Blatant dive.
They should give that yellow more often so as to discourage it.
They should give that yellow more often so as to discourage it.
I thought yellow cards were not reviewable, except for possible upgrade to red. I don't understand why the play was reviewed.Oh my! The Swiss player Embolo faked a dive, which the ref ruled as a yellow card for an Argentine player, but the VAR reversed the call, taking away the yellow from the Argentine player, which necessitated giving the yellow card to Embolo, who was already on a yellow card and that then led to a red card for Embolo. Very harsh, but that's the way the rule is written (the ref supposedly has no leeway to just cancel the yellow on the Argentinian player).
Ease up buddy. Even the announcers and Clattenberg are calling it harsh.Simulation is a yellow. What are you guys talking about. The total correct call.
Worst part of the world cup is people who have never watched the game give their opinion.
Clattenburg called it harsh to give a card on the other side. Said no way that should be a call on Argentina.Ease up buddy. Even the announcers and Clattenberg are calling it harsh.
Which is ridiculousEase up buddy. Even the announcers and Clattenberg are calling it harsh.
I agree there’s no way that should be a call on Argentina; didn’t say otherwise.Clattenburg called it harsh to give a card on the other side. Said no way that should be a call on Argentina.
Did you say this when the first ever card for this was issued to the Paraguayan player against the US? That rule is absolutely needed to stop all the flopping and diving.What just happened to Switzerland seems to be a rule that needs changing. So because the referee gave a yellow card to Paredes on Argentina (obvious mistake based on the video), the VAR decision has to be either uphold a stupid decision or give a yellow card to the Swiss player? Which is his second yellow, and now the Swiss are down to 10? Huh?
This is the mistaken identification rule, anytime a yellow issued to a player where the opponent simulated the foul the referee will be called to the monitor to review and if he agrees with VAR a yellow will be issued to the player that simulated the foul while the original card is rescinded.I thought yellow cards were not reviewable, except for possible upgrade to red. I don't understand why the play was reviewed.
OK this is helpful, thank you. I was wondering why the decision is binary — i.e. either uphold the yellow shown initially, or issue the yellow to the other player (with no option to just retract the first yellow). This explains the rule.This is the mistaken identification rule, anytime a yellow issued to a player where the opponent simulated the foul the referee will be called to the monitor to review and if he agrees with VAR a yellow will be issued to the player that simulated the foul while the original card is rescinded.
I love the rule. The more diving they can get out of the game, the better…and that was as blatant of a dive as it gets. Stupid play to make when you’re already on a yellow.This is the mistaken identification rule, anytime a yellow issued to a player where the opponent simulated the foul the referee will be called to the monitor to review and if he agrees with VAR a yellow will be issued to the player that simulated the foul while the original card is rescinded.
All I can say is that over the decades, FIFA has not earned the benefit of the doubt.I'm also perplexed by the overwhelming number of people convinced the ball hit the cable in that England game and that it was a fix/inept officiating. Seeing several angles of it, I've seen nothing to show the ball hit anything or changed trajectory (and certainly not anything clear and obvious)...and the sensor in the ball backed it up (though everyone is seeming to claim that it's just proof the Croatia offside call was wrong). What am I missing?
I thought yellow cards were not reviewable, except for possible upgrade to red. I don't understand why the play was reviewed.
I love the rule. The more diving they can get out of the game, the better…and that was as blatant of a dive as it gets. Stupid play to make when you’re already on a yellow.
Good use of it on Ream, and good use tonight.
I dunno, watching the ariel view from behind the goalie and it definitely looks like it changed direction.I'm also perplexed by the overwhelming number of people convinced the ball hit the cable in that England game and that it was a fix/inept officiating. Seeing several angles of it, I've seen nothing to show the ball hit anything or changed trajectory (and certainly not anything clear and obvious)...and the sensor in the ball backed it up (though everyone is seeming to claim that it's just proof the Croatia offside call was wrong). What am I missing?
True but years before they booed ours so that happened firstI mean, we’re the ones threatening to make our anthem theirs…
For the usual suspects: this was a joke…
An overhead view is likely going to be the only view that will conclusively tell us for sure.I dunno, watching the ariel view from behind the goalie and it definitely looks like it changed direction.
Very few Americans are rooting for England. Only the losers.Garbage. Even the announcers were rooting for and tongue bathing the lackluster English team. Why Americans root for them in the WC and Euro is beyond me.
Very few Americans are rooting for England. Only the losers.
You want to see poor fan behavior. Go to the Argentina England game. They both make Philly fans look classy.
It was obvious on review and more obvious when it happened and the players immediate reaction. 2 guys immediately pointed at the same thing. It’s obvious.I dunno, watching the ariel view from behind the goalie and it definitely looks like it changed direction.
Yea beating up Santa Claus and having a jail in your stadium is super cool too. Seeing Argentine hooligans fight with the ugly English will be fun.And like Philly fans, it’s a hell of a lot of fun to drink and root for their team with them.
The expanded format and brackets turned out to be 100% meaningless. What a surprise!There is no way that ball comes down straight the way it did unless it hit something - it’s a as clear as day and it’s unfortunate for Norway
I get it that the ref not video off had proof but boy is it clear the anybody who had a rational mind
Doesn’t mean Norway would have won because if England is down 1-0 in second half, they have different tactics than 1-1.
But it’s too bad as Norway was the underdog - country with a population of greater Atlanta more known for winter sports
Was a great story!
Now who do we root for among 4 giants in soccer?
Ugh
The view from behind looks to me like he sliced it and it travels on a natural path…and the view from the side also looks natural (it doesn’t drop straight down as some claim). I’m definitely not seeing this obvious change of direction.I dunno, watching the ariel view from behind the goalie and it definitely looks like it changed direction.
Who are the two that immediately pointed?It was obvious on review and more obvious when it happened and the players immediate reaction. 2 guys immediately pointed at the same thing. It’s obvious.
Sport doesn’t have a known endingFIFA claiming the England ball didn’t hit the camera cord is wild. You can literally see it. England Argentina brings more eyeballs than the Swiss would. Crazy how corrupt soccer is. American sports are so much cleaner. Subjectivity in soccer makes it ripe for fixing.
Not sure what you are looking at - many angles show the ball hitting something, changing direction and coming straight downThe view from behind looks to me like he sliced it and it travels on a natural path…and the view from the side also looks natural (it doesn’t drop straight down as some claim). I’m definitely not seeing this obvious change of direction.
And the claims that a bunch of players pointed at it immediately aren’t true (at least from what I’ve seen).
Watch the video (I just watched it again)...the Norway coach didn't point at all (at least when it happened), as he's just standing still watching the play and drinking his water.Not sure what you are looking at - many angles show the ball hitting something, changing direction and coming straight down
Even if it sliced, it wouldn’t come straight down like that after arching up
And yes the Norway coach pointed up
The closest players immediately pointed it out. Impossible in the heat of a game to coordinate that on the fly. You can also see they were off line from where they expected the ball to land. It’s irrelevant that it “didn’t come straight down”. It skimmed it clearly changing the angle it wouldnhsve landed otherwise. By rule that makes it a dead ball. But soccer rules are very flexible and change on whims.Watch the video (I just watched it again)...the Norway coach didn't point at all (at least when it happened), as he's just standing still watching the play and drinking his water.
And the ball didn't come straight down...looked to me like it came down on a pretty normal trajectory for one that was popped up a bit with a little slice.
The Euros and their American (almost always woke) fanboys don’t like that American sports are so much cleaner and can’t admit the simple fact soccer rules and administration of those need to brought into this century. It’s all so antiquated. Outside of VAR which they constantly get wrong, what rules have been added or changed? The clock is an obvious one. I’m on numerous text strings where everyone says the same thing. The clock thing is idiotic.Sport doesn’t have a known ending
Only the ref somewhat knows/determines when the game ends
so if you have the football and you keep making positive yards the game clock won’t end
the game doesn’t end unless basketball hits the court or team makes last shot
as long as the puck stays in offensive zone game clock won’t expire
not knowing how many strikes the last 2 hitters get in the bottom of the ninth
ALL OF THE ABOVE ARE STUPID AND COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS
We’ll that’s how SOCCER ends its games
cause it’s to American to stop the clock , rolling on the ground in intense agony will gain you nothing while the game clock is stopped
I’ve enjoyed the intensity but I would enjoy it more if I didn’t have to keep telling my wife ….”oh look another guy just died on the field , I hope he can pull thr—— oh wait he’s up and running again !!”
Can you tell me which players immediately pointed it out? (No one actually did from every video I’ve seen)The closest players immediately pointed it out. Impossible in the heat of a game to coordinate that on the fly. You can also see they were off line from where they expected the ball to land. It’s irrelevant that it “didn’t come straight down”. It skimmed it clearly changing the angle it wouldnhsve landed otherwise. By rule that makes it a dead ball. But soccer rules are very flexible and change on whims.
Yup. 2 players stopped and pointed. Even a player from England stopped and looked up. Horrendous botch by the refs.Can you tell me which players immediately pointed it out? (No one actually did from every video I’ve seen)
The England player looked like a center fielder tracking a ball…never any sudden change of direction, more just reading the ball and moving to it.
Soccer could be so much better. It really needs Americans to administer it. FIFA is a corrupt disaster.Yup. 2 players stopped and pointed. Even a player from England stopped and looked up. Horrendous botch by the refs.
The Vikings were hosed.
I think this is a tough take. I mean our president called FIFA about a bad call and although I’m happy in the outcome , it’s a bad look for USSoccer could be so much better. It really needs Americans to administer it. FIFA is a corrupt disaster.