Pirates on Fox tonight vs Dodgers

SoJxnVol

Sophomore
Nov 30, 2025
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.500 with a 3.00 era is a stud? No thanks. Just another example of being able to suck, not get fired and get rich at the same time.
 

Perd Hapley

All-American
Sep 30, 2022
6,451
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He won the last two Cy Young’s in the AL.

But he’s probably overrated…

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They’ve certainly moved beyond a pitcher’s W-L record as a meaningful statistic these days. It really means nothing at this point. And perhaps that’s fair, but it’s still so weird to me.

Skenes won the NL Cy Young last year - unanimously - with a 10-10 record. Just crazy. Seems like WAR and WHIP are really all that matter in this new era where saber-metrics are all mainstream.
 

She Mate Me

Heisman
Dec 7, 2008
14,877
14,080
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They’ve certainly moved beyond a pitcher’s W-L record as a meaningful statistic these days. It really means nothing at this point. And perhaps that’s fair, but it’s still so weird to me.

Skenes won the NL Cy Young last year - unanimously - with a 10-10 record. Just crazy. Seems like WAR and WHIP are really all that matter in this new era where saber-metrics are all mainstream.

Well, Skubal’s not gonna win awards this season, but he went 13-6 and 18-4 in Detroit the last two seasons with very good stats. Was a unanimous pick for the CY in 24.

I don’t mind great pitchers on bad teams getting recognized for great seasons.
 
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