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Because a lot of lawns will not get mowed. I'm ok with the 400...but not the rest.
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Well let me ask you this. This is the scenario I bring up whenever this discussion occurs. And this is a true story.

Back in the day one of my buddies in law school drank too much and drove wherever. I don't think he was hammered but he was over the limit comfortably. He was the only person in his car and stopped at light. 2 cars collided on the intersecting road in front of him and one of the cars then rolled into his stopped car. No major impact but enough that he had to wait for the police. Does he deserve a DUI?

He received a DUI. Why? He was doing absolutely nothing wrong except for the illegal act that put him in that position to begin with.
 
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Well let me ask you this. This is the scenario I bring up whenever this discussion occurs. And this is a true story.

Back in the day one of my buddies in law school drank too much and drove wherever. I don't think he was hammered but he was over the limit comfortably. He was the only person in his car and stopped at light. 2 cars collided on the intersecting road in front of him and one of the cars then rolled into his stopped car. No major impact but enough that he had to wait for the police. Does he deserve a DUI?

He received a DUI. Why? He was doing absolutely nothing wrong except for the illegal act that put him in that position to begin with.
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Yes. He deserved it. He broke the law and was caught. No different than being stopped at a checkpoint.
 
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Well let me ask you this. This is the scenario I bring up whenever this discussion occurs. And this is a true story.

Back in the day one of my buddies in law school drank too much and drove wherever. I don't think he was hammered but he was over the limit comfortably. He was the only person in his car and stopped at light. 2 cars collided on the intersecting road in front of him and one of the cars then rolled into his stopped car. No major impact but enough that he had to wait for the police. Does he deserve a DUI?

He received a DUI. Why? He was doing absolutely nothing wrong except for the illegal act that put him in that position to begin with.
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If a drunk driving a car pulls over to the side of the road and passes out, should he or she get a ticket? The answer is, they do get tickets
 
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Well let me ask you this. This is the scenario I bring up whenever this discussion occurs. And this is a true story.

Back in the day one of my buddies in law school drank too much and drove wherever. I don't think he was hammered but he was over the limit comfortably. He was the only person in his car and stopped at light. 2 cars collided on the intersecting road in front of him and one of the cars then rolled into his stopped car. No major impact but enough that he had to wait for the police. Does he deserve a DUI?

He received a DUI. Why? He was doing absolutely nothing wrong except for the illegal act that put him in that position to begin with.
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So, by your own admission, he was doing something wrong, driving illegally. And yea, I think all illegals should be deported, every single one. If they can come back legally, great, but they should all be removed. I don’t care how long they’ve been here, I don’t care what services they perform, I don’t care if they have established families, if they’re illegal, see ya.

Yes, it’s heartbreaking to hear some of the stories, but, fundamentally, they created the conditions to which they should be held accountable for. Period. Don’t go where you’re not invited.
 
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So, by your own admission, he was doing something wrong, driving illegally. And yea, I think all illegals should be deported, every single one. If they can come back legally, great, but they should all be removed. I don’t care how long they’ve been here, I don’t care what services they perform, I don’t care if they have established families, if they’re illegal, see ya.

Yes, it’s heartbreaking to hear some of the stories, but, fundamentally, they created the conditions to which they should be held accountable for. Period. Don’t go where you’re not invited.
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Right. The crime was him being where he was. It didn't matter that he had nothing to do with any subsequent incidents or crimes.

The last sentence is spot on. As I like to say, illegals have the same right to be here as I do to be in someone else's home.
 
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Well let me ask you this. This is the scenario I bring up whenever this discussion occurs. And this is a true story.

Back in the day one of my buddies in law school drank too much and drove wherever. I don't think he was hammered but he was over the limit comfortably. He was the only person in his car and stopped at light. 2 cars collided on the intersecting road in front of him and one of the cars then rolled into his stopped car. No major impact but enough that he had to wait for the police. Does he deserve a DUI?

He received a DUI. Why? He was doing absolutely nothing wrong except for the illegal act that put him in that position to begin with.
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His illegal act was drinking and driving. Did he exit the car with keys in ignition? It is still a DUI. Did he have his keys on him if he exited the car? Still DUI because of proximity to the car. Just because you didn't cause the accident doesn't mean you didn't break the law.
 
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Right. The crime was him being where he was. It didn't matter that he had nothing to do with any subsequent incidents or crimes.

The last sentence is spot on. As I like to say, illegals have the same right to be here as I do to be in someone else's home.
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Illegals have a process they can go through if they want to be here.
 
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His illegal act was drinking and driving. Did he exit the car with keys in ignition? It is still a DUI. Did he have his keys on him if he exited the car? Still DUI because of proximity to the car. Just because you didn't cause the accident doesn't mean you didn't break the law.
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NY state troopers tried to give me a dui for sleeping in my truck in the bar parking lot . I didn't have the keys so they lost in court .
 
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His illegal act was drinking and driving. Did he exit the car with keys in ignition? It is still a DUI. Did he have his keys on him if he exited the car? Still DUI because of proximity to the car. Just because you didn't cause the accident doesn't mean you didn't break the law.
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I know that. I agree with you. That was the point of the anecdote.
 
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