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Technically yes, but just a preseason game (and not a whole one at that) , and had only signed a preseason contract.
I believe this ruling currently applies to 16 players.
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They still played professional football and were paid to do it. I can sort of see the truly undrafted players who never played a down of any kind for an NFL team having another year of eligibility. Guys that get paid to play NFL football should not be allowed to return to college football.

I wonder how the "academics" are going to work? Can they reenroll at a school as a freshman? What will the acceptance requirements be?
 
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Piscis said:
They still played professional football and were paid to do it. I can sort of see the truly undrafted players who never played a down of any kind for an NFL team having another year of eligibility. Guys that get paid to play NFL football should not be allowed to return to college football.

I wonder how the "academics" are going to work? Can they reenroll at a school as a freshman? What will the acceptance requirements be?
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This is what many of us on here (maybe you as well) have predicted for a while now: that players who were drafted (or undrafted) but only ever made the practice squad or similar would get to return to college ball.

Yes, this player only played in a preseason game, and briefly at that, but he played in an NFL game.

This simply cracks the door for the future.
 
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Piscis said:
They still played professional football and were paid to do it. I can sort of see the truly undrafted players who never played a down of any kind for an NFL team having another year of eligibility. Guys that get paid to play NFL football should not be allowed to return to college football.

I wonder how the "academics" are going to work? Can they reenroll at a school as a freshman? What will the acceptance requirements be?
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I don't know about Freshman, maybe they can give them an internship at a driving range.
 
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Piscis said:


They are no longer even pretending college football is an amateur sport.
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I can't say that I have or will stop following college football. But, I'm clearly past the point of caring how things flow. To me, that's sad. I post on this site because I genuinely like everyone on this site and consider people here as "friends", if that's possible "on-line". I don't agree with everyone here on everything sports-wise, Gamecock-wise, political-wise, etc. But so what? I don't agree with family members on everything. As Spurrier would say, "It is what it is".
 
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Piscis said:
They still played professional football and were paid to do it. I can sort of see the truly undrafted players who never played a down of any kind for an NFL team having another year of eligibility. Guys that get paid to play NFL football should not be allowed to return to college football.

I wonder how the "academics" are going to work? Can they reenroll at a school as a freshman? What will the acceptance requirements be?
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Consistency is important across all sports.
 
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Uscg1984 said:
If we can sign professional players from European leagues to play for the Gamecocks in basketball, I really don't see how you can exclude NFL players. It's all crazy, I know, but what's the difference?
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I think these players are in a unique position. At the time of them entering the NFL, they did not have any college eligibility left. But due to policy changes since then, they now have an additional year.
This shouldn’t be an ongoing issue after this season.
 
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LazyIslander said:
I think these players are in a unique position. At the time of them entering the NFL, they did not have any college eligibility left. But due to policy changes since then, they now have an additional year.
This shouldn’t be an ongoing issue after this season.
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I would normally agree. I see that happening here. What concerns me is that we never take a step, then return to normal. We seem to take that step, think this it, then take another step towards lunacy.
 
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I can't say that I have or will stop following college football. But, I'm clearly past the point of caring how things flow. To me, that's sad. I post on this site because I genuinely like everyone on this site and consider people here as "friends", if that's possible "on-line". I don't agree with everyone here on everything sports-wise, Gamecock-wise, political-wise, etc. But so what? I don't agree with family members on everything. As Spurrier would say, "It is what it is".
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You forgot the tooth suck.
 
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LazyIslander said:
I think these players are in a unique position. At the time of them entering the NFL, they did not have any college eligibility left. But due to policy changes since then, they now have an additional year.
This shouldn’t be an ongoing issue after this season.
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Lurker123 said:
I would normally agree. I see that happening here. What concerns me is that we never take a step, then return to normal. We seem to take that step, think this it, then take another step towards lunacy.
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Yes, the problem is that it never stops. Some player/players will use this ruling for their own lawsuit to come back to college. It creates a crack.
 
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LazyIslander said:
I think these players are in a unique position. At the time of them entering the NFL, they did not have any college eligibility left. But due to policy changes since then, they now have an additional year.
This shouldn’t be an ongoing issue after this season.
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I see it as an ongoing issue. Players will leave early for the NFL, after using 3 years of eligibility. Some of those players will not pan out in the NFL after a few seasons. Those players will want to go back to college and get NIL money, so they will claim their 2 remaining years of eligibility. Colleges will become short term landing spots for players who were good enough to be drafted but not good enough to make it in the NFL.
 
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Piscis said:
I see it as an ongoing issue. Players will leave early for the NFL, after using 3 years of eligibility. Some of those players will not pan out in the NFL after a few seasons. Those players will want to go back to college and get NIL money, so they will claim their 2 remaining years of eligibility. Colleges will become short term landing spots for players who were good enough to be drafted but not good enough to make it in the NFL.
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Sadly, many coaches would go along with it, if it meant winning. There's always a Lane Kiffin type out there.
 
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18IsTheMan said:
Sadly, many coaches would go along with it, if it meant winning. There's always a Lane Kiffin type out there.
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It isn't only Lane and his type. I guarantee you Beamer would snatch up an NFL player if he wanted to come to Carolina. The service academies are probably the only programs that wouldn't take them.

The pressure on coaches to win is incredible, and it should be. They will do whatever they think they need to to win.
 
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It isn't only Lane and his type. I guarantee you Beamer would snatch up an NFL player if he wanted to come to Carolina. The service academies are probably the only programs that wouldn't take them.

The pressure on coaches to win is incredible, and it should be. They will do whatever they think they need to to win.
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Oh, yeah, they would all do it b/c they know someone else will if they won't. But I believe it's driven by the Kiffin types. I think they are coaches who would PREFER to not have to do it.
 
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Most will do just about anything for money. Remember, "the LOVE of money is the root of all evil." The world proves this true every single day.
 
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It isn't only Lane and his type. I guarantee you Beamer would snatch up an NFL player if he wanted to come to Carolina. The service academies are probably the only programs that wouldn't take them.

The pressure on coaches to win is incredible, and it should be. They will do whatever they think they need to to win.
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I would go so far as to say to say this. If one of the players who was recently ruled eligible, and he expressed a desire to come here, and Beamer declined the fan base would not be happy.
 
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18IsTheMan said:
Yes, the problem is that it never stops. Some player/players will use this ruling for their own lawsuit to come back to college. It creates a crack.
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Coming back to college to finish one's degree or pursue another is a good thing. Coming back to school to play varsity sports is something else,
 
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Piscis said:
It isn't only Lane and his type. I guarantee you Beamer would snatch up an NFL player if he wanted to come to Carolina. The service academies are probably the only programs that wouldn't take them.

The pressure on coaches to win is incredible, and it should be. They will do whatever they think they need to to win.
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The Ivies in addition to the service academies.
 
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