College- will anyone go in ten years?

College- will anyone go in ten years?

  • no- AI and the internet will make it a stupid investment

    Votes: 2 5.7%
  • yes- a few Techs and the service academies will still have a purpose

    Votes: 26 74.3%
  • football

    Votes: 7 20.0%

  • Total voters
    35

Tgar

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My Alma Mater (BSCJ), Albright, is close to going belly up. Stinks, because their adult program really helped a lot of people like myself start second careers.
One would imagine, Many of the Albright Colleges re not long for this world. That is unfortunate.
 
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Tgar

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Made me laugh
BTW, Always remember, those bands you love, the ones where the kids are living communally, they do it because they either love the lifestyle or where it helps them get to In life. They re Risk takers. It’s not easy pulling off a tour, paying for or finding ( most of the time ) lodging when you are already paying for your small piece of carpet back home, let alone food and the exorbitant price of gas.

Those folks that spend every dime on recording and touring not only love themselves, they appreciate you. Be generous, be very generous when your paths cross or you go see a show.

Tgar is going to go off script here for a moment. I can’t tell you how many times I have picked up a meal for a group of folks or lodging or watched their dogs while they were on stage or held down the merch booth for free or picked up endless rounds of IPAs etc.

AI and the people that brought you AI are squeezing the margins of these folks existence. Maybe not deliberately but it is happening.

Support Live Music. I know you do, it’s many others that don't think twice about not showing some love.

Rant over.
 

MtNittany

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I don’t have the imagination to know where things are going to go from here.
Here's my guess...

 

PSUHarry

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What is the demand for people who can cause the problems that need to be solved?

😞
This is why hiring is so difficult. You sit in front of them in an interview process trying to determine how this person is gonna behave in the workplace both professionally and personally.
Everyone is the best version of themselves in an interview.

I think my hair may have gotten me several jobs.
 
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BTW, Always remember, those bands you love, the ones where the kids are living communally, they do it because they either love the lifestyle or where it helps them get to In life. They re Risk takers. It’s not easy pulling off a tour, paying for or finding ( most of the time ) lodging when you are already paying for your small piece of carpet back home, let alone food and the exorbitant price of gas.

Those folks that spend every dime on recording and touring not only love themselves, they appreciate you. Be generous, be very generous when your paths cross or you go see a show.

Tgar is going to go off script here for a moment. I can’t tell you how many times I have picked up a meal for a group of folks or lodging or watched their dogs while they were on stage or held down the merch booth for free or picked up endless rounds of IPAs etc.

AI and the people that brought you AI are squeezing the margins of these folks existence. Maybe not deliberately but it is happening.

Support Live Music. I know you do, it’s many others that don't think twice about not showing some love.

Rant over.
i sold 2s m35x (they dont need 2 cars in philly) last week to a 19yo kid and his girlfriend. they looked 12, they both called me sir and Mr Rick. after a test drive, we agreed on $5800. he said "ive saved $3200, if i sell my truck in the next few weeks i should have enough. went home told moms how cute respectful and hard working they were. i had a mind to just give it to them. called him and said ill take 5k.
point of the story is yes, were always looking out for hard working yutes.
 
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F&M used to be the quintessential “pre” school. Pre med especially and pre law. Was known as a very competitive knives out place for pre med back in 70’s but almost guaranteed acceptance med school if you made it through.
bro is a lawyer, sister studied.....wait for it........art history
 

Bison13

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This is what I tell kids in even my AP classes. Each kid is different and the accumulating of 200K of debt for any degree, even STEM may not be worth it for them. Two examples:

One of my smartest Calc kids never went to college. About 12 years ago he got a 5 on the AP exam and won our schools math student of the year but he didnt want to go to college. He was already working at a car dealership doing detailing and on the lot moving vehicles. He wanted to eventually own a dealership so he just wanted to work his way up. Did some work in the maintenance department filing tickets and selling tires, moved his way to the used car lot and the owner loved him, now he's one of those 'managers' that the sales guy always has to go 'talk' to about your offer. Gave me a good deal on our van and he's doing pretty damn well for himself at 30.

Another kid was not the best math student but liked working on cars/tractors/etc. Did the HS vo-tech stuff to get their diesel certification. Worked part time as a HS senior at a john deere type maintenance shop so he had some experience. He graduates HS, has no debt, immediately got a job working at a diesel garage working a standard 8-4:30, with benefits. I think he said it was $20/hr to start during his first 90 day probation period, but he also could work OT every weekend. He said he also gets discounts on parts for his own stuff, free lunch Fridays and in winter when most of the construction companies/farmers get their fleets completely serviced, he would also get mileage reimbursement for driving to their facility. This kids a bit younger but no debt and able to stay with his folks for a few years, he was able to save most of his $
 
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This is what I tell kids in even my AP classes. Each kid is different and the accumulating of 200K of debt for any degree, even STEM may not be worth it for them. Two examples:

One of my smartest Calc kids never went to college. About 12 years ago he got a 5 on the AP exam and won our schools math student of the year but he didnt want to go to college. He was already working at a car dealership doing detailing and on the lot moving vehicles. He wanted to eventually own a dealership so he just wanted to work his way up. Did some work in the maintenance department filing tickets and selling tires, moved his way to the used car lot and the owner loved him, now he's one of those 'managers' that the sales guy always has to go 'talk' to about your offer. Gave me a good deal on our van and he's doing pretty damn well for himself at 30.

Another kid was not the best math student but liked working on cars/tractors/etc. Did the HS vo-tech stuff to get their diesel certification. Worked part time as a HS senior at a john deere type maintenance shop so he had some experience. He graduates HS, has no debt, immediately got a job working at a diesel garage working a standard 8-4:30, with benefits. I think he said it was $20/hr to start during his first 90 day probation period, but he also could work OT every weekend. He said he also gets discounts on parts for his own stuff, free lunch Fridays and in winter when most of the construction companies/farmers get their fleets completely serviced, he would also get mileage reimbursement for driving to their facility. This kids a bit younger but no debt and able to stay with his folks for a few years, he was able to save most of his $
I tell my kids commute to Del state, 8k
 

Aardvark86

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It depends on whether colleges adapt how they teach. AI is fine. But it will result in employers hiring people based on things like judgement and actual understanding, which colleges aren’t really built around today in their teaching methods
 
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BobPSU92

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College is morphing into more of a joke all the time.

From the article:

”The initiative is designed to help students “establish early momentum." The college claims that the introduction of a “covered grade” policy will enable students to “start strong and curb the mental health crisis unfolding among college-aged individuals.””

Snowflakes. For f*ck’s sake.
 

Moogy

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i sold 2s m35x (they dont need 2 cars in philly) last week to a 19yo kid and his girlfriend. they looked 12, they both called me sir and Mr Rick. after a test drive, we agreed on $5800. he said "ive saved $3200, if i sell my truck in the next few weeks i should have enough. went home told moms how cute respectful and hard working they were. i had a mind to just give it to them. called him and said ill take 5k.
point of the story is yes, were always looking out for hard working yutes.
They haven’t made the m35x since 2010 … you selling antiques?
 

Moogy

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This is what I tell kids in even my AP classes. Each kid is different and the accumulating of 200K of debt for any degree, even STEM may not be worth it for them. Two examples:

One of my smartest Calc kids never went to college. About 12 years ago he got a 5 on the AP exam and won our schools math student of the year but he didnt want to go to college. He was already working at a car dealership doing detailing and on the lot moving vehicles. He wanted to eventually own a dealership so he just wanted to work his way up. Did some work in the maintenance department filing tickets and selling tires, moved his way to the used car lot and the owner loved him, now he's one of those 'managers' that the sales guy always has to go 'talk' to about your offer. Gave me a good deal on our van and he's doing pretty damn well for himself at 30.

Another kid was not the best math student but liked working on cars/tractors/etc. Did the HS vo-tech stuff to get their diesel certification. Worked part time as a HS senior at a john deere type maintenance shop so he had some experience. He graduates HS, has no debt, immediately got a job working at a diesel garage working a standard 8-4:30, with benefits. I think he said it was $20/hr to start during his first 90 day probation period, but he also could work OT every weekend. He said he also gets discounts on parts for his own stuff, free lunch Fridays and in winter when most of the construction companies/farmers get their fleets completely serviced, he would also get mileage reimbursement for driving to their facility. This kids a bit younger but no debt and able to stay with his folks for a few years, he was able to save most of his $

The ROI on most degrees really kicks into gear years down the line … like starting at 10 and then really going at 15-20 years. That’s simplifying it, of course (some start paying for themselves very early, some not at all, etc.) … but that’s often the case. You pay the loans off, then you start getting the higher promotions to the bigger bucks.
 
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BobPSU92

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The ROI on most degrees really kicks into gear years down the line … like starting at 10 and then really going at 15-20 years. That’s simplifying it, of course (sole start paying for themselves very early, some not at all, etc.) … but that’s often the case. You pay the loans off, then you start getting the higher promotions to the bigger bucks.

 
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They haven’t made the m35x since 2010 … you selling antiques?
while waiting for the m2 (the order took forever) 2 and i swapped my TT for his GTI. Some kid bought the GTI right after we swapped, moms put up with sharing her car about 2 weeks so i bought the 06 m35x beater for 10k, when my m2 got delivered 2 sold the TT while it still retaining some value and i gave him the 35. when he and his fiance moved in together they no longer needed 2 cars in the city so i gave him 5k and sold if for him.
when they move to the suburbs hes buying a 718/c8/emira that we will share.
we're also keeping a close eye on these. audi is hinting they are coming here in 2028
 
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Moogy

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while waiting for the m2 (the order took forever) 2 and i swapped my TT for his GTI. Some kid bought the GTI right after we swapped, moms put up with sharing her car about 2 weeks so i bought the 06 m35x beater for 10k, when my m2 got delivered 2 sold the TT while it still retaining some value and i gave him the 35. when he and his fiance moved in together they no longer needed 2 cars in the city so i gave him 5k and sold if for him.
when they move to the suburbs hes buying a 718/c8/emira that we will share.
we're also keeping a close eye on these. audi is hinting they are coming here in 2028


I'm going to be honest ... this is literally the first time this has ever happened to me in my illustrious posting career. I got about 10 words into that and decided I didn't want to read the rest.

I've read so much horrible stuff ... whether it's hateful, whether it's just jumbled and confusing, whether I don't really care that much or at all about what's being written, whether it's long-winded and self-indulgent ... I still trudge through it. But, here, I just tapped out.
 
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I'm going to be honest ... this is literally the first time this has ever happened to me in my illustrious posting career. I got about 10 words into that and decided I didn't want to read the rest.

I've read so much horrible stuff ... whether it's hateful, whether it's just jumbled and confusing, whether I don't really care that much or at all about what's being written, whether it's long-winded and self-indulgent ... I still trudge through it. But, here, I just tapped out.
lol, the boy just texted me this thank you

Hi Mr Rick just wanted to let you know I really really appreciate everything thank you so much for helping out I love the car and the head unit is good I just had to utilize the dvd system. Speakers are amazing and I love that there right next to your ears on the seat again thank you so much
 
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I'm going to be honest ... this is literally the first time this has ever happened to me in my illustrious posting career. I got about 10 words into that and decided I didn't want to read the rest.

I've read so much horrible stuff ... whether it's hateful, whether it's just jumbled and confusing, whether I don't really care that much or at all about what's being written, whether it's long-winded and self-indulgent ... I still trudge through it. But, here, I just tapped out.
everything is ok. Like I tell 1 n 2, you won’t like everyone you meet and that’s ok
 
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