So its fair to say ALL rankings in illinois is totally based on ccl blue? Bc the latest max prep state rankings are dumb
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Massey has ESL as 1, MC 2, Loyola 3, LWE 4 and Rice 5. MaxPreps Loyola 1, MC 5
The good thing about that is the question as to who is better could be decided on the field in the 7A playoffs. As an objective observer, the possible playoff matchup of ESL/BR got a whole lot more interesting after Rice’s win over MC.
I'm not sure I understand your question, but the CCL Blue is generally accepted to contain three of the top five teams in the state, so it makes sense that it's a significant ranking factor.
On this board yes, considering most posters are fans of the Blue.
I don't think it's fair to chalk it up to a popularity contest. Teams currently in the Blue have won the past four championships in both 7A and 8A.
OK, but theoretically, classes 7 and 8 are the two best classes.
Theres people here that dont buy that. Some think they get better as they get smaller.
If you are suggesting that LA, BR and MC do not belong in the top 5, then which ones do not belong and where would you place them?
The question isn't if they belong in the top 5 or 10. They are DEFINITELY not 1,2 and 3! That is the point of the post. One could be considered top three but on the field results suggest the other two can not.
Without seeing all the teams, its impossible for me to determine if MC and BR with 2 losses are better than ALL other teams in the state besides the teams that beat them.
I've seen Huntly so I can say both are better than them but that is where the bucks stop for me.
Need I remind you that prior to season, there was no question by some that MC would beat ESL and BR would clock LWE. Neither happened which suggest that LA, BR and MC are NOT the best three teams in the state. Top 10 yes, top 5 debatable. Top 3 ABSOLUTELY not at this point.
All that being said, trophies matter the most so there is a LOT of football left to be played.
And when the algorithm assumes they are the best, everything gets based on them. So in the top 5 it all becomes incestuous as if there couldnt be a team between them. And subsequent rankings end up being based on the faulty initial rankings. Then the conference gets a boost because they all play each other.
@jha618 this is why the algorithm is biased and doesn't work for seeding.
Same thing with people ranking/seeding.
@jha618 this is why the algorithm is biased and doesn't work for seeding.
Same thing with people ranking/seeding.
You have continued to avoid my question. Do you believe Brother Rice is closer to deserving a #1 seed in the 7a playoffs or a #14 seed?
Doesn't the current IHSA system also result in inaccurate rankings/seedings based on the faulty assumption that all wins are created equal?
This a football forum what else should we be discussing
Not with 2 losses. You want a biased ranking to be the seeding. And youre only concerned with 1 seed and completely ignore all the rest of the teams. You dont care if they rank the #29 team "correctly".
The current system is always 100% correct unless they have to go to a coin flip tie breaker. And also the subjective N/S dividing line may cause some incorrectness.
Never said don’t discuss it, just that people care to much about them.This a football forum what else should we be discussing
Lol nice try. I see with all those words you still managed to avoid answering my question for about the 4th time now. I guess its alot easier for you to come up with a straw man argument than actually answer fairly basic questions.
I answered your question. The current system seeds them correctly. Your proposed system seeds them incorrectly.
The games, X's and O's, schedules, kids performances, etc. It's high school football the rankings literally mean nothing. The goal is to win a state title, what a schools ranking is has zero bearing on that.
1. No, you didnt answer my question regarding BR.
2. You can't just make up your own definition of correctly
3. I haven't proposed any system.
Ill let you continue arguing with yourself though because you clearly are having a difficult time reading or comprehending what im saying.
Your question has no answer except that the current system seeds them accurately. Not sure why this is difficult for you to understand other than you dont understand football. Where did you have Fenwick seeded last year with your system?
It's still all a matter of opinion regardless of on the field results.
What if someone has the opinion after watching BR and LWE play that BR would beat LWE 9 times out of 10? I'm not saying I have that opinion, but what if I did? Do I rank BR ahead of LWE based on that? Or do I rank LWE ahead of BR because of that one single game?
Your questions have been answered. You just dont like the answer. Then you saw that your "teams should be seeded based on how I like them" system doesnt work, then ducked out.
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