5 highest ranked conference champs + next 7 highest rated teams
Not a surprise, but it’s now official
Not a surprise, but it’s now official
12 Team Playoff Qualifier Format Approved
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Really did the SEC a solid by making no limits on conference bids and no reserved spot for the highest ranked G5 team. SEC usually starts with 4-6 teams in the preseason top 10 and then of course they all play each other and don’t get properly penalized for their losses. I’m thinking 4-5 SEC teams will be the norm, unfortunately.
I like/liked a 3 team limit per conference. And yes the best conference deserves more bids, but no more than one more beyond the other P5 conference bids. But I don’t think that’s how it will be, I suspect the SEC will get 2-3 more bids over the other P5. It will be excessive and self serving for ESPN.
If you want the playoff to contain the best teams I don't see how you can limit the # of teams from any confetence.....sounds like socialism to do it any other way to me.
applying the 5+7 model over the previous decade, the sec and b10 dominate the field - 73 of the 120 spots (61%). this 12-team setup is going to make college football post season far more interesting for most of the country. it was entering dangerous territory continuing with the 4-team format coupled with opt-out bowls.
sec 38
b10 35
b12 17
acc 14
g5 12
notre dame 4
source: yahoo
sec 38
b10 35
b12 17
acc 14
g5 12
notre dame 4
source: yahoo
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Oh gawd, this has nothing to do or anything like socialism. That gets thrown around when someone wants to poo poo or shame an argument when often there is zero correlation.
Furthermore, to your point… We have no objective way of knowing who is better once we get past the 3 best teams in each conference. The committee, pundits and fans alike have no idea. We just say to ourselves… “Well the SEC likely has the best 1 or 2 teams in country so their 4th and 5th best teams must be the best as well. That’s all anybody is ever doing. So I say we avoid that subjection altogether and only allow 3 per conference. But that’s just my opinion and it’s not going to happen regardless of what I think. And in the end I’m glad they expanded. I like 8 teams personally, but that’s a whole other thing.
So ND has to be in the highest 7 teams to make the playoffs and could likely knock a higher ACC team out..
Really the SEC and BIG. With the two big boys trying to run the show, this is what it is tailored to.
it depends how the p4 champions plus the g5 champion are ranked. notre dame has no preferred position. actually, it's in a bad place because it is not a p4 conference member for football unless the acc defines it differently going forward.
yes. what's tricky is how conferences define their champion. if it's the championship game, then one could have the lesser team in and the better left out, like k-state beating tcu last year: cats in, frogs out. that would not be good albeit tcu's ranking would have had them in last year anyway.
even had iowa beaten michigan in the b10 championship, both would have been in because liberty was ranked #23 way below iowa.
here's the cfp's explanation which is crystal clear:
Under the 12-team playoff format that begins this fall, the four highest-ranked conference champions will be seeded one through four and each will receive a first-round bye, while teams seeded five through 12 will play each other in the first round on the home field of the higher-ranked team. (The team ranked #5 will host #12; team #6 will meet team #11; team #7 will play team #10; and team #8 will meet #9.) The quarterfinals and semifinals will be played in the New Year's Six bowl games, the national championship game will continue to be at a neutral site. No conference will qualify automatically and there will be no limit on the number of participants from a conference.
Under the 12-team playoff format that begins this fall, the four highest-ranked conference champions will be seeded one through four and each will receive a first-round bye, while teams seeded five through 12 will play each other in the first round on the home field of the higher-ranked team. (The team ranked #5 will host #12; team #6 will meet team #11; team #7 will play team #10; and team #8 will meet #9.) The quarterfinals and semifinals will be played in the New Year's Six bowl games, the national championship game will continue to be at a neutral site. No conference will qualify automatically and there will be no limit on the number of participants from a conference.
So much better than an exhibition game between two teams with nothing to play and most likely missing any number of coaches amd players.
Can't wait for the 16 team playoff to get here.
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I think the B1G and SEC should get 4 automatics each. They're the only real power conferences left.
Should be B1G Champ + 3, SEC Champ + 3 and then at large. None of the other conferences need consideration.
Well isn't that a contradiction?? No AQ but conference champions ranked 1-4 with byes. Is THIS ALL conferences or just $ec, b1g acc and b12?
it's possible that the aq could be someone other than the p4 conferences, so no, it's not a contradiction.
Don't you think that the B1G will be in this same boat? I mean, come on, our conference now has Oregon, Washington, USC, PSU, OSU and Michigan. And then it has tier two perennial winning teams like Iowa and Wisconsin. The bottom feeders like Indiana, Maryland, Rutgers are few. Then you have good ol' Nebraska U. Will we join the upper tier, become a second tier team, or stay on the bottom as we have been for 9 years now?
The B1G will be just as good, if not better, than the SEC I think.
I do think the B1G will benefit as well. But I think the SEC will almost always get one or two more teams than the B1G whether it’s justified or not that particular year.
4 seems reasonable for the SEC and B1G. IMO an 8 team playoff with a 3 team limit per conference would’ve been perfect. But 12 makes more money and I’m sure they’ll want 16 next time the contract is negotiated.
this year it would have looked like this. the winner could have easily come out of the first round. proving why the 4-team setup has been a fraud playoff.
FIRST ROUND
No. 12 Liberty at No. 5 Florida State
No. 9 Missouri at No. 8 Oregon
No. 11 Ole Miss at No. 6 Georgia
No. 10 Penn State at No. 7 Ohio State
QUARTERFINALS
Liberty-Florida State winner at No. 4 Alabama
Missouri-Oregon winner at No. 1 Michigan
Ole Miss-Georgia winner at No. 3 Texas
Penn State-Ohio State winner at No. 2 Washington
FIRST ROUND
No. 12 Liberty at No. 5 Florida State
No. 9 Missouri at No. 8 Oregon
No. 11 Ole Miss at No. 6 Georgia
No. 10 Penn State at No. 7 Ohio State
QUARTERFINALS
Liberty-Florida State winner at No. 4 Alabama
Missouri-Oregon winner at No. 1 Michigan
Ole Miss-Georgia winner at No. 3 Texas
Penn State-Ohio State winner at No. 2 Washington
Best G5 does not necessarily get in under these rules. They’re only in if they ranked in the top 12. If the highest ranked G5 champion is ranked say… 15 they won’t be in. IMO, with this system we will rarely see a G5 team get in. It will happen, but I think it will be just as rare as it was for a G5 team to make the 4 team playoff. I think Cincinnati was the only team to do it.
actually, cincinnati would have gotten a bye in 2022 if a 12-team setup. liberty would have qualified this past year.
Would they? IDK how that works? They would’ve been ranked 4th, but they would not have been a P5 champion. I thought the byes went to the 4 highest ranked P5 champions, unless I’m not understanding the rules correctly. Now today, they would get a bye because they’re now in the BIG XII. But when that happened they were in AAC I think.
Under the 12-team playoff format that begins this fall, the four highest-ranked conference champions
that does not say anything about p4 or p5 conference champions.
Under the 12-team playoff format that begins this fall, the four highest-ranked conference champions
that does not say anything about p4 or p5 conference champions.
Interesting, I guess I just read P5 in my head. That being said with all conference expansion most if not all of the teams capable of being a top 4 ranked conference champion are in P5 conferences now. I’m guessing we never see a G5 team sniff the top 4 going forward, but we shall see I guess.
This is wrong
It’s the 5 highest ranked conf champs. Being in the top 12 has nothing to do with it when you’re a conf champ, only when you’re an at large.
With no more PAC 12, a “G5” champ will be in 100% of the time.
That’s a good point. We all say P5 but there’s really only 4 power conferences now with the PAC 12 demise. So yeah, a G5 should make the tournament most years. My brain hasn’t accepted that there are only 4 power conferences now.
Under the 12-team playoff format that begins this fall, the four highest-ranked conference champions
that does not say anything about p4 or p5 conference champions.
Probably disregard my prior response to this. I was still operating with 5 power conferences which would make it very difficult for G5 teams. But there’s only 4 power conferences now. Derp
Well the B1G, SEC, ACC and Big12 most likely will always be the 4 highest ranked conference champion's year in and year out..Under the 12-team playoff format that begins this fall, the four highest-ranked conference champions
that does not say anything about p4 or p5 conference champions.