BGJ (Big Game James) replaced with DMC (Door Matt Campbell)
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Sadly this isn't just a PSU problem, go on any message board or talk to fans of various teams across the country and most are bat s**t crazy. I always told my Bama buddies that they would turn on Saban the first year he went 9-3, lol.
lol the UCLA loss last year was one of the worse losses in Penn State football history if not the worst. Especially with the talent difference across the board and UCLA fired all coaches after losing to three Ivy League quality teams. Follow that up with home loss to northwestern.
The issue last season was expectations, many had PSU #1 in the country coming into the season and the coach himself said this was the most talented team he's ever had, throw in issues in big games over the yrs and trouble with your boss (AD) and you get the decision(Firing) you get. If MC struggles in yr one, so be it, it's yr one, not 12.
Probably more than you and me think.
I know they said Becht was pretty sought after in the portal.
"But, but but.... IOWA STATE BEAT IOWA!!!!! Dammit!!!!!"
And Matt Campbell had every team in the NFL courting him!
Oregon, Indiana, OSU, ND??? Or Rutgres, Purdue, NW??Probably more than you and me think.
I know they said Becht was pretty sought after in the portal.
Got me. just going off of what I pay for and read.
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Absolutely right on the money. That ucla loss was just terrible.
Hell Neuheisal didn’t even call half the plays because he didn’t know how to work the headset. lol. Franklin though standing there with his arms crossed. lol.
The thing about that Northwestern game last year was the lack of discipline especially on defense.. There were several personal foul penalties in the first half on 3rd down that extended NW drives that they eventually scored. The defense had them stopped and committed the penalties. Kept NW in the game with the subsequent results.
Why does anyone care if Pitt beats VT. Does that solve the problems with PSU football? Franklin's won 4 games. How many did VT win last year? If Campbell gets to 8 wins will the BWICAC celebrate.
I don't think the former AD at VT fired Pry and promised excellence at the highest level.
As for being coached terribly are you indicting Franklin or Smith, because Terry was the coach for 6 games.
If Franklin loses every game at VT, does that make Campbell a great coach?
worst fanbase? we're at least in the running
Between his VT contract and PSU buyout, Franklin will be guaranteed an average of 10 million per year for the next 5 years. Imagine how much he'd be making if he knew as much as some of us?
A lot of truth. But consider this. 2026 is a schedule which allows PSU to avoid Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon and Iowa. Every conference team on PSU'S schedule will have 3 losses and If PSU beats them at least 4. This opportunity will never come again. 2027 and 28 schedule is n actual Big 10 schedule and recruiting isn't improving. How long will PSU wait for results better than under Franklin?
Thank you for your input Mrs Franklin but your son deserved to be sh$$ canned. And sh$$ canned earlier than he was as in after the 2021 season. What kind of coach does not have the second string QB even remotely prepared to play??
A valid opinion. We are only less than a week from tales of impact players brought from ISU who could play anywhere and as evidence their rivalry wins vs Iowa. Matt Campbell was hailed as a coaching savant that was a better human, a better talent evaluator, fashioned brief but more productive practices, wore the right color shoe laces, made nothing but brilliant in game decisions and didn't need to recruit elite talent because he saw promise where no one else in America could and no matter because of this coaching staff's unparalleled ability to "coach em up!" After the defeat of mighty Marshall we memorialized this momentous victory with a "The play the defines the Matt Campbell era," thread. Anyone who disagreed could not and could never have been a PSU football fan. On ignore you go!
This is over reaction central. But chin up, if PSU should administer a decisive defeat of Northwestern, we'll be back in the saddle and the faithful will assert that PSU simply tripped and it's trajectory is Indiana like.
That's a little dramatic Marshall , but funny. Most relatively sane people, which excludes most of us, didn't have National Championship hopes. Why? The depletion of the roster and totally lost recruiting class. That was a disaster of epic proportions. It was handled poorly. I do agree with your assessment for the future. Matt Campbell must show some forward direction in the program to entice kids, but we need the NIL to bring it to fuitiuon. This is where are beloved AD comes into play, which is a concern of its own. I like Matt Campbell. I think he is genuine. I hope this can translate to positive results on the field. I know hope is not a game plan, but Campbell's past history may give him a chance to succeed and make us competitive. Franklin had us competive, but he was like Sisyfiss(spelling). He would almost get the team to the top, but fail as the rock would tumble to the bottom. Every coach and team makes mistakes. The coach and team that lost madet the last mistake. It typically is a collaborative effort.A valid opinion. We are only less than a week from tales of impact players brought from ISU who could play anywhere and as evidence their rivalry wins vs Iowa. Matt Campbell was hailed as a coaching savant that was a better human, a better talent evaluator, fashioned brief but more productive practices, wore the right color shoe laces, made nothing but brilliant in game decisions and didn't need to recruit elite talent because he saw promise where no one else in America could and no matter because of this coaching staff's unparalleled ability to "coach em up!" After the defeat of mighty Marshall we memorialized this momentous victory with a "The play the defines the Matt Campbell era," thread. Anyone who disagreed could not and could never have been a PSU football fan. On ignore you go!
This is over reaction central. But chin up, if PSU should administer a decisive defeat of Northwestern, we'll be back in the saddle and the faithful will assert that PSU simply tripped and it's trajectory is Indiana like.
Fair enough, I also think that by observation from a distance, Matt Campbell seems to be a nice guy. That means nothing in terms of his charge to do better than Franklin.
This forum has been drenched with Matt Campbell worship since he came on board. I've merely opposed that hero worship and suggested that nothing in his career suggests he is the second coming of Joe Paterno. He's a veteran coach who is moving up in class after a decade of relative success at a difficult job at Iowa State. In terms of PR he seems to be doing all the right things. If he directs PSU to victory this Friday his halo will reappear. As for the recruiting mess and the late hire.....its on Kraft, He openly mocked Franklin's teams calling them soft(not something you do as an AD in public) and labeled the same tag on those who were committed to the 2026 class. He stiff armed parents who were concerned about their sons (as he played Chesney) and the status of those offers at PSU. IMO, he is the one responsible for the NIL mess and the roster that is lacking star talent (as well as the 6th or 7th rated recruiting class (2027) in the conference. Parents of prospects communicate with one another. It will take some time for them to forget how the 2026 class was left to twist in the wind.
To be clear, I didn't have NC hopes for this year. However, given the schedule 10 or 11 wins seemed attainable. Even that would likely place PSU as the 5th best team in the conference.
I try to be pragmatic about any coach's first year. I think it is difficult to go from one conference to another, getting comfortable, etc etc. Cael Sanderson, Cignetti are exceptions. I believe it was year 3 when Saban started to hit his stride at Alabama. Utah under Wittingham blew them out in a bowl game. The rest is history. Let us see if Campbell and team can put that game behind them, learn from it, and play harder and improve to the point where they can win the game. Each week is different, each game is different.
If Campbell wins 8 games, we will hang him in effigy here. The only way you avoid a BWICAC penalty is to go 16-0 and win every game by 40 points but we still get to complain about media availability at practices, the atrocious stadium audio/music and gameday traffic. Those three are sacrosanct. Now, if you go 15-1, we talk about the 1, not the 15, talk about 2 and not 14 and so on.
Got it! Dems are the rules.
Bob. I thought I would put my PSU education to work and pull out a really big world to impress youse guys.
No third grade humor here even though that maybe our true level. I meant to say word.
This year without Franklin would have been the same. It was always going to be a rebuilding year.
You're overselling Franklin. He almost never won 11 regular season games. Bowl games are a joke at this point and his 2 playoff wins were Boise and SMU.
Let's be real. He wasn't fired because of 2 games...he was fired because he got everything he asked for and the team imploded. He lost them.
“did more that (sic) anyone in the history of PSU football to reach our ceiling.”
Are you insane?
A quite apropos album cover, considering we have played like piss the past 2 weeks.
If Rocco tried to piss on that stationary target, he'd either piss wide of target or his stream would be deflected by his zipper.
In light of our NIL situation, and in light of this coaching staff’s approach to talent evaluation and recruiting process, I’m not entirely sure where the big turnaround will come from for this program. If you listen to what Campbell says, any major turnaround won’t likely come from the portal—which I’m fine with, but you need more victories on the recruiting trail with 4-star prospects.
An issue is that Campbell doesn’t have the resume to attract top talent. He may be a great coach, but he hasn’t won enough and hasn’t won on a big stage. This season could have, should have helped him. He needs the wins. I don’t know that he has the charisma of a Franklin to help with recruiting.
There are many times I checked into this forum after a loss or sometimes when PSU missed on a blue chip recruit and wrote, "the sky is falling." Well, I'm not being sarcastic this time. The sky is falling. 7-5 at best and 6-6 more likely, this is far worse than anyone could imagine. Pat Kraft must be held responsible. It's now clear that the man for this job was Bob Chesney.
I sure am glad that we celebrated bringing big run stopping DTs in the portal. Northwestern RBs would still be running untouched if not for them.
Tengwall shot his mouth off all summer about how shorter practices and coaches taking player input was proof of winning culture..
Perhaps longer practices could have helped? LOL
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