Greg 2.0 never recovered from the timeout disaster vs Illinois

bigmatt718 · Thursday at 2:03 PM

Wagram97 said:
That whole season was the beginning of the end. But what made that play worse, was his post game comments. I expected him to come up talking about how it was his fault, he made the call but really should have allowed the kick giving the context. Not get on his knees begging for forgiveness but maybe a little bit apologetic. Instead he was just nope, you make the call, that's it, not going to second guess it then went into some bizzare coach speak to defend it.

At that point we should all have been like, hmm..., maybe Schiano has lost it and is no longer up to the challenge. Look, as someone getting older, get it, things change, time marches on and it impacts you. Clearly it has impacted Schiano.

That was Schiano's "This chicanery" moment from Chuck in Better Call Saul where any sane fan knew he lost his ability to rationally coach. I firmly believe if Zinn/Tate were in power at the time that Schiano would've been handed his retirement package the next day and we would've played Sparty in the snow and the bowl game in Phoenix vs K-State with Joe H as interim.

Caliknight · Thursday at 2:06 PM

RU0917 said:
Think this might be referring to a play from the 2003 game, which was significantly more competitive - they hit us for an 83-yard TD right at the end of the 1st half when it was still a one-score game. According to Rutgers' own recap, "West Virginia appeared to catch Rutgers off guard." That 2003 season was a big improvement overall, but an inexcusable breakdown prevented a chance at it being a bigger step up. Not a bad microcosm of the whole GS experience.

“We aren’t in the business of tricking people”. Unfortunately for Greggo not everyone has his mindset.

Guy watched Rocky too many times. That’s how coaches.

bigmatt718 · Thursday at 2:10 PM

Caliknight said:
“We aren’t in the business of tricking people”. Unfortunately for Greggo not everyone has his mindset.

Guy watched Rocky too many times. That’s how coaches.

Caveman football. Plain and simple. That works in the 1980s, not in 2026 where coaches need to actually be cerebral and strategic to win games.

Caliknight · Thursday at 2:10 PM

Wagram97 said:
That whole season was the beginning of the end. But what made that play worse, was his post game comments. I expected him to come up talking about how it was his fault, he made the call but really should have allowed the kick giving the context. Not get on his knees begging for forgiveness but maybe a little bit apologetic. Instead he was just nope, you make the call, that's it, not going to second guess it then went into some bizzare coach speak to defend it.

At that point we should all have been like, hmm..., maybe Schiano has lost it and is no longer up to the challenge. Look, as someone getting older, get it, things change, time marches on and it impacts you. Clearly it has impacted Schiano.

Was the true beginning of the end. If you were a player in the locker room, it was then you knew for certain, your head coach is a moron who will actively lose games for you. His defense of it was just pathetic. “I’ve done it both ways in the past”. As if that made it ok calling TO to ice the kicker only after they got a free attempt to see how woefully short it was and immediately run out the offense. He grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory that day. Really was the end of 2.0.

Steve91562 · Thursday at 2:14 PM

He made more sense in the pre-NIL era in which he was hired.

Pils86 · Thursday at 5:03 PM

He started winning in year five when Ray fell into his lap and the ACC started picking off teams. His last season looks good at 9-4 but the best team we played was No 24 WVU. He was good motivator and improved the program but has never been a top tier coach, and he is way out of his league in the B10.

RU0917 · Thursday at 5:10 PM

bigmatt718 said:
He lost me for good bringing that dip **** back as DC.

I didn't like the Smith hire, especially after the endless search that led up to it, but I figured he would at least be okay. He was DC for a year under Elko at Duke and that team was pretty good. Of course, Duke didn't keep him around after that season, which wasn't a great sign. Looking back, Joe H. and Corey Hetherman leaving was really the beginning of the end for GS 2.0.

Knight Shift · Thursday at 7:40 PM

Knight Shift said:
Talent evaluation matters the most, which GS has historically been terrible at with QBs. Facts are AK came running to KC because he got passed over at Minnesota. It worked out for Rutgers and Athan. Win-win.

Quoting myself, but will not refer to myself in the third person.

Watching Syracuse and Pitt. Fran Brown has had two great QBs in only 3 seasons. Kyle McCord and now Steve Angeli.

On the other hand, Fran's kicker is 3/5 on the season.

Edit: Angeli throws his second interception of night, 5 in two games now. Fran Brown does not look happy.

RU#1fan · Thursday at 8:43 PM

bigmatt718 said:
He lost me for good bringing that dip **** back as DC.

In reality that’s only type of Coach that will now work under the control freak stubborn Schiano.

RU Cheese · Thursday at 8:55 PM

Shelby65 said:
Which Illinois debacle ? The one where he gave up a big lead in the famous Leonard Leap game and then won the OT toss and chose to get the ball first ? That Illinois debacle ?

Shelby always tells it like it is. Cheese really respects that. Gary is unusually bad at coaching for being a coach.

RU Cheese · Thursday at 8:57 PM

The guy CRIED when we beat a 2-10 (0-9) Purdue team last year. Come on, man.

RUTGERS95 · Thursday at 8:59 PM

RU Cheese said:
The guy CRIED when we beat a 2-10 (0-9) Purdue team last year. Come on, man.

One of the most embarrassing RU football moments

Bueller · Thursday at 10:34 PM

RU Cheese said:
The guy CRIED when we beat a 2-10 (0-9) Purdue team last year. Come on, man.

Shelby65 · Thursday at 10:37 PM

RU Cheese said:
Shelby always tells it like it is. Cheese really respects that. Gary is unusually bad at coaching for being a coach.

Thanks, brother. Shelby takes it further. Grifting Gary is uniquely bad at coaching for being a coach. Unusually doesn’t cover it. He’s reached the zenith of bad. There’s only one mug on the Mt Rushmore of current bad coaches. His. The differences between The Wyckoff Weasel and Chris Ash are that Ash didn’t have all the best teams leave the conference enabling him to finish third, once, and also that Ash is thought highly of and got other key jobs after. Schiano is unhirable and even less likable.

matei · Friday at 4:40 AM

I knew the moment the Illinois field goal fiasco game was over …

Greg should never have been allowed to come back after last season.

Having said that, I remain stunned a the level of incompetence this team, thanks to the head man, has shown. He seems to be so out of touch with reality that there is no way he makes it beyond the Indiana game (which will be something I don’t want to see as the good Rutgers university name will be spit on, pissed on, and torched on at a level we have never witnessed before - everyone should stay off their TVs and social media for at least a week).

PSAL_Hoops · Friday at 7:11 AM

The moderate in me has to step in here.

Let’s please, tell it like it is. We had in fact “come a long way” at that time to even be in the position to beat a fringe ranked team with time expiring. The program was a complete dumpster fire leading up to the 2.0 era. You can’t compare what we were the 3 seasons prior to what we were under 2.0 at any point… UNTIL this season. That’s not to say, what we were was “good enough” progress - but that’s a different conversation entirely. One that no longer matters.

The bottomline is we’ve now come full circle back to Ashland. An argument could be made that 2026-27 is trending towards a rock bottom landing that could even surpass our darkest years under Ash. That’s TBD as it’s still unclear just how bad UMass is going to be this year. BC too.

The point is - Greg had, at best elevated us from historically bad to mediocre. I don’t care who you are - you don’t build up enough good will from that to survive the historically bad year we’re destined for after only 2 games.

RUTGERS95 · Friday at 5:05 PM

matei said:
I knew the moment the Illinois field goal fiasco game was over …

Greg should never have been allowed to come back after last season.

Having said that, I remain stunned a the level of incompetence this team, thanks to the head man, has shown. He seems to be so out of touch with reality that there is no way he makes it beyond the Indiana game (which will be something I don’t want to see as the good Rutgers university name will be spit on, pissed on, and torched on at a level we have never witnessed before - everyone should stay off their TVs and social media for at least a week).

Sad but true

Scarlet_Craig · Friday at 7:53 PM

superfan02 said:
Every failed relationship, business or coaching tenure has a defining moment when you know it's not going to work anymore even if it doesn't end immediately then.

Ash had the 80-7 beat down to Michigan year 1 when the fan base knew this guy wasn't up for it. He never recovered.

For Greg 2.0, his defining moment was the botched timeout and loss to Illinois. I think at that point the fan base turned on Greg for good and all the concerns about him being a bad game day coach were confirmed. There is just no coming back from such a bad moment. It was really just a matter of time before the end would come.

I like Greg and appreciate what he did in his first tenure but I can't help but wonder what would have been different had he not made one of the worst calls of all time that day. The '24 season would have been a huge success and he likely would have had a lot more goodwill with fanbase.

Ash lost 78-0 to Michigan. SCHIANO lost 80-7 to WVU.

noble106 · Friday at 9:41 PM

For those who weren't in attendance for the Illinois game, let me spoil it for you:

It sucked and it was really cold. Seeing that moment live would turn even the most diehard Schiano fans into forever-haters. Completely different ball game when you see the call live with your own two eyes immediately after you just high fived everyone behind you thinking you were barely a minute away from clutching a milestone win.

Caliknight · Friday at 10:44 PM

Scarlet_Craig said:
Ash lost 78-0 to Michigan. SCHIANO lost 80-7 to WVU.

And here comes SC!

Greg 2.0 never recovered from the timeout disaster vs Illinois

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