FC/OT: Something James Franklin is good at.
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Honeymoon phase of anything is awesome. Happy for the VT fans who are excited. But we’ve been there.
Alexis knows how this goes.
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James is good at a great many things. He was the head coach at Penn State and he didn't get the job at Virginia Tech because he's a schlub. He's a good coach.
Good coach is why he got the job at Va Tech
Good coach is most likely why he didn't get a job at LSU, Florida, Auburn, etc.
Good coach is most likely why he didn't get a job at LSU, Florida, Auburn, etc.
He’s very good at a lot of things. Was very proud of his efforts around THON and other engagements around the program.
Honeynoon phase of anything is awesome. Happy for the VT fans who are excited. But we’ve been there.
Alexis knows how this goes.
Yes, it a shame that all they have to look forward to are multiple 10 win seasons, possible playoff wins and student athletes that stay out of trouble and graduate.
I’ll take that bet.
How much did those 10 win season make your life better? Like - at the club when interacting with OSU alums, how awesome was it to say your school had 10 wins?
If someone else does all of the in-game coaching and the preparation, they'll win games. We all know he has most of the other stuff covered.
I'm sure the 75 million dollar donation to PSU is in the mail.
Franklin had much less trouble finding a job than PSU did finding his replacement.
But PSU is experiencing "excellence at the highest level" and "the national championship our fans deserve."
Honeynoon phase of anything is awesome. Happy for the VT fans who are excited. But we’ve been there.
Alexis knows how this goes.
College football coaching hire rankings: James Franklin, Lane Kiffin lead
At least PSU replaced #1 with #6
Franklin was also very good at self promotion and losing almost every big game - he will get 8 wins at VT and hopefully one of them is over sPitt.
As PSU fans look down their noses at VT.....I'm sure a 75 million dollar donation wouldn't even move the needle for PSU football. We laugh at 75 million. (PSU would probably just add another cluster of luxury boxes).
Always be careful saying something like this. The kids Franklin recruited are little different than kids recruited all over the country, so the whole staying out of trouble thing is BS and something Franklin either has little control over or doesn't care so much about as long as players can play. Take you pick Did you ever read about what happened at Vandy in Franklins last year, or lets not forget about Keveion Keys and Jameial Lyons at PSU? Yes, those are the kind of guys Franklin was bringing into his football program.
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Wake me up when Campbell wins 13 in a season. PSU doesn't have a big game on the schedule this year....so no excuses.
Didn't Iowa State have a starting QB and others in a gambling scandal?Always be careful saying something like this. The kids Franklin recruited are little different than kids recruited all over the country, so the whole staying out of trouble thing is BS and something Franklin either has little control over or doesn't care so much about as long as players can play. Take you pick Did you ever read about what happened at Vandy in Franklins last year, or lets not forget about Keveion Keys and Jameial Lyons at PSU? Yes, those are the kind of guys Franklin was bringing into his football program.
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Franklin is a good football coach. He won a lot of games at PSU. He won big bowl games. He did well in the playoffs in 2024. He upgraded facilities and staffing at PSU. He recruited well. He was a good representative of the school. He also had his weaknesses, like everyone does. He couldn't beat OSU, which will eventually get you fired at Michigan. PSU chose to go in another direction. I supported Franklin while he was the coach PSU. I now support Campbell. I am an alum of PSU, and that's where my allegiance is. I hope PSU can build on the success that Franklin had. If they can, it will be pretty good because Franklin did good things at PSU.
Franklin does well with finances. Look at all the cash money he makes, all the while living in our heads rent-free.
I don't believe Franklin or Campbell intentionally recruit kids with noticeable questionable character. Those young men understood the guidelines at PSU and ISU; they chose to violate those guidelines.Always be careful saying something like this. The kids Franklin recruited are little different than kids recruited all over the country, so the whole staying out of trouble thing is BS and something Franklin either has little control over or doesn't care so much about as long as players can play. Take you pick Did you ever read about what happened at Vandy in Franklins last year, or lets not forget about Keveion Keys and Jameial Lyons at PSU? Yes, those are the kind of guys Franklin was bringing into his football program.
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BGJ is very good at repeating mistakes from his past. First is his tendency to overpromise and underdeliver.
During the VT Spring Game Franklin grabbed the microphone and addressed the massive crowd in Lane Stadium, vowing that the team is going to "shock the world together". Very reminiscent of his statement at PSU "The reality is that we have gone from an average... to a great football team."
During the VT Spring Game Franklin grabbed the microphone and addressed the massive crowd in Lane Stadium, vowing that the team is going to "shock the world together". Very reminiscent of his statement at PSU "The reality is that we have gone from an average... to a great football team."
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PSU also has games at Washington and against USC; I consider those to be important, if not big, games.Penn State @ Michigan isn't a big game?
My point was you might want to stay away from general statements about how good the kids are any coach recruits. Its a violent sport in my years of following it. A lot of players have violent tendencies that in many cases they may hide very well. There was this guy named OJ Simpson.
I don't think Paterno recruited kids with questionable character, yet its obvious some get through. Paterno still had Todd Hodne and Levon Chisley on his rosters. They both probably deserved the death penealty, if you believe in it.
Most decent coaches could get 10 wins in the ACC coaching a decent program. The talent level with the exception of a couple teams is not even close to the Big Ten or SEC. But no matter I expect Franklin to do well just not as well as some think.
The Jamesbots are out in force in this thread...tread lightly
Looks like the same m.o. with James ...... pointing the finger at what's wrong and needs to be fixed with the program! But poor coaching has nothing to do with winning ......
"Our luxury boxes will represent excellence at the highest level."
Thank you for what I consider to be the best paragraph I have read here in months.
I'd like to add one thing. I hope none of us ever witness the behavior of some fans (at Beaver) that occurred at the end of the Northwestern game. I don't care if the coach is Matt Campbell or Joe Doakes.
Wishing James Franklin success at Virginia Tech is not counter intuitive to being a PSU fan. No matter how much success he has at VT, he isn't being invited back to coach PSU. In addition, Kraft did not fire Franklin because he wanted to hire Campbell. Hell, Kraft didn't even have his phone number(I've got a bridge for sale).
PSU should ball out this year (I'm concerned after that) and Franklin will struggle to reach a bowl game. If all here were being honest, it might be 3 or 4 years till we know if each school made a wise decision.
In the meantime, It's apparent that Franklin has generated an incredible buzz at VT.
There are coaches who recruit on the margins. Matt Campbell nor James Franklin are not, never have been or never will be among them.
MIchigan has lost 8 or 9 games the past 2 seasons. They too have a new coach and are in transition. They are predicted to win 8.5 games...meaning most feel they will be 9-3, 8-4. Any way you slice it, they are not Ohio State or Oregon.....or even recent Indiana. In summary, If CJF were the coach, haters like you would frame the game in this manner...."if he can't beat this Michigan team, then when?"Penn State @ Michigan isn't a big game?