things that once made college football so great was that EVERY SINGLE GAME counted. That's no longer the case. We'll now see teams with guaranteed spots in the playoff sitting starters in the final game(s) of the season (when winning or losing doesn't matter).

The world's descent towards Idiocracy continues.
 

Joedaly

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The interesting thing is that ND will never be able to be seeded higher than 5 because you have to be a conference champion for that. Surprised ND would agree to that.
 

HuskerHusaria

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I've been long hoping for an 8 team playoff. 12 is way too bloated and I don't think playoff bye weeks are fair for the college level.

My logic has been to stick the 5 power conference championship winners in for 5 positions of 8. Let 3 other positions go to at-large teams - (which includes your "Group of 5" and independents).

If or when the P5 ends up at 2 or 3 mega-conferences, an 8 team playoff would not be as bloated as a 12 team playoff.
 

Redscarlet

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Oh I'm sure of that. But you & I should be on the same side. Unless Nebraska plans on spending huge, bribing, getting in the gutter...and doing whatever it takes to be in the Top-4. If not...we should both be against a 1st-round bye.
Wasn’t my idea to have 12 team playoff when 8 should be sufficient..

Aren’t you the nut job that wants a 32 team playoff…
 

lunstra11

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The only thing that would make this fair is to move to a 64-team tournament. Wait, no, that's been done and gets debated every year. On a serious note, I like this move...a 12-team playoff is way better than the current format. Think of 12 seeds beating up on 5 seeds...in College Football!
 

TheWayITellEm

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Exactly my thoughts as well. We've already seen how a 4-team playoff makes the regular schedule less meaningful (see GA vs Bama in the SEC championship - GA went into the game knowing they could lose and still make the playoffs). Expanding the playoff to 12 teams only magnifies this problem.

One of the things that once made college football so great was that EVERY SINGLE GAME counted. That's no longer the case. We'll now see teams with guaranteed spots in the playoff sitting starters in the final game(s) of the season (when winning or losing doesn't matter).

The world's descent towards Idiocracy continues.
Regular season less meaningful??? You're talking as if college football is some kind of utopian gentleman's fair-play athletic event. Wake up. This is WAR. This is getting down in the gutter to defeat your enemies by any means necessary. LITERALLY bribing and scamming and doing whatever it takes to win.

I'm for anything that gives Minnesota a better chance in a playoff. And I'm for anything that makes it more difficult for the 'top' scumbags.

I won't support Minnesota bribing and being scumbags and turning college into a joke though. Expanded playoff, yes.
 

redwine65

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There's no fairness in the college game. Cheating & bribing is rewarded. Integrity is punished.

So why the F should I want the same old teams to get a bye??? Anything to make it more difficult for them...I'm in favor of.
I think they want osu and bama to be bi teams, but nd won't go for it, no can do
 

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Another step to turning CFB into minor league football. It is being ruined one step
at a time.
 

SuperBigFan

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They should have went 16 and anyone claiming they would not watch is either lying or not really all that into sports.

Just like March Madness, it isn't about "the games" it is about the event.
 

TruHusker

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Maybe it's been answered but how many regular season games would the mortal teams have? Without seeing how they want to set it up, how many more games for the championship teams? Does anyone anticipate those with high draft status likely bailing out with the additional games?