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Iron Doc

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8th grade is actually the grade most kids repeat. Bassett I believe did 8th twice and I think Schwab boys as well. So if it's kindergarten it's ok why? Are you fairly certain his grades were good in 8th grade? My guess is you've no clue and you look for any reason you can to say bad things about Ben 🤷
This calls for a comment. I retired after 753 years in education, and firmly disagree with the comment "8th grade is actually the grade most kids repeat." This does NOT happen; academic based retention IS a K-2 situation to get kids on the right track. By 8th grade, retentions do not happen due to social (labling) concerns.
A set of parents would have to be seriously pushy to "redshirt" their kid for nonacademic reasons. (Granted, I would have been tempted to if my kid had been an 89# 9th grader trying to wrestle 103 back in the day.)
Whether or not Kueter repeated 8th grade or not, there is NO reason to think he was ever academically challenged.
 

Comment123

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This calls for a comment. I retired after 753 years in education, and firmly disagree with the comment "8th grade is actually the grade most kids repeat." This does NOT happen; academic based retention IS a K-2 situation to get kids on the right track. By 8th grade, retentions do not happen due to social (labling) concerns.
A set of parents would have to be seriously pushy to "redshirt" their kid for nonacademic reasons. (Granted, I would have been tempted to if my kid had been an 89# 9th grader trying to wrestle 103 back in the day.)
Whether or not Kueter repeated 8th grade or not, there is NO reason to think he was ever academically challenged.
Thank you.

or should I say...class dismissed, Corby.
 

hooraybeer

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8th grade is actually the grade most kids repeat. Bassett I believe did 8th twice and I think Schwab boys as well. So if it's kindergarten it's ok why? Are you fairly certain his grades were good in 8th grade? My guess is you've no clue and you look for any reason you can to say bad things about Ben 🤷
Levi Haines and Bo Basset were on a Cadet world
team together. Guess Levi is just super smart. 👍
 
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Corby2

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This calls for a comment. I retired after 753 years in education, and firmly disagree with the comment "8th grade is actually the grade most kids repeat." This does NOT happen; academic based retention IS a K-2 situation to get kids on the right track. By 8th grade, retentions do not happen due to social (labling) concerns.
A set of parents would have to be seriously pushy to "redshirt" their kid for nonacademic reasons. (Granted, I would have been tempted to if my kid had been an 89# 9th grader trying to wrestle 103 back in the day.)
Whether or not Kueter repeated 8th grade or not, there is NO reason to think he was ever academically challenged.
753 years damn that pension must be insane congratulations
 

Trakker

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This calls for a comment. I retired after 753 years in education, and firmly disagree with the comment "8th grade is actually the grade most kids repeat." This does NOT happen; academic based retention IS a K-2 situation to get kids on the right track. By 8th grade, retentions do not happen due to social (labling) concerns.
A set of parents would have to be seriously pushy to "redshirt" their kid for nonacademic reasons. (Granted, I would have been tempted to if my kid had been an 89# 9th grader trying to wrestle 103 back in the day.)
Whether or not Kueter repeated 8th grade or not, there is NO reason to think he was ever academically challenged.
I believe he was referring to 8th grade being the most repeated grade for kids " redshirting" , which is accurate. In some states, you dont have to repeat 8th grade, you can take a gap year between 8th and 9th grade and not go to school at all.
 

Iron Doc

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I believe he was referring to 8th grade being the most repeated grade for kids " redshirting" , which is accurate. In some states, you dont have to repeat 8th grade, you can take a gap year between 8th and 9th grade and not go to school at all.
I can honestly say I never heard of a gap year between 8th & 9th.
Do any states bordering Iowa have that policy?
 

TheKnutsens

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What are you hearing ? I thought he was a good size 149? Did he finally fill out?

Excited to see Block turn heads at 157 if he does ascend up! I rather see him at 149 though…


If you start at the 49:30 mark, they discuss Jordan's recent IG story. Apparently he's going (or trying to go) 149 next season. I'm happy with that provided Ryder is content at 157. Ryder gassed a few times last year and I can't help but think weight cutting was a factor.

That said, check out Jordan's Pan-Ams run. Impressive work and certainly inspires some much needed confidence.

 
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dicemen99

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I can honestly say I never heard of a gap year between 8th & 9th.
Do any states bordering Iowa have that policy?
Man, you guys in Iowa don’t really have a clue. You should come to PA where this is a science.

To the teacher with 753 years of experience- nobody that holds back their kid in 8th grade does so at the same school. Your K-2 example is with school buy in. With athletic holdbacks parents are solely driving the bus.

To the other dodos, nobody who holds back their kid in 8th grade pulls a gap year, there are laws about educating your children.

When kids are held back in 8th grade for athletic did purposes, they move from a public school to a private, parochial, charter, or home school situation and repeat the 8th grade. Then they enter 9th grade the next year. Sometimes staying at or going to a different private school, where you could say academically that was a pretty good idea anyway, or they head back to (usually a different) public or parochial school.

And this is pretty limited to a group of elite athletes (in all sports), thus saying it is common is in related to the small sample size, not the general population. This is a wrestling board, so that should have been fairly self evident, but as usual, wasn’t to some.
 

Iron Doc

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Man, you guys in Iowa don’t really have a clue. You should come to PA where this is a science.

To the teacher with 753 years of experience- nobody that holds back their kid in 8th grade does so at the same school. Your K-2 example is with school buy in. With athletic holdbacks parents are solely driving the bus.

To the other dodos, nobody who holds back their kid in 8th grade pulls a gap year, there are laws about educating your children.

When kids are held back in 8th grade for athletic did purposes, they move from a public school to a private, parochial, charter, or home school situation and repeat the 8th grade. Then they enter 9th grade the next year. Sometimes staying at or going to a different private school, where you could say academically that was a pretty good idea anyway, or they head back to (usually a different) public or parochial school.

And this is pretty limited to a group of elite athletes (in all sports), thus saying it is common is in related to the small sample size, not the general population. This is a wrestling board, so that should have been fairly self evident, but as usual, wasn’t to some.
Well, THAT's interesting!
I guess that confirms that I live under a rock up here on the windswept, desolate, frozen tundra of NC Iowa.
I acknowledge that Comrade Corby was referring to the elite strata of HS wrestlers (& parents) throughout the USofA.
 

manatree

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This calls for a comment. I retired after 753 years in education, and firmly disagree with the comment "8th grade is actually the grade most kids repeat."

What grade did Abraham Lincoln repeat?
When kids are held back in 8th grade for athletic did purposes, they move from a public school to a private, parochial, charter, or home school situation and repeat the 8th grade. Then they enter 9th grade the next year. Sometimes staying at or going to a different private school, where you could say academically that was a pretty good idea anyway, or they head back to (usually a different) public or parochial school.

And this is pretty limited to a group of elite athletes (in all sports), thus saying it is common is in related to the small sample size, not the general population. This is a wrestling board, so that should have been fairly self evident, but as usual, wasn’t to some.

Back in the 70s & 80s, you didn’t have to switch schools to repeat 8th grade in PA.
 

MSU158

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What grade did Abraham Lincoln repeat?


Back in the 70s & 80s, you didn’t have to switch schools to repeat 8th grade in PA.
Abraham Lincoln? You are using a very short time frame. He goes all the way back to Christopher Columbus.. In fact, you should ask him what tribe he is from and if he was actually part of the welcoming committee! ;)
 
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manatree

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Abraham Lincoln? You are using a very short time frame. He goes all the way back to Christopher Columbus.. In fact, you should ask him what tribe he is from and if he was actually part of the welcoming committee! ;)

After 753 years in education, I figured that asking them to recall recent history was the safe bet.
 
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Natchrlman2

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This calls for a comment. I retired after 753 years in education, and firmly disagree with the comment
is it possible it just seemed like 753 years? You’d of been teaching 500 years already when Abe was in middle school !!
 
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dicemen99

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Kids are doing it more and more. I live in SE Iowa and there are multiple kids doing it in this region.
Are they all breaking the law?

You can’t do a “gap” year in 8th grade - not even in Iowa. Those kids are enrolled at a private, parochial, charter, or home school.
 
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FanInBlack

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Keuter had every bit the accolades coming out of high school as Ross and he didn't tear up the competition in his first year of heavyweight collegiate wrestling. Why is everyone convinced Ross will? What sets him apart?
he didnt focus on football when he got to college. The wrestling program and coaches he committed to. His training partners. The last 15 + years as an Iowa fan.

He will probably be a 4x finalist against a PSU heavy.

All of the above and more. rinse and F repeat.
 
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Majorities in rural Iowa and small-towns chew tobacco and believe in god.
 

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Are they all breaking the law?

You can’t do a “gap” year in 8th grade - not even in Iowa. Those kids are enrolled at a private, parochial, charter, or home school.
The kids in my area are/were taking 8th grade twice with the 2nd year being "home school" now that 8th graders can compete in varsity sports here in Iowa you will be seeing this done in 7th grade.
 

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My daughter started varsity in softball in 8th grade at 3a Benton community in 2010 and they played a few 8th graders when she was in HS…… since when has 8th graders playing varsity sports been illegal in Iowa?
 

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My daughter started varsity in softball in 8th grade at 3a Benton community in 2010 and they played a few 8th graders when she was in HS…… since when has 8th graders playing varsity sports been illegal in Iowa?
Its not/wasnt illegal.....it wasnt permitted by the ihsaa or ighsau. Once a student completed 8th grade, they were/are considered freshman. Since the iowa baseball/softball season is considered a summer sport, they are/were eligible once the school year ends. Starting this upcoming school year, 8th graders are eligible to compete in hs sports.
 

TheREALSpooner

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Cassioppi looked far better before he went lean.

This has become apocryphal. He was really just the same guy. Though he did get 3rd before the weight loss, and his best finish was 4th after, his bonus point scoring went up considerably.

The difference is expectations suddenly went up after the weight loss but the reality was he had the same limitations.


Ross's biggest advantage will be his in-room partners. Doucet and Hendrickson are big and can ride.

His biggest advantage is that he’s in one of the rooms that builds heavies up into beasts, both in terms of size and skill. If his shoulder holds up, he’s going to be a big freaking problem.


Ross is young for his grade and has a lot of runway left as far as maturity, strength, and weight gain goes. He'll pack on more pounds. Keuter redshirted twice, once in 8th grade and again his first year at Iowa. He might be as heavy as he'll ever get while in college?

Imagine thinking a guy who turns 19 in December of his freshman year is “young for his grade.” 🤦
 

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Its not/wasnt illegal.....it wasnt permitted by the ihsaa or ighsau. Once a student completed 8th grade, they were/are considered freshman. Since the iowa baseball/softball season is considered a summer sport, they are/were eligible once the school year ends. Starting this upcoming school year, 8th graders are eligible to compete in hs sports.
Interesting, I never knew why only baseball and softball allowed 8th graders to compete at the varsity level in Iowa. Now I know!
 

WDMHawk72

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Curious how the line up looks like down the road w/ all these kids who have committed (if they hold true to their word)

Do you see a lineup where both Kenney and Bachman brothers are in line up at same time? Paul Kenny and Joe Bachman are both at 165 now somebody will grow.

Could be an exciting time in a few tears - in the meantime just have to wait patiently and hope for the best
 
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