Daily Collegian Article On Starrocci Allegations

OldAndInTheWay

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I think people that have had concussions need to understand the anatomy of the skull. It is comprised of a series of bones and all of them should move (opening and closing) according to the rhythmic rise and fall of the spinal fluid. The bones never stay still, just ask a brain surgeon if that is true. All those bones should move in a synchronistic pattern. As an example, the parietal bones at the top of the skull should be opening at the same time that the frontal bone is opening. When a person has a concussion all of these bones can get jammed together and the opening and closing phases can either be eliminated or function opposite of what they should be doing. A trained therapist can find this this dissynchronization and then gently and almost imperceptibly manipulate these bones back into their synchronization. This is called cranial sacral therapy. Every single concussion can be helped with the trained application of this therapy.
 
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El_Jefe

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In college, I was playing pickup tackle football with friends. No pads or helmets or anything. I dove to catch a pass and my head collided with the defender’s leg. He ended up on crutches for weeks. I was knocked out and when I came to, one of my buddies was sitting on me and everyone else was huddled around me crying. “I thought we lost you, man” was the first thing I remember hearing anyone say to me. Ambulance soon arrived, in which I vomited violently. The dude sitting on me was doing so to prevent my unconscious flailing from hurting myself. I was also foaming at the mouth, I later learned. I often wonder how much how this experience has affected me permanently.
10/10 description of White Claw effects.
 

dicemen99

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I think people that have had concussions need to understand the anatomy of the skull. It is comprised of a series of bones and all of them should move (opening and closing) according to the rhythmic rise and fall of the spinal fluid. The bones never stay still, just ask a brain surgeon if that is true. All those bones should move in a synchronistic pattern. As an example, the parietal bones at the top of the skull should be opening at the same time that the frontal bone is opening. When a person has a concussion all of these bones can get jammed together and the opening and closing phases can either be eliminated or function opposite of what they should be doing. A trained therapist can find this this dissynchronization and then gently and almost imperceptibly manipulate these bones back into their synchronization. This is called cranial sacral therapy. Every single concussion can be helped with the trained application of this therapy.
The placebo effect is a real thing.
 

WEAREPSU_LI

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The placebo effect is a real thing.
CST sounds like quackery to me. Also, his comment almost minimizes the trauma of what a concussion is.

"For musculoskeletal disorders, the qualitative and quantitative synthesis suggested that CST produces no statistically significant or clinically relevant changes in pain and/or disability/impact in patients with headache disorders, neck pain, low back pain, pelvic girdle pain, or fibromyalgia. For non-musculoskeletal disorders, the qualitative and quantitative synthesis showed that CST was not effective for managing infant colic, preterm infants, cerebral palsy, or visual function deficits. Conclusions: The qualitative and quantitative synthesis of the evidence suggest that CST produces no benefits in any of the musculoskeletal or non-musculoskeletal conditions assessed. Two RCTs suggested statistically significant benefits of CST in children. However, both studies are seriously flawed, and their findings are thus likely to be false positive."

 

SleepyLion

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In college, I was playing pickup tackle football with friends. No pads or helmets or anything. I dove to catch a pass and my head collided with the defender’s leg. He ended up on crutches for weeks. I was knocked out and when I came to, one of my buddies was sitting on me and everyone else was huddled around me crying. “I thought we lost you, man” was the first thing I remember hearing anyone say to me. Ambulance soon arrived, in which I vomited violently. The dude sitting on me was doing so to prevent my unconscious flailing from hurting myself. I was also foaming at the mouth, I later learned. I often wonder how much how this experience has affected me permanently.
I wish I had an excuse like that after I lost a chess game.
 
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Locopsu

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In college, I was playing pickup tackle football with friends. No pads or helmets or anything. I dove to catch a pass and my head collided with the defender’s leg. He ended up on crutches for weeks. I was knocked out and when I came to, one of my buddies was sitting on me and everyone else was huddled around me crying. “I thought we lost you, man” was the first thing I remember hearing anyone say to me. Ambulance soon arrived, in which I vomited violently. The dude sitting on me was doing so to prevent my unconscious flailing from hurting myself. I was also foaming at the mouth, I later learned. I often wonder how much how this experience has affected me permanently.
Not sure if concussed, I was warming up for a softball game in Fairmount Park, in early 1990’s. I saw dark clouds and lightning over city and said let’s go in. I awoke in hospital, and later learned I could not walk, my legs were numb from waist down, no recollection of any of the time from strike to waking up in hospital. I had a concussion but not severe, I landed on my shoulder and had a couple stitches where my glasses cut my face. A week later I lost use of my right arm, which took a year plus to fully recover. Shoulder was in intense paid, no meds. First good sleep I had was in MRI of arm and shoulder. Learned to sleep on back with pillows to prevent rolling. I’ve tried using it as an excuse but no one buys it.
 
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dicemen99

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CST sounds like quackery to me. Also, his comment almost minimizes the trauma of what a concussion is.

"For musculoskeletal disorders, the qualitative and quantitative synthesis suggested that CST produces no statistically significant or clinically relevant changes in pain and/or disability/impact in patients with headache disorders, neck pain, low back pain, pelvic girdle pain, or fibromyalgia. For non-musculoskeletal disorders, the qualitative and quantitative synthesis showed that CST was not effective for managing infant colic, preterm infants, cerebral palsy, or visual function deficits. Conclusions: The qualitative and quantitative synthesis of the evidence suggest that CST produces no benefits in any of the musculoskeletal or non-musculoskeletal conditions assessed. Two RCTs suggested statistically significant benefits of CST in children. However, both studies are seriously flawed, and their findings are thus likely to be false positive."

Agreed. I can give you two (sugar) pills that will cure some concussion symptoms for some people as well. As well as the symptoms of a myriad of other ailments.
 
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OldAndInTheWay

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CST sounds like quackery to me. Also, his comment almost minimizes the trauma of what a concussion is.

"For musculoskeletal disorders, the qualitative and quantitative synthesis suggested that CST produces no statistically significant or clinically relevant changes in pain and/or disability/impact in patients with headache disorders, neck pain, low back pain, pelvic girdle pain, or fibromyalgia. For non-musculoskeletal disorders, the qualitative and quantitative synthesis showed that CST was not effective for managing infant colic, preterm infants, cerebral palsy, or visual function deficits. Conclusions: The qualitative and quantitative synthesis of the evidence suggest that CST produces no benefits in any of the musculoskeletal or non-musculoskeletal conditions assessed. Two RCTs suggested statistically significant benefits of CST in children. However, both studies are seriously flawed, and their findings are thus likely to be false positive."

Your uninformed response seems to show the limit of relying on AI searches for valid information. I, on the other hand, have literally thousands of hours of cranial sacral therapy experiences with classroom study, research, teaching, practice, and completing treatments on hundreds of individuals. I have seen miraculous changes with concussions, migraines, TMJ, tinnitus, and all types brain/skull problems with the use an application of cranial sacral treatments.
 
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OldAndInTheWay

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Agreed. I can give you two (sugar) pills that will cure some concussion symptoms for some people as well. As well as the symptoms of a myriad of other ailments.
Absolutely the placebo effect is real. But that does not in any way mean that cranial sacral therapy itself is not valid or effective.