It's the truth. I wish it wasn't. I live in rual county that has a somewhat large outbreak. I've lived here for a large part of my life and have a lot of family here. The old saying that everybody knows everybody isn't really true, but there is a reason for the saying.
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I have often thought the “Nursing Home” is a dinosaur and needs to go to more of a residence system with multi-unit housing of say 6 residents are cared for in each setting with a central Multiple room unit for medical staff to stay on site, like Nurse Practitioner, A PNA, and a dietary person could reside. They would be dedicated to the single life for a term and then rotate out like college students in apartments and dorms do.
We have to figure out how to get a handle on stopping the spread at the LTC facilities.... that should be priority #1...if you can do that, you have more than half the battle won....
But he wasnt tagged as a Covid death. The coroner concluded its a homicide.
yo homes...where do you think they get the data to report? It's how it's coded on the medical records ...medical records being an official thing and all.
If the hospital reported the death as Covid related and the NY Times went by what the hospital reported, how is that a lie by the NY Times? Plus, the Times corrected its article as soon as it was told that the hospital had misreported. Yours is a thoroughly ridiculous attack on the press.
Right. This was established by the HITECH act and the compliance side of it used to be called Meaningful Use and is now called Promoting Interoperability. Reporting to state registries is one of several metrics under this. It's very messy for many different reasons. As someone who has built the interfaces between EMRs and state registries, the discrepancies aren't surprising at all.
This is exactly what I’ve been saying for weeks about the fudging of numbers. Are there true COVID patients being admitted to hospitals and ICU And dying? Of course there is! But my point to the OP was there are so many cases of COVID and deaths from COVID because the language allows for them to be presumed to have COVID!
Yes it’s contagious, yes it can be serious and yes it can be deadly. But there is a lot of fraud and unethical behavior going on to capitalize on this.
Guys, let's keep our heads here. First of all, this is L4Dawg who is the biggest promoter of COVID that there is. Second, 171 in ICU. That's like 10 more than we've been seeing, even if it's the highest. Chill out.
This whole thing is just ridiculous, and gets sillier every day.
This whole thing is just ridiculous, and gets sillier every day.
I have read we can just "Isolate those people in LTC" and everyone else should be fine, and they will be safe.
Easy Peasy.
So, just isolate those in LTC, don't let anyone in.
I don't know a single person that has had the virus, been hospitalized due to the virus, or died from the virus.
Not one.
Me either, but since reopening started the deaths here in Madison County (AL) have increased from 4 to 5. The number of people in ICU and/or on vents have increased also, but the numbers are still really low.
Yesterday I talked to one of my customers who had it.... late 50’s, overweight and likes his whiskey ... he had a low grade fever and sore throat for 4 days... He recommended Fireball....
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The CDC did release guidelines on reporting of COVID-19 deaths, which most states are following, but I’m not sure what’s being done on hospitalization data.
The problem I see right now is that this thing is still spreading in the summer. Hanging around. When it gets cool again, cases will spike. There's no way around it.
One of the interesting things I read a while back was an article about why the flu is bad in the winter and basically goes away in the summer. Outside of the lower transmission because of vaccine and antibodies, less crowding, etc... There were 2 things that jumped out.
1: Low relative humidity. There is less moisture in the air the lower the temperature and the droplets hang around airborne for a much longer period of time. We have heard this before, but there was a study that basically showed the flu virus breakouts in various states charted along with relative humidity and it was dead on that cases rise when the drops.
2: Cold air restricts the blood vessels in your nose and can inhibit your body's ability to activate white blood cells in the area to stop the viruses before they can even get going. Also the low RH in cold air dries out the mucous membranes. This can lead to cracking and make it easier for viruses to sneak through. So if you're mucus membranes are compromised at your white blood cells are lower, it's going to be easier for a lot more of the virus to invade and make the sickness more severe.
That second one ties into the nursing home. They keep those damn things so cold there is no way the RH can be high. And a lot of people are on CPAP, oxygen, other breathing assistance devices that would have to dry out your membranes...
I will see if I can find the links and attach below.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20151016-the-real-reason-germs-spread-in-the-winter
https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1000316
One of the interesting things I read a while back was an article about why the flu is bad in the winter and basically goes away in the summer. Outside of the lower transmission because of vaccine and antibodies, less crowding, etc... There were 2 things that jumped out.
1: Low relative humidity. There is less moisture in the air the lower the temperature and the droplets hang around airborne for a much longer period of time. We have heard this before, but there was a study that basically showed the flu virus breakouts in various states charted along with relative humidity and it was dead on that cases rise when the drops.
2: Cold air restricts the blood vessels in your nose and can inhibit your body's ability to activate white blood cells in the area to stop the viruses before they can even get going. Also the low RH in cold air dries out the mucous membranes. This can lead to cracking and make it easier for viruses to sneak through. So if you're mucus membranes are compromised at your white blood cells are lower, it's going to be easier for a lot more of the virus to invade and make the sickness more severe.
That second one ties into the nursing home. They keep those damn things so cold there is no way the RH can be high. And a lot of people are on CPAP, oxygen, other breathing assistance devices that would have to dry out your membranes...
I will see if I can find the links and attach below.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20151016-the-real-reason-germs-spread-in-the-winter
https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1000316
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I think that it's probably a good thing that it's spreading now. Obviously the best thing would be for it to disappear, but assuming that's not going to happen, it will be better if it is working through the population relatively slowly over the summer so that we don't enter the cold and flu season stillhaving 99% of the population unexposed when conditions are more favorable to an outbreak. Still spreading fairly slowly, so we probably won't have a lot of people who have had it by cold and flu season, but every little bit will help.
We have a winner. ^^^^
Odds are the virus just doesn’t go away in the near term, but does continue to weaken.
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/06/04/upmc-gives-update-on-coronavirus/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...potency-top-italian-doctor-says-idUSKBN2370OQ
It will continue to spread, especially in those places that have had less exposure, albeit most likely a weaker version if the above trend continues.
Hopefully the AstraZeneca vaccine does show up in September, but sans that, the areas that have had built up the herd immunity will be the areas that do not see much of a second wave.
Well put and I agree.... I'm like you, I don't know if enough people will get it to make a big dent for the Fall, but maybe it will. I think what I was getting at is if social distancing doesn't work during the summer, it definitely won't work in the fall/winter unless we really change behavior.
I may be wrong but I think it's pretty much a separate system. Does that make sense, who knows. There are so many applicable laws that it's a maze to try and negotiate. That is a lot of the problem right there.
I would guess it is more than that. Consider many people apparently never get symptoms, or they are so mild that they never get (got) tested, there are probably a lot of people waking around with the antibodies now.
https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/c...80-per-cent-of-cases-cruise-ship-study-finds/
So how do we do it? Do you have a magic bullet that nobody has come up with? That has been priority #1 for a while now. We have some big outbreaks here and they happened after the total lockdowns in them.
It's more, but not much more unless you are talking about NYC, LA County, or some of the other real hot spots. Estimates that I have seen from Mississippi are around 1-2% of the population.
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Most interesting thing to me about this pandemic. It is primarily revealing risk tolerance. For the most part, the people I know who are generally tentative in their approach to all risks in life are on the way more cautious, to scared to death scale, while other friends of mine who rarely even lock their doors aren't the least bit concerned about it. The reality of what COVID has done/is doing/will do is lost on both sides (also difficult to come by because of crappy data, bad reporting and electioneering). However, the passion and fervor with which people will defend their position is similar. I find it very interesting.
I don't think you can really apply a factor to it without statistically significant antibodies studies. Learning more and more that it was already a big deal in China late last year.
You do know those reports have NO data to back them up,right? Hopefully it's true but there is no real evidence yet that it is. You have NO idea how much I hope it's true. I even more wanted the transmission with out symptoms is very rare to be true even more, but the data didn't support that and everyone who looked at the data including the person who made the statement knew it. There is also no data yet to support that heard immunity is even possible with this. We have no idea if you get immunity for any length of time, if at all. Logic tells you we do, but it's a thought exercise at the moment. We certainly have no idea how long it lasts. It will have to last for a year or more for it to work.
Not always. I was routinely called a Nazi by liberals on a certain defunct political board. I'm as conservative as it gets. REAL TALK.
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