1000 calls over 5 years

Dogariffic

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If recruit(s) were under 18 wouldn't that be endangerment? Like, felonious? Like, Parchman bad?
In my opinion yes!
Also consider the implications of human trafficking by bringing a prostitute across state lines from
Memphis to Mississippi....
Makes you think!!
 

shotgunDawg

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Ok.... if they are for cruits .... what about the ones that signed with MSU that they were recruiting...like Leo and Simmons .... think they had them ?

Maybe. It's irrelevant.

Recruits accept benefits from other schools all the time only to sign with the school they really want to go to.
 

Drebin

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It's just interesting to watch it all unfold. If he made that many calls, it's obvious that it wasn't all for him. I don't think Tiger Woods could keep that pace.

But if Freeze was doing this for recruiting purposes, that would mean that a whole lot of people would have been in on his fraud with him. It would mean that some number of recruits, while listening to the christian music and seeing the bible verses being tweeted, would know that he was hooking them up with trim. It would mean that a coaching staff - who listened to his preachiness all the time - would know that he was a scumbag. It would mean that the administration knew what kind of man he was when they stood behind him in their initial NOA response. It would have to be a very carefully organized cover up, and with coaching turnover, you would expect that it wouldn't be a secret for long.

I mean, Ole Miss has proven to have handled this thing worse than any school in history, thereby cementing their admin as one of the dumbest to ever grace an institution of higher learning, but it's still too much of a stretch for me to believe that they were all in on the Freeze Fraud and colluding with him. That's some serious black helicopter stuff.

Stranger things have happened, though. At least it has helped make the dog days of summer a lot more interesting.
 
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i would think human trafficking would involve forcing someone to travel against their will... hookers out to make some bank would willingly travel on their own or be glad to hitch a ride
 

wdawg44

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Maybe his wife thought he only brought home 3 mil a year. That way he could hide the 1.5 mil (1000 calls) he was spending on 1,500 a night poon. Staggering tang numbers
 

BoDawg.sixpack

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If that number is accurate

Then the current theories of who they were for are insufficient. I'll stop there.
 

BulldogBlitz

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Is that "The Blind Side Part Deux"?
 

The Fatboy

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But if Freeze was doing this for recruiting purposes, that would mean that a whole lot of people would have been in on his fraud with him. It would mean that some number of recruits, while listening to the christian music and seeing the bible verses being tweeted, would know that he was hooking them up with trim. It would mean that a coaching staff - who listened to his preachiness all the time - would know that he was a scumbag. It would mean that the administration knew what kind of man he was when they stood behind him in their initial NOA response. It would have to be a very carefully organized cover up, and with coaching turnover, you would expect that it wouldn't be a secret for long.

I mean, Ole Miss has proven to have handled this thing worse than any school in history, thereby cementing their admin as one of the dumbest to ever grace an institution of higher learning, but it's still too much of a stretch for me to believe that they were all in on the Freeze Fraud and colluding with him. That's some serious black helicopter stuff.

This is exactly why I dont believe they were buying tang for the recruits. Its too hard to keep a secret.
 

tatedog

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It's just interesting to watch it all unfold. If he made that many calls, it's obvious that it wasn't all for him. I don't think Tiger Woods could keep that pace.

But if Freeze was doing this for recruiting purposes, that would mean that a whole lot of people would have been in on his fraud with him. It would mean that some number of recruits, while listening to the christian music and seeing the bible verses being tweeted, would know that he was hooking them up with trim. It would mean that a coaching staff - who listened to his preachiness all the time - would know that he was a scumbag. It would mean that the administration knew what kind of man he was when they stood behind him in their initial NOA response. It would have to be a very carefully organized cover up, and with coaching turnover, you would expect that it wouldn't be a secret for long.

I mean, Ole Miss has proven to have handled this thing worse than any school in history, thereby cementing their admin as one of the dumbest to ever grace an institution of higher learning, but it's still too much of a stretch for me to believe that they were all in on the Freeze Fraud and colluding with him. That's some serious black helicopter stuff.

Stranger things have happened, though. At least it has helped make the dog days of summer a lot more interesting.

Your post reflects an occam's razor point of view and I wouldn't be shocked to find that the majority of what you said is actually truth. However, I would like to make a couple of points that are somewhere in between the extreme possibilities.

There is actually no reason whatsoever that recruits would have to know that they were being hooked up (no pun intended) with ladies. Take the Analesa Presley twitter account for reference here. Faking the persona of an adoring female is not beyond their range of deceit. Would it be so hard to pay a lovely young escort to spend some time with a recruit and oh by the way mention how awesome Ole Miss is and how wonderful her years in Oxford were? How would they know the girl was a paid escort? Ok surely an intelligent person would have suspicions raised, but are these recruits all that floored when a young lady wants to spend some time with them? It's not like they necessarily had to be told, "show up at this address in room 102 at 4pm for your blowjob."

As far as the administration's knowledge, I've always been of the opinion that once the previous administration got the heave ho, the new boys were told in no uncertain terms to turn a blind eye to any compliance issue. Just reading through the NCAA's response to Ole Miss' answer reveals that they had no qualms about lying to their own compliance office. Either the compliance office was full of total idiots, or they simply took everything on blind faith with no checking. My guess is the latter.
 

Drebin

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Your post reflects an occam's razor point of view and I wouldn't be shocked to find that the majority of what you said is actually truth. However, I would like to make a couple of points that are somewhere in between the extreme possibilities.

There is actually no reason whatsoever that recruits would have to know that they were being hooked up (no pun intended) with ladies. Take the Analesa Presley twitter account for reference here. Faking the persona of an adoring female is not beyond their range of deceit. Would it be so hard to pay a lovely young escort to spend some time with a recruit and oh by the way mention how awesome Ole Miss is and how wonderful her years in Oxford were? How would they know the girl was a paid escort? Ok surely an intelligent person would have suspicions raised, but are these recruits all that floored when a young lady wants to spend some time with them? It's not like they necessarily had to be told, "show up at this address in room 102 at 4pm for your blowjob."

As far as the administration's knowledge, I've always been of the opinion that once the previous administration got the heave ho, the new boys were told in no uncertain terms to turn a blind eye to any compliance issue. Just reading through the NCAA's response to Ole Miss' answer reveals that they had no qualms about lying to their own compliance office. Either the compliance office was full of total idiots, or they simply took everything on blind faith with no checking. My guess is the latter.

You make valid points that I can't really argue. I agree that the recruits didn't have to know the girls were for them. I agree that there was an institutional effort to skirt compliance. Can you imagine being an ole miss fan right now? Jeez, what a mess.
 
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