Cam does have quite a bit of the milquetoast country club air about him that golf was full of back in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s
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He's just largely expressionless, quiet, and never has anything interesting to say.
As much as I can't stand him the tour needs a guy like Bryson back in the fold. He's a character.
Cam Young, to me, is a top four player in the world right now (Scottie, Rory, Matty Fitz, Cam).
"Expressionless and quiet"... Definitely. "Never has anything interesting to say"... I have to disagree there. I watched a lot of his media on Players and Masters week and despite his heart rate probably never breaking 50bpm (ever), there's much more to him than too many sponsorships on his wardrobe. He's sharp and articulate.
He's also exactly the kind of guy who we'll be wanting to trot out in Ireland next year for the Ryder Cup. While someone like Bryson will be seeing how much of his foot he can fit in his mouth, Cam Young will probably be putting up 4+ points for the US.
The LIV experiment certainly has its issues, and I've never been a fan of that entity because of the Saudi money behind it. And that's the big issue. LIv was all about the cash, as it had no tradition.
Allowing LIV players to resume on the long established tours makes perfect business sense.
Eventually, we will be past the LIV era.
Looking ahead, the Fitzpatrick brothers are going to inject some fantastic spice into Ryder Cup. Matt's antics at Hilton Head caught my attention, and he went from being just another Euro to a Euro I'd like to see lose his ball on every water hole he plays.
Then Matt won in New Orleans with his brother, Alex, and i got the sense that that would be a Ryder Cup pairing USA fans will have to endure. With Alex on the verge of winning today in Charlotte, the emergence of the Fitzpatrick Brothers, as much as I don't like them, is a damn good thing for golf. They will be the new Seve/Sergio of that team, and whether we know it now or not, we will love hating them.
As for Cam Young, he's not a great interview, but his golf is red hot these days. USA needs him to play at the elite level more often than not. Whether this is just one hot season remains to be seen.
Allowing LIV players to resume on the long established tours makes perfect business sense.
Eventually, we will be past the LIV era.
Looking ahead, the Fitzpatrick brothers are going to inject some fantastic spice into Ryder Cup. Matt's antics at Hilton Head caught my attention, and he went from being just another Euro to a Euro I'd like to see lose his ball on every water hole he plays.
Then Matt won in New Orleans with his brother, Alex, and i got the sense that that would be a Ryder Cup pairing USA fans will have to endure. With Alex on the verge of winning today in Charlotte, the emergence of the Fitzpatrick Brothers, as much as I don't like them, is a damn good thing for golf. They will be the new Seve/Sergio of that team, and whether we know it now or not, we will love hating them.
As for Cam Young, he's not a great interview, but his golf is red hot these days. USA needs him to play at the elite level more often than not. Whether this is just one hot season remains to be seen.
Oh, I 100% want him on the next Ryder Cup team. He was our best player at Bethpage. I was there!
nice to see some old faces! Heel Alum formerly known as getwiggywithit
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The Mink appears to be playing much harder than anticipated. Quite a nice surprise!
Following up on my post a month or so ago about my boss flying in with some of his buddies for a weekend of golf. They got in Thursday and played Duke that day. Apparently it's not in good shape right now, they were meh about it. Drought is doing a number on most courses.
On Friday I got us on Lonnie, I emailed them a month ago and asked if they would set us up with a tee time, you all know it's impossible to book a round as the general public there. They accommodated us, just wanted it to be paid up front. Was in really good shape, had a very fun day. They wanted to keep playing so I got them on at The Preserve to play 18 more.
Today we did The Preserve at 8am followed by Chapel Ridge around 1:30. They had a cart barn fire this past Saturday that burned up their entire fleet, apparently a lithium battery issue. Already have a full new fleet in action and the course (Chapel Ridge) was really in the best shape I've seen it in quite some time.
Preserve will get there eventually but right now has a ton of POA on the greens and fairways are very thin due to no rain.
Tomorrow we play 12 Oaks, I'm exhausted but it's been very fun. All these guys are from the Boston area so very impressed with the courses and cost of play, we are very lucky in NC.
On Friday I got us on Lonnie, I emailed them a month ago and asked if they would set us up with a tee time, you all know it's impossible to book a round as the general public there. They accommodated us, just wanted it to be paid up front. Was in really good shape, had a very fun day. They wanted to keep playing so I got them on at The Preserve to play 18 more.
Today we did The Preserve at 8am followed by Chapel Ridge around 1:30. They had a cart barn fire this past Saturday that burned up their entire fleet, apparently a lithium battery issue. Already have a full new fleet in action and the course (Chapel Ridge) was really in the best shape I've seen it in quite some time.
Preserve will get there eventually but right now has a ton of POA on the greens and fairways are very thin due to no rain.
Tomorrow we play 12 Oaks, I'm exhausted but it's been very fun. All these guys are from the Boston area so very impressed with the courses and cost of play, we are very lucky in NC.
If a packed leaderboard is your thing, today's final round at The Mink is your Huckleberry.
A compelling mixture of expected participants and less heralded players provide potential for keen drama.
Someone will emerge, and as always, my hope is the tournament is won, rather than someone faltering to lose.
A compelling mixture of expected participants and less heralded players provide potential for keen drama.
Someone will emerge, and as always, my hope is the tournament is won, rather than someone faltering to lose.
Didn’t realize Smalley went to dook. Was going to pull for him as a native North Carolinian but not sure I can since finding out he’s a Blue Devil.
Wondering same thing. This particular thread not like it used to be, but at least we are still going. Schedule change yesterday caused me to miss the entire final round.
Interesting to hear your report from 12 Oaks since you were already exhausted. 12 Oaks is hard as hell.
I played Chapel Ridge two weeks ago and agree it was in pretty good shape. Tee boxes were terrible (not a big deal) and the bunkers were still a work in progress but the crew was working in them on a lot of holes so I imagine they'll be playable soon. So many new homes have gone up out there since I last played it a year ago. There were a good amount of people on the course on a Wednesday afternoon so hopefully they'll have the residents and revenue to keep the place nice going forward. It's always been one of the best public course in the Triangle when it's in good shape.
They have buried the ZZL over here, so it's impossible to find unless you know it exists and go looking for it. No one who joins this site as a new member will even know it exists. And obviously some people didn't migrate over after the switch, so we lost all of them.
But the biggest issue is there aren't any free basketball and football boards over here, which brought a lot of people to the ZZL. Even though this board is free, they've lost a lot of traffic from their free football and basketball boards which is what consistently brought people to the site.
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12 Oaks absolutely beat us all up. There are maybe 3 easy holes in the full 18. With this lack of rain the greens were firm/fast and wouldn't hold anything. IMO it's the hardest course in the triangle by a pretty wide margin, of course playing it cracked out after two days of drinking/lots of golf didn't help. I'm playing it again in 2 weeks so we'll see how much of my score was due to feeling like a crack head.
They have finished almost all of the bunkers at Chapel Ridge, very nice white fluffy sand.
I haven't read anything on it yet, but based on your brief summary, I like it. 120 with 16 events feels like a good, fair number. I could even be talked into less than 16 if they had full participation in, say, 12 quality events.
I don't really care about Track 2, and I wish the Tour wouldn't try so hard to placate the "mules." I would rather see something creative, like two-round "Monday Q's" for five spots to get into those elevated events. IMO that would be a more compelling television product than watching a watered down field at a Barracuda Championship.
Track 2 isn't going to generate a profit for the Tour, so I don't understand the purpose. They could generate a profit by playing them in golf-starved cities or cool venues, but they'll just keep playing them in Des Moines and Greensboro instead.
PGA Tour’s changing model comes into focus
The PGA Tour’s plan for major change around the 2028 season is coming into focus. In a meeting at the Truist Championship in Charlotte two weeks ago, the tour presented players with the concept of a plan that would include two tiers, or “tracks,” as CEO Brian Rolapp mentioned earlier this year.
In the plan presented to players, according to sources with knowledge of the meeting, the first track would include 23 elevated tournaments: 16 regular season PGA Tour events, three FedExCup Playoff events and then four majors. The regular-season tournaments would be expected to have 120-man fields under the plan, the people said.
Included in that first track are expected to be at least three new markets. Rolapp has talked at length about the need to hit bigger markets, and sources said Boston, Philadelphia, Denver, Nashville and San Francisco have been under consideration. SBJ last week reported on additional interest from the tour in the Seattle market.
Meanwhile, the PGA Tour is still in the process of mapping out its 2027 schedule. As of Tuesday, 13 tournaments (majors included) have had their dates confirmed for the 2027 season through the PGA Championship in May. Aside from exiting Hawaii altogether, the calendar looks mostly similar to 2026.
The biggest potential change could come to the tour’s Florida swing. Currently, no dates have been confirmed for the Arnold Palmer Invitational, Cadillac Championship, Cognizant Classic or Valspar Championship, all tournaments in Florida in the spring.
The PGA Tour’s plan for major change around the 2028 season is coming into focus. In a meeting at the Truist Championship in Charlotte two weeks ago, the tour presented players with the concept of a plan that would include two tiers, or “tracks,” as CEO Brian Rolapp mentioned earlier this year.
In the plan presented to players, according to sources with knowledge of the meeting, the first track would include 23 elevated tournaments: 16 regular season PGA Tour events, three FedExCup Playoff events and then four majors. The regular-season tournaments would be expected to have 120-man fields under the plan, the people said.
Included in that first track are expected to be at least three new markets. Rolapp has talked at length about the need to hit bigger markets, and sources said Boston, Philadelphia, Denver, Nashville and San Francisco have been under consideration. SBJ last week reported on additional interest from the tour in the Seattle market.
Meanwhile, the PGA Tour is still in the process of mapping out its 2027 schedule. As of Tuesday, 13 tournaments (majors included) have had their dates confirmed for the 2027 season through the PGA Championship in May. Aside from exiting Hawaii altogether, the calendar looks mostly similar to 2026.
The biggest potential change could come to the tour’s Florida swing. Currently, no dates have been confirmed for the Arnold Palmer Invitational, Cadillac Championship, Cognizant Classic or Valspar Championship, all tournaments in Florida in the spring.
Played 12 Oaks again today, while it didn't eat me up like it did last time it was still a grind. I was trying to think about what makes it so tough, I think it's the greens. They are all either protected by severe danger (cliffs/sand/water etc) or are turtle shells with extreme dropoffs. It's easy for you to land your ball in the wrong part of a green and end up 20 yards off. A good amount of those greens have little plateaus on them as well, two putts are not a given.
@LeoBloom was out there as well. What did you think?
@LeoBloom was out there as well. What did you think?
Great putt! Came to post a recap of it all. Wheels absolutely came off for the Heels down the stretch. In the NCAAs you have four rounds to determine the individual champion, and then the top 8 team scores from those four days advance to the match play finals on Tuesday and Wednesday. For those unfamiliar with college golf, you send out five players every day and the top four scores count as your total for each day.
Heels were in pretty good shape heading into the final round in what has been a rebuilding year with a lot of young talent and some underperforming veterans. They were in 7th, and about six strokes clear of 9th. I'm having to do this by memory because the scores have already been cleared and I can't seem to find them. Heels were starting their final round on the back nine, which was important to note because they have absolutely sucked on holes 7-9 the whole tournament. They needed to start out hot and they didn't. True to form, they were really bleeding coming down the stretch into that difficult 7-9 stretch and on the outside looking in with only Bertagnole left on the course. He made a clutch 10-12 footer on 9 to tie us for 8th place and get us in a 4 teams for 2 spot playoff.
For the playoff, all five players on each team play a different hole. They add up all the scores (none dropped) and the two lowest move on. I'm not going to name him because college golf is still very much an amateur sport so no need to throw people under the bus, but we put our weakest golfer that we took on a simple 165 yard Par 3 hole. He chunked one about 115 yards right into the water. Made a double bogey, everyone else on the team made par on their respective holes, and UNC missed getting the final spot by two. Real bummer to have it end that way. Wheels absolutely came off down the stretch.
The team shot a counting score +4 for the day, after starting the day at -6.
Preston Stout from OKC won the individual title. You'll see him winning on Tour and likely majors one day. Jackson Koivun finished 11th which I'm sure was a huge disappointment for the best amateur in a long time, but Auburn is the 1 seed heading into match play so he has a chance to get another Natty.
That course is bear. Beautiful course, but very tough. As you said the greens are a challenge. Prior course knowledge is key too. It had been years since I played it and had forgotten some of the trickier holes where you shouldn’t hit driver, etc.
Guys scambling every hole....looks absolutely brutal out at Shinnecock. And I love it.
Damn the egos of the players, let the greens GO! LOL Let's see absolute carnage!
I'm typically not the "embarrass the players" kind of fan except for the US Open. The US Open is just different. And it should be. And a US Open course should destroy a field.
#2 coming back in 2029. Just once, I would like to see them play #2 at it's fullest brutality. Ie., a dry hot Pinehurst summer that leaves the course so baked its like playing on concrete and just walking from the clubhouse to the first tee leaves you drenched in sweat. Bryson's year was close....but that still wasn't the full Pinehurst hell experience all of us native North Carolinians know that the weather and that course could bring.
Damn the egos of the players, let the greens GO! LOL Let's see absolute carnage!
I'm typically not the "embarrass the players" kind of fan except for the US Open. The US Open is just different. And it should be. And a US Open course should destroy a field.
#2 coming back in 2029. Just once, I would like to see them play #2 at it's fullest brutality. Ie., a dry hot Pinehurst summer that leaves the course so baked its like playing on concrete and just walking from the clubhouse to the first tee leaves you drenched in sweat. Bryson's year was close....but that still wasn't the full Pinehurst hell experience all of us native North Carolinians know that the weather and that course could bring.
My roommate from UNC lives out there and is a member, and he said they do very well in matches with others clubs to the point that they get accused of collective sand bagging a lot. He said it's hard for other clubs to play 12 Oaks without the course knowledge, and then their handicaps just travel very well because the course rating probably needs adjusting.
The USGA really caught a bad break yesterday with the wind that never materialized. Wyndham was playing an entirely different course in the afternoon than Rory was in the morning.
Gotta crank this thing up tomorrow.
The only bad thing about LIV inevitably going out of business is that it means Wyndham Clark can never go there and disappear from my consciousness on a regular basis.
Yep, Wyndham played a course that, without the wind, lacked the teeth that a US Open course demands because the USGA had dialed everything else back so (relatively) much. He and a small handful of others got an advantage that the vast majority of the field did not enjoy.
Of course, he still had to perform...and he did.
Just let go of the reins and let this course eat their lunch.
This is the US Open. Let the course eat.
Ok...normally I don't give a f about what guys are wearing. But just started watching the featured coverage on the USGA site and Hovland has on a pair of pants that are either "reverse jail inmate" or "reverse zebra." Looks ridiculous, LOL
So it appears that Wyndham is trying to do what Rory did at the Masters....win it on Thursday and Friday and somehow survive the weekend. While Wyndham is obviously immensely talented, I do not expect in any way, shape, or form that he can do this for four straight days. Will be interesting to see this play out.
Wyndham lead has grown from 2 to 4 to now 6, cause everyone else under par went backwards today. Scottie getting to -1 and into the final group should make things interesting. But if Wyndham shoots 71 or better I doubt Scottie will catch him.
Will be interesting. Given the size of the lead, having Scottie in the final group is probably the only guy that can make him legit nervous
Scottie doesn’t charge…but, like Tiger, he brings a pressure that can be oppressive to the opponent. Grind par, grind par, drop an approach shot to 2 feet for birdie, find trouble then scramble for par like no one sense Tiger, grind grind grind. Shot here, shot there and we got a ballgame
And no way Wyndham can keep this putting going. He’s been ridiculous from 5-10 feet given that this is the US Open