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What Would Jesus Do? said:
Many expect subpoenas and investigations, but will that actually happen? Should it?

This whole video is worth watching, but I've cued it to the last minute where they shed interesting light on this question.

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I can tell what they should do....lay their positions on key issues on the table...immigration, taxes, deficits, military, education, healthcare (pick a couple, they can't walk and chew gum at the same time), walk to the other chamber or white house and ask how we can start to work solutions.

But they won't

The day after the new house or Senate is sworn in they'll start laying the groundwork for 2028
 
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Anon1750875978 said:
What's important to citizens is a President that unites, not divides.
This current, enabling Congress is gutless in standing up to the WH.

That starts to change with the midterms.
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You are showing your lack of smarts and/or dont care and just want to lie due to tds??? The Senate controlled by Republicans has stalled President Trump on a number of major items including the save act. They are even running pro forma sessions just so Trump cant make recess appointments. Come on man.
 
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baltimorened said:
I can tell what they should do....lay their positions on key issues on the table...immigration, taxes, deficits, military, education, healthcare (pick a couple, they can't walk and chew gum at the same time), walk to the other chamber or white house and ask how we can start to work solutions.

But they won't

The day after the new house or Senate is sworn in they'll start laying the groundwork for 2028
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One would hope the powers starting next 2027 January will focus on policy and making America better for Americans

Thats wishing for too much as focusing on penis size for a couple years will be in vogue instead of good policies.
 
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Anon1750875978 said:
What's important to citizens is a President that unites, not divides.
This current, enabling Congress is gutless in standing up to the WH.

That starts to change with the midterms.
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Him without SIN

Seems like no one wants to admit they are part of the problem

They just to say they are ALL OF THE SOLUTION
 
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The main priority should be to put forth policies that help improve people’s access to the American dream. How do we handle the rise of AI in the workplace? Cost of education/housing? How do we incentivize more entrepreneurship and less corporate oligarchy? Eliminate tariffs. Take back control over war powers and the power to enter into treaties. And the like.

And yes of course oversight should perform its function of overseeing the executive branch and investigating any power abuses. But that is secondary to actual leadership. Lead by example and with visionary ideas. It would be a big mistake for the Dems to come into power and simply make everything about Trump’s mistakes. Don’t lose sight that your role is to represent your constituents primary concerns which are mostly about the pocketbook.
 
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I think a lot of what the Dems do depends on if the Rs end the filibuster. If the Rs end it, I think the Dems pass endlessly popular bills daring Trump to veto them. If the Rs keep the filibuster I could see the Dems trying to pass stuff but then giving up when the Rs block it all and the news reports it as a Dem failure instead of an R failure. Which you know they will.

And since the Rs won't end the filibuster you know which option is more likely.
 
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The most realistic outcome is that the Democrats try to put in limits to the Executive Branch's power.

Other than that, they do what they can to block any Trump initiative.
 
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GesterHawk said:
The most realistic outcome is that the Democrats try to put in limits to the Executive Branch's power.

Other than that, they do what they can to block any Trump initiative.
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Investigations. Rs will block everything so all the Dems really have are investigations.

I will say, however, that the Dems can do some interesting things with reconciliation. That can't be filibustered. I would love to see them pass tax cuts for working class people, tax hikes fimor rich people, and dare Trump to veto it.
 
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TigerGrowls said:
You are showing your lack of smarts and/or dont care and just want to lie due to tds??? The Senate controlled by Republicans has stalled President Trump on a number of major items including the save act. They are even running pro forma sessions just so Trump cant make recess appointments. Come on man.
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That Senate action you tout is primarily Dems stopping voter suppression.

You're giving Republicans, as a whole, credit for what 2/3 GOP are doing???
LOL
 
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Well, here's my prediction if the Dems win the HoR (probable) and the Senate (maybe).

First of all, Trump and every MAGA nationwide (and on here) will scream about how the election was rigged. Despite no evidence AND the Republicans being in charge of the entire government, conspiracy theories will run wild about cheating libs and election tampering. Our own @TigerGrowls will post 10 plus "smoking guns and silver bullets" a day, NONE of which will be true, but if someone tweets it growlz will believe it... All that's required is that it be pro Trump.

As for the Dems, I predict that they will collectively behave like a tiny dog with ADHD that just got a bone that's bigger than it is. They will shake, bark, piss on the floor and roll in it. And instead of trying to get anything done, they'll spend the next two years f'ing up all the good will that they got for the midterms... you know like the Republicans in the last two years. Say what you will about the Republicans, but the Dems have never seen an opportunity recently that they couldn't f up.
 
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hopefultiger13 said:
Well, here's my prediction if the Dems win the HoR (probable) and the Senate (maybe).

First of all, Trump and every MAGA nationwide (and on here) will scream about how the election was rigged. Despite no evidence AND the Republicans being in charge of the entire government, conspiracy theories will run wild about cheating libs and election tampering. Our own @TigerGrowls will post 10 plus "smoking guns and silver bullets" a day, NONE of which will be true, but if someone tweets it growlz will believe it... All that's required is that it be pro Trump.

As for the Dems, I predict that they will collectively behave like a tiny dog with ADHD that just got a bone that's bigger than it is. They will shake, bark, piss on the floor and roll in it. And instead of trying to get anything done, they'll spend the next two years f'ing up all the good will that they got for the midterms... you know like the Republicans in the last two years. Say what you will about the Republicans, but the Dems have never seen an opportunity recently that they couldn't f up.
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Yep
the 'traditional' dems are trashing the new energy behind DSA and its going to follow through the elections.
Traditional dems aren't even TRYING to ask why people are voting for policies they like. They have turned all their energy towards punching down and clutching their pearls. I expect them to crash out and get nothing done.
Maybe, they will try to impeach trump.... but only if they can get past all of the AIPAC money trying to control the narrative here in the states.
 
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firegiver said:
Yep
the 'traditional' dems are trashing the new energy behind DSA and its going to follow through the elections.
Traditional dems aren't even TRYING to ask why people are voting for policies they like. They have turned all their energy towards punching down and clutching their pearls. I expect them to crash out and get nothing done.
Maybe, they will try to impeach trump.... but only if they can get past all of the AIPAC money trying to control the narrative here in the states.
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Hopefully, they don't bother with that crap. I dislike Trump as much as anyone, but I'm not seeing the high crimes and misdemenors thing going on unless you press the insider trading angle, which would put the majority of congress in jail too. So that ain't happening.

The reality of the situation is that even if they capture both Houses of Congress, the Dems aren't going to be able to override vetos from Trump. So a LOT isn't going to get done along core Democratic policies. BUT you can do stuff for the future. Dems need to focus on bipartisan issues for the remainder of the Trump Presidency. I'd start passing bills on:

Banning members of Congress and the Execuitve Branch from trading stocks
Setting congressional term limits
Expanding federal substance use disorder treatments
Funding veterans' employment initiatives.
Ethics and Governance: Restricting policymakers from lobbying former colleagues and banning officials in all three branches of government from trading stocks.
Online Child Safety: Pushing for federal regulations, such as the Kids Online Safety Act, to protect minors from addictive algorithms and predatory behavior on big tech platforms.
Infrastructure and Technology: Maintaining the nationwide deployment of high-speed broadband and funding large-scale public works.
Labor and Wages: Boosting tax incentives for companies that hire military veterans and increasing the baseline federal minimum wage.
Criminal Justice: Curbing abuses in the Civil Asset Forfeiture system to increase transparency and raising levels of proof

Literally, the things that pop up when you google for bipartisan issues.

Now Republicans are not going to want to do these b/c Dems will get credit for them. But you are still going to get some crossover votes for it. Trump is REALLY not going to want to do it b/c it's not him passing those bills. But he's going to have two choices, neither of which is especially appealing to the Republicans... He can veto popular items, showing more of the same kind of politics that pervaded the last 2 years. That will set the stage for a big win by Dems in 2028. OR he can sign the bills, showing that the Dems CAN get things done even with Trump in the WH. That can also se the stage for a big win by Dems in 2028. So if the Dems can actually control themselves, they will be set up for a big time chance in 2028.

Will they actually do it? I wish, but I don't think so. This after all, is the party that has literally allowed the worst POTUS in the history of the US to get elected (TWICE!). I have GREAT CONFIDENCE in the Democratic Party's ability to manage to screw this up.
 
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Hopefully, they don't bother with that crap. I dislike Trump as much as anyone, but I'm not seeing the high crimes and misdemenors thing going on unless you press the insider trading angle, which would put the majority of congress in jail too. So that ain't happening.

The reality of the situation is that even if they capture both Houses of Congress, the Dems aren't going to be able to override vetos from Trump. So a LOT isn't going to get done along core Democratic policies. BUT you can do stuff for the future. Dems need to focus on bipartisan issues for the remainder of the Trump Presidency. I'd start passing bills on:

Banning members of Congress and the Execuitve Branch from trading stocks
Setting congressional term limits
Expanding federal substance use disorder treatments
Funding veterans' employment initiatives.
Ethics and Governance: Restricting policymakers from lobbying former colleagues and banning officials in all three branches of government from trading stocks.
Online Child Safety: Pushing for federal regulations, such as the Kids Online Safety Act, to protect minors from addictive algorithms and predatory behavior on big tech platforms.
Infrastructure and Technology: Maintaining the nationwide deployment of high-speed broadband and funding large-scale public works.
Labor and Wages: Boosting tax incentives for companies that hire military veterans and increasing the baseline federal minimum wage.
Criminal Justice: Curbing abuses in the Civil Asset Forfeiture system to increase transparency and raising levels of proof

Literally, the things that pop up when you google for bipartisan issues.

Now Republicans are not going to want to do these b/c Dems will get credit for them. But you are still going to get some crossover votes for it. Trump is REALLY not going to want to do it b/c it's not him passing those bills. But he's going to have two choices, neither of which is especially appealing to the Republicans... He can veto popular items, showing more of the same kind of politics that pervaded the last 2 years. That will set the stage for a big win by Dems in 2028. OR he can sign the bills, showing that the Dems CAN get things done even with Trump in the WH. That can also se the stage for a big win by Dems in 2028. So if the Dems can actually control themselves, they will be set up for a big time chance in 2028.

Will they actually do it? I wish, but I don't think so. This after all, is the party that has literally allowed the worst POTUS in the history of the US to get elected (TWICE!). I have GREAT CONFIDENCE in the Democratic Party's ability to manage to screw this up.
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your list is fine..But, I'd really like to see the Congress, no matter who controls either chamber, concentrate efforts on the really big things like healthcare, immigration, the deficit, just to name a few. We need to start someplace to get control of these things.
 
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baltimorened said:
your list is fine..But, I'd really like to see the Congress, no matter who controls either chamber, concentrate efforts on the really big things like healthcare, immigration, the deficit, just to name a few. We need to start someplace to get control of these things.
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Republicans will block all this. Rs have zero interest tackling healthcare, infrastructure, or the debt.
 
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Republicans will block all this. Rs have zero interest tackling healthcare, infrastructure, or the debt.
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maybe, maybe not. But we'll never know until somebody takes a leadership role. Right now it doesn't seem as if anyone is seriously talking about any of those programs. Republicans are mirroring the "do nothing congresses" of years past and Democrats seem interested in taxing billionaires and being against most of what trump proposes, not that anything trump proposes (after the tax act) will help a significant number of Americans...we'll see what the housing bill does - which shows that we can still have bipartisan votes on key things. If housing today, why not healthcare tomorrow? There's still hope
 
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baltimorened said:
maybe, maybe not. But we'll never know until somebody takes a leadership role. Right now it doesn't seem as if anyone is seriously talking about any of those programs. Republicans are mirroring the "do nothing congresses" of years past and Democrats seem interested in taxing billionaires and being against most of what trump proposes, not that anything trump proposes (after the tax act) will help a significant number of Americans...we'll see what the housing bill does - which shows that we can still have bipartisan votes on key things. If housing today, why not healthcare tomorrow? There's still hope
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what do you mean maybe?
They have complete control of ALL 3 BRANCHES of government. The only thing they did was kick people of healthcare and enrich themselves. Thats it, thats the grift.

But you know, at least trans folks can't go in bathrooms or play sports and women have less access to healthcare. Boy what a win, thats what some voted for.
 
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what do you mean maybe?
They have complete control of ALL 3 BRANCHES of government. The only thing they did was kick people of healthcare and enrich themselves. Thats it, thats the grift.

But you know, at least trans folks can't go in bathrooms or play sports and women have less access to healthcare. Boy what a win, thats what some voted for.
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well, being fair, the question was what would democrats do if they took over the house or Senate...that would mean the Republicans would NOT have control of all 3 . So it's not clear if they would stop everything or even if they could...so that's a maybe yes, maybe no...

But, on your second point, they did pass the BBB, the housing bill, FISA extension Act, rural broadband protection act, and page after page after page of what I would call nondescript bills.

Now we could debate forever if they Congress kicked people off healthcare and enriched themselves. Now for those who have made the most during this Congress according to AI search...."Top-performing congressional stock earners in recent sessions include Sen. Richard Blumenthal, who added roughly $80 million to his portfolio in a single year, and Rep. Nancy Pelosi, whose investments have consistently beaten the S&P 500. Other notable top traders and earners by volume include Rep. Michael McCaul and Rep. Ro Khanna.

So 75% of the big "winners' were democrats....

And, just to be factual, trans people can go in to bathrooms....and I'm not sure what you mean by women's healthcare, but assume you mean abortions...personally I'm against abortion, but if someone wants one, that's their choice. But the federal government has passed the decision making to the states. But in some instances you are correct, some states have limited access, and I would assume those that have limited access are "red".
 
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baltimorened said:
maybe, maybe not. But we'll never know until somebody takes a leadership role. Right now it doesn't seem as if anyone is seriously talking about any of those programs. Republicans are mirroring the "do nothing congresses" of years past and Democrats seem interested in taxing billionaires and being against most of what trump proposes, not that anything trump proposes (after the tax act) will help a significant number of Americans...we'll see what the housing bill does - which shows that we can still have bipartisan votes on key things. If housing today, why not healthcare tomorrow? There's still hope
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It's not maybe. Rs won't touch stuff like healthcare with a 10 foot pole.
 
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well, being fair, the question was what would democrats do if they took over the house or Senate...that would mean the Republicans would NOT have control of all 3 . So it's not clear if they would stop everything or even if they could...so that's a maybe yes, maybe no...

But, on your second point, they did pass the BBB, the housing bill, FISA extension Act, rural broadband protection act, and page after page after page of what I would call nondescript bills.

Now we could debate forever if they Congress kicked people off healthcare and enriched themselves. Now for those who have made the most during this Congress according to AI search...."Top-performing congressional stock earners in recent sessions include Sen. Richard Blumenthal, who added roughly $80 million to his portfolio in a single year, and Rep. Nancy Pelosi, whose investments have consistently beaten the S&P 500. Other notable top traders and earners by volume include Rep. Michael McCaul and Rep. Ro Khanna.

So 75% of the big "winners' were democrats....

And, just to be factual, trans people can go in to bathrooms....and I'm not sure what you mean by women's healthcare, but assume you mean abortions...personally I'm against abortion, but if someone wants one, that's their choice. But the federal government has passed the decision making to the states. But in some instances you are correct, some states have limited access, and I would assume those that have limited access are "red".
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Under Obama Dems did healthcare. And under Biden Dems did infrastructure.
 
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