FORE! The 108th PGA Championship @ Aronimink GC

lakelawyerheel

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Nice third place finish for Ben Griffin at Doral. Boring tournament, though. I have nothing against Cam Young, but he does nothing for me. He's just not interesting.
Cam does have quite a bit of the milquetoast country club air about him that golf was full of back in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s
 

camelheelfan

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Cam does have quite a bit of the milquetoast country club air about him that golf was full of back in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s
He's just largely expressionless, quiet, and never has anything interesting to say.

As much as I can't stand him the tour needs a guy like Bryson back in the fold. He's a character.

Cam Young, to me, is a top four player in the world right now (Scottie, Rory, Matty Fitz, Cam).
 

Mr Winterville

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He's just largely expressionless, quiet, and never has anything interesting to say.

As much as I can't stand him the tour needs a guy like Bryson back in the fold. He's a character.

Cam Young, to me, is a top four player in the world right now (Scottie, Rory, Matty Fitz, Cam).

"Expressionless and quiet"... Definitely. "Never has anything interesting to say"... I have to disagree there. I watched a lot of his media on Players and Masters week and despite his heart rate probably never breaking 50bpm (ever), there's much more to him than too many sponsorships on his wardrobe. He's sharp and articulate.

He's also exactly the kind of guy who we'll be wanting to trot out in Ireland next year for the Ryder Cup. While someone like Bryson will be seeing how much of his foot he can fit in his mouth, Cam Young will probably be putting up 4+ points for the US.
 

lakelawyerheel

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He's just largely expressionless, quiet, and never has anything interesting to say.

As much as I can't stand him the tour needs a guy like Bryson back in the fold. He's a character.

Cam Young, to me, is a top four player in the world right now (Scottie, Rory, Matty Fitz, Cam).
Agree with all statements
 

MarkCPhi

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The LIV experiment certainly has its issues, and I've never been a fan of that entity because of the Saudi money behind it. And that's the big issue. LIv was all about the cash, as it had no tradition.


Allowing LIV players to resume on the long established tours makes perfect business sense.

Eventually, we will be past the LIV era.

Looking ahead, the Fitzpatrick brothers are going to inject some fantastic spice into Ryder Cup. Matt's antics at Hilton Head caught my attention, and he went from being just another Euro to a Euro I'd like to see lose his ball on every water hole he plays.

Then Matt won in New Orleans with his brother, Alex, and i got the sense that that would be a Ryder Cup pairing USA fans will have to endure. With Alex on the verge of winning today in Charlotte, the emergence of the Fitzpatrick Brothers, as much as I don't like them, is a damn good thing for golf. They will be the new Seve/Sergio of that team, and whether we know it now or not, we will love hating them.

As for Cam Young, he's not a great interview, but his golf is red hot these days. USA needs him to play at the elite level more often than not. Whether this is just one hot season remains to be seen.
 

MarkCPhi

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Alex Fitz is 3 over thru 4.

Awesome. ( I know. Bad form and all that.)

Can't help it.

And as i say, the little nuisance birdies #5. He's in thorn mode, I suspect.
 
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camelheelfan

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"Expressionless and quiet"... Definitely. "Never has anything interesting to say"... I have to disagree there. I watched a lot of his media on Players and Masters week and despite his heart rate probably never breaking 50bpm (ever), there's much more to him than too many sponsorships on his wardrobe. He's sharp and articulate.

He's also exactly the kind of guy who we'll be wanting to trot out in Ireland next year for the Ryder Cup. While someone like Bryson will be seeing how much of his foot he can fit in his mouth, Cam Young will probably be putting up 4+ points for the US.
Oh, I 100% want him on the next Ryder Cup team. He was our best player at Bethpage. I was there!
 

ronjon

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PGA has been a fun watch so far. The course has some teeth with tough greens and there is some decent wind. Hope the wind stays up all week.
 

lakelawyerheel

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Higgo with a 2 stroke penalty for being late to the tee box. Always a great way to start a major, LOL.

He was on the putting green.
 
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lakelawyerheel

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Nice to see Jordan playing well.

To be one major short of the career Grand Slam....having the PGA as the missing trophy is odd given its overall significantly less difficult when compared to Augusta, the US Open, and the Open
 
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Chamtrain

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Following up on my post a month or so ago about my boss flying in with some of his buddies for a weekend of golf. They got in Thursday and played Duke that day. Apparently it's not in good shape right now, they were meh about it. Drought is doing a number on most courses.

On Friday I got us on Lonnie, I emailed them a month ago and asked if they would set us up with a tee time, you all know it's impossible to book a round as the general public there. They accommodated us, just wanted it to be paid up front. Was in really good shape, had a very fun day. They wanted to keep playing so I got them on at The Preserve to play 18 more.

Today we did The Preserve at 8am followed by Chapel Ridge around 1:30. They had a cart barn fire this past Saturday that burned up their entire fleet, apparently a lithium battery issue. Already have a full new fleet in action and the course (Chapel Ridge) was really in the best shape I've seen it in quite some time.

Preserve will get there eventually but right now has a ton of POA on the greens and fairways are very thin due to no rain.

Tomorrow we play 12 Oaks, I'm exhausted but it's been very fun. All these guys are from the Boston area so very impressed with the courses and cost of play, we are very lucky in NC.
 

MarkCPhi

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If a packed leaderboard is your thing, today's final round at The Mink is your Huckleberry.

A compelling mixture of expected participants and less heralded players provide potential for keen drama.

Someone will emerge, and as always, my hope is the tournament is won, rather than someone faltering to lose.
 

Peppersthebeast

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Didn’t realize Smalley went to dook. Was going to pull for him as a native North Carolinian but not sure I can since finding out he’s a Blue Devil.
 

PINEHEEL

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Following up on my post a month or so ago about my boss flying in with some of his buddies for a weekend of golf. They got in Thursday and played Duke that day. Apparently it's not in good shape right now, they were meh about it. Drought is doing a number on most courses.

On Friday I got us on Lonnie, I emailed them a month ago and asked if they would set us up with a tee time, you all know it's impossible to book a round as the general public there. They accommodated us, just wanted it to be paid up front. Was in really good shape, had a very fun day. They wanted to keep playing so I got them on at The Preserve to play 18 more.

Today we did The Preserve at 8am followed by Chapel Ridge around 1:30. They had a cart barn fire this past Saturday that burned up their entire fleet, apparently a lithium battery issue. Already have a full new fleet in action and the course (Chapel Ridge) was really in the best shape I've seen it in quite some time.

Preserve will get there eventually but right now has a ton of POA on the greens and fairways are very thin due to no rain.

Tomorrow we play 12 Oaks, I'm exhausted but it's been very fun. All these guys are from the Boston area so very impressed with the courses and cost of play, we are very lucky in NC.

Interesting to hear your report from 12 Oaks since you were already exhausted. 12 Oaks is hard as hell.

I played Chapel Ridge two weeks ago and agree it was in pretty good shape. Tee boxes were terrible (not a big deal) and the bunkers were still a work in progress but the crew was working in them on a lot of holes so I imagine they'll be playable soon. So many new homes have gone up out there since I last played it a year ago. There were a good amount of people on the course on a Wednesday afternoon so hopefully they'll have the residents and revenue to keep the place nice going forward. It's always been one of the best public course in the Triangle when it's in good shape.
 

PINEHEEL

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All the golf talk stay on the other site?

They have buried the ZZL over here, so it's impossible to find unless you know it exists and go looking for it. No one who joins this site as a new member will even know it exists. And obviously some people didn't migrate over after the switch, so we lost all of them.

But the biggest issue is there aren't any free basketball and football boards over here, which brought a lot of people to the ZZL. Even though this board is free, they've lost a lot of traffic from their free football and basketball boards which is what consistently brought people to the site.
 
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Chamtrain

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Interesting to hear your report from 12 Oaks since you were already exhausted. 12 Oaks is hard as hell.

I played Chapel Ridge two weeks ago and agree it was in pretty good shape. Tee boxes were terrible (not a big deal) and the bunkers were still a work in progress but the crew was working in them on a lot of holes so I imagine they'll be playable soon. So many new homes have gone up out there since I last played it a year ago. There were a good amount of people on the course on a Wednesday afternoon so hopefully they'll have the residents and revenue to keep the place nice going forward. It's always been one of the best public course in the Triangle when it's in good shape.

12 Oaks absolutely beat us all up. There are maybe 3 easy holes in the full 18. With this lack of rain the greens were firm/fast and wouldn't hold anything. IMO it's the hardest course in the triangle by a pretty wide margin, of course playing it cracked out after two days of drinking/lots of golf didn't help. I'm playing it again in 2 weeks so we'll see how much of my score was due to feeling like a crack head.

They have finished almost all of the bunkers at Chapel Ridge, very nice white fluffy sand.
 
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Uncmba2

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It appears the PGA Tour is settling into a track one and track two schedule. Track one would be 120 golfers with 16 elevated events, the Majors, and 3 playoff events for 23 total. Track 2 would be 140 man fields, but the details are a little fuzzier.
 

PINEHEEL

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It appears the PGA Tour is settling into a track one and track two schedule. Track one would be 120 golfers with 16 elevated events, the Majors, and 3 playoff events for 23 total. Track 2 would be 140 man fields, but the details are a little fuzzier.

I haven't read anything on it yet, but based on your brief summary, I like it. 120 with 16 events feels like a good, fair number. I could even be talked into less than 16 if they had full participation in, say, 12 quality events.

I don't really care about Track 2, and I wish the Tour wouldn't try so hard to placate the "mules." I would rather see something creative, like two-round "Monday Q's" for five spots to get into those elevated events. IMO that would be a more compelling television product than watching a watered down field at a Barracuda Championship.

Track 2 isn't going to generate a profit for the Tour, so I don't understand the purpose. They could generate a profit by playing them in golf-starved cities or cool venues, but they'll just keep playing them in Des Moines and Greensboro instead.
 

Uncmba2

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PGA Tour’s changing model comes into focus

The PGA Tour’s plan for major change around the 2028 season is coming into focus. In a meeting at the Truist Championship in Charlotte two weeks ago, the tour presented players with the concept of a plan that would include two tiers, or “tracks,” as CEO Brian Rolapp mentioned earlier this year.

In the plan presented to players, according to sources with knowledge of the meeting, the first track would include 23 elevated tournaments: 16 regular season PGA Tour events, three FedExCup Playoff events and then four majors. The regular-season tournaments would be expected to have 120-man fields under the plan, the people said.

Included in that first track are expected to be at least three new markets. Rolapp has talked at length about the need to hit bigger markets, and sources said Boston, Philadelphia, Denver, Nashville and San Francisco have been under consideration. SBJ last week reported on additional interest from the tour in the Seattle market.
Meanwhile, the PGA Tour is still in the process of mapping out its 2027 schedule. As of Tuesday, 13 tournaments (majors included) have had their dates confirmed for the 2027 season through the PGA Championship in May. Aside from exiting Hawaii altogether, the calendar looks mostly similar to 2026.

The biggest potential change could come to the tour’s Florida swing. Currently, no dates have been confirmed for the Arnold Palmer Invitational, Cadillac Championship, Cognizant Classic or Valspar Championship, all tournaments in Florida in the spring.