Hank or Heck?
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Ok but it doesn't really help if he just stands and holds the ball.. 17 carries for 16 yards isn't exactly screaming running threat. My point remains about KF, though. He pretty clearly prefers the pocket QBs.
I'm shocked that so many Hawk fans think there is anything difficult about this decision.
Heck is QB1.
Heck is QB1.
That Washington team is a big ten bottom feeder, we really didn’t learn much about Heck other than he can hit open receivers when under zero pressure. We’ve seen 2 games where he didn’t do that though.
They are both pretty average if we’re being honest.
Accurate passes.
Little to no indecisiveness.
Hank has gotten rid of the ball faster in every game they’ve both played. He’s also been more accurate through the season so what’s your point? Hank would have put up the exact same performance against that team.
It’s pretty obvious you’ve made your decision and you won’t accept any response that isn’t in agreement with you so I guess I’ll drop it.
And maybe the team playing so well, knowing Heck was their QB this game, was not a coincidence?
Yeah Washington's D was bad.
But still, there was nothing about Heck's performance that screamed "average" to me.
Trying to figure out what was average about Heck's performance, to you.
If Hank does indeed get the ball out faster, it's because he doesn't scan the whole field, even when he has time to do so.
For you contrarians, numbers don't lie.
Score 27 in a half against a P4 team. Why are you making me humiliate you ??!!
I remember on that last drive he missed a wide open diaz for an easy touchdown. He took advantage of his second chance. That was nice. I thick hecklinski would have made that diaz touchdown throw.
Hecks ball was right on the money all day. That matters. Even his incompletions weren't inaccurate, they were hitting hands and put in places away from the defender. His speed and agility and processing time are better than Brown. He is not worlds better than Brown but he's better. Browns performance vs OSU made me mad, it came off as scared and flaccid after a week of buildup. Maybe he was hurt, maybe not, but he wasn't competitive.
Heck is the better gamer, and he’s willing to take risks all game to push the ball downfield- to play to win. Hank only does that when he’s forced to, i.e. Michigan. Can’t rely on that mentality and expect to consistently win the big games.
Super. I googled it and it says (as of Aug 2026) the big house holds 107, 601, (Its the largest stadium in the USA, and third largest in the world), Like everything the talking heads say during games is gospel? For the record they list Michigans AVERAGE attend for the 2025 as 110, 824, so they evidently have around 3000 SRO tickets. SO.......
Not sure. What I do know is this offense based off play action looks TOTALLY different when you can run the ball. The first 6 games tell us exactly that.
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And clearly you spend most of your time talking out your backside.........Maybe learn to walk backwards?
Three TDs to three guys that didn't have anyone within 10 yds of them. Boy he REALLY had to zip those in there under pressure didn't he. It was a function of the plays called by Lester, and pounding them in the run game AND WAshingtons DB's were crap. I'm fine with Heck, but your pure nonsense that there's ANY correlation to the way the TEAM played against OSU, (and a 10x better defense) then what we saw last night is stupifying.
Good Lord. Someone here able to look beyond the nose on their face........Well done sir..
Hmm. Maybe because our RB1 had a career high 204 yds? And they were off balance and their DB's were running themselves out of coverage all night.
while heck looked good against washington things will likely get harder for him now that there is tape for DCs to prep. also a possible reason for why the washington qb2 was so effective against us. and why raiola’s first game for O went so well before combusting in the next game.
He made quite a few throws where guys didn't have separation, like the one to Diaz that got reviewed. It's also important that he SEE the wide open receivers, which he did every time. How many times have we seen QBs stare down one guy and miss the wide open guy breaking away downfield? A lot. It looks easier than it is.
Are you sure? We have 66yr olds on here who say they can do what Heck does.
Of course they also believe Rosie O'Donnel has talent, so ...
Whatever. Your SO, made it seem like I posted something incorrect and YOU corrected my mistake. Try looking up the facts, or don't correct people when your wrong.Back atcha ...
I don't know just seems like it has happened more often than not, regardless of who the current oc is. I hope it doesn't and he actually keeps improving.
SEEMS, is a great point. ALOT of the stuff that gets posted here is certainly part of that. The ongoing narratives that Banks and Beathard should have started earlier is a good place to start. Banks came in from a Juco where he started as a WR. Then played QB. His first year at Iowa he was RAW. Not only had he never played a P4 game, he'd NEVER played in a D1 football game. Showed some athletisism in his spot duty, so peoples memory is he should have been the starter, even though all the staff thought he wasn't ready for the role as a starting D1 QB. I guessing the coaches had a better idea of where he was than the fans. And yet that narrative lives on here 24 years later. CJB was kind of a loose cannon initially, (he's even alluded to that), and probably a bit more out of control then the staff like. Add to that Ruddock was better than many gave him credit for. What's always interesting is that its easy to see the end result, and look back later and say "oh. that guy should have been the guy" without understanding that maybe there were too many rough edges on that guy initially. This deals with the other false narrative that's on here much of the time, that guys don't get better as QB's at Iowa. Both Banks and Beathard certainly became better QB's over their time at Iowa, and they aren't the only ones. Clearly BOTH Brown and Heck are better QB's then they were when they got to Iowa.
Right now it's 149 to 7. Fair or not, I feel like we all know who one of the 7 would be and it is the one that matters.
I went back and watched. There were 2 throws to guys without a ton of separation. That Diaz throw and the back shoulder to Vander Zee. There was also Vander Zee on an out and up on the right sideline. He threw the ball before he made his cut up, he was open when he caught it but he was thrown open by Heck so he gets credit.
The other 11 completions were to wide open WRs where he was under 0 pressure and had a ton of time to throw.
I’m not anointing Heck off that game. IMO if he was actually better he would have proven that early in the season. Instead he struggled against NIU and UNI. Heck’s gonna have to do that against a team that’s actually going to make a bowl game for me to really believe in him.
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