I made this point a few weeks ago on this board and was heavily criticized, especially by the resident Braves fans on the board. Maddux (and Glavine) made careers out of living outside the strike zone. Hall of Famers for sure, but let’s not pretend they had the same strike zones as everyone else.Greg Maddux must hold the record for obvious balls called strikes by the home plate umpire.
I mentioned this to a friend of mine who was a scout for the NY Mets. He didn't deny it. But he said "Maddux always gets those calls" - like it was ok.
Bring on ABS. I would think the players would be all for it.
So why do you think Maddux and Glavine were didn’t have the same strike zone?I made this point a few weeks ago on this board and was heavily criticized, especially by the resident Braves fans on the board. Maddux (and Glavine) made careers out of living outside the strike zone. Hall of Famers for sure, but let’s not pretend they had the same strike zones as everyone else.
And that's the kicker - would they have been Hall of Famers if they didn't enjoy the special strike zone. Probably not.I made this point a few weeks ago on this board and was heavily criticized, especially by the resident Braves fans on the board. Maddux (and Glavine) made careers out of living outside the strike zone. Hall of Famers for sure, but let’s not pretend they had the same strike zones as everyone else.
Check out the strikeout of Brady Anderson by Greg Maddox during an interleague game. Strike 2 was at least 6 inches off the plate. Brady complained and Joe West just looked at hime and smiled(dont you show me up!) Next pitch was a foot and a half off the plate and Cowboy Joe rung him up. Needless to say Brady got tossed. That was the most egregious call I ever saw and I was not an Orioles fan!!!Greg Maddux must hold the record for obvious balls called strikes by the home plate umpire.
I mentioned this to a friend of mine who was a scout for the NY Mets. He didn't deny it. But he said "Maddux always gets those calls" - like it was ok.
Bring on ABS. I would think the players would be all for it.
So what is your theory about Maddux's strike zone?Check out the strikeout of Brady Anderson by Greg Maddox during an interleague game. Strike 2 was at least 6 inches off the plate. Brady complained and Joe West just looked at hime and smiled(dont you show me up!) Next pitch was a foot and a half off the plate and Cowboy Joe rung him up. Needless to say Brady got tossed. That was the most egregious call I ever saw and I was not an Orioles fan!!!
Cleveland Guardians (Indians). Many people in Cleveland still believe that the 1995 World Series between Atlanta and Cleveland was rigged. Umps were calling strikes on pitches 6-8 inches off the corner.I made this point a few weeks ago on this board and was heavily criticized, especially by the resident Braves fans on the board. Maddux (and Glavine) made careers out of living outside the strike zone. Hall of Famers for sure, but let’s not pretend they had the same strike zones as everyone else.
It was a dynamic and undulating strike zone. I'm sure there was some quantum physics involved, because after all, we know that the umpires were rocket scientists. Bring on the ABS!!!So what is your theory about Maddux's strike zone?
So you're a disgruntled Indians fan? That makes sense.Cleveland Guardians (Indians). Many people in Cleveland still believe that the 1995 World Series between Atlanta and Cleveland was rigged. Umps were calling strikes on pitches 6-8 inches off the corner.
Unless you're able to provide definitive video evidence to support your allegation it never happened.Check out the strikeout of Brady Anderson by Greg Maddox during an interleague game. Strike 2 was at least 6 inches off the plate. Brady complained and Joe West just looked at hime and smiled(dont you show me up!) Next pitch was a foot and a half off the plate and Cowboy Joe rung him up. Needless to say Brady got tossed. That was the most egregious call I ever saw and I was not an Orioles fan!!!
No, actually the Indians consistently punch above their weight. Over 60 tears of watching sports I only thought one matchup was rigged, the '95 Series. I am far from alone in that belief.So you're a disgruntled Indians fan? That makes sense.
My unscientific theory: Early in their careers, Maddux and Glavine were particularly adept at hitting the corners. They developed reputations for having great command, and by the mid-90s, they began pushing the boundaries, and the NL umps went along. I was in the Air Force living in Alabama during this time, and watched a lot of Braves games. I’m not a Braves hater, nor a disgruntled Pirates or Phillies fan. I just know what I was watching. Again, I acknowledge they were both great pitchers. I also strongly feel they had larger strike zones.So why do you think Maddux and Glavine were didn’t have the same strike zone?
That would explain your miserable existence.. @KingLandoOver 60 tears of watching sports I only
Maddox and Glavine knew how to play the game for sure.My unscientific theory: Early in their careers, Maddux and Glavine were particularly adept at hitting the corners. They developed reputations for having great command, and by the mid-90s, they began pushing the boundaries, and the NL umps went along. I was in the Air Force living in Alabama during this time, and watched a lot of Braves games. I’m not a Braves hater, nor a disgruntled Pirates or Phillies fan. I just know what I was watching. Again, I acknowledge they were both great pitchers. I also strongly feel they had larger strike zones.
I am not miserable at all. Then again I do not define my life with sports, though I enjoy them. You can't discern shi*.That would explain your miserable existence.. @KingLando
How many board names are you currently using? I discern at least three (3)
I wish I had a dollar for every fan of the 4 major sports who thought a game or series was rigged.No, actually the Indians consistently punch above their weight. Over 60 tears of watching sports I only thought one matchup was rigged, the '95 Series. I am far from alone in that belief.
From me you would get a total of $1. Don't spend it all at once.I wish I had a dollar for every fan of the 4 major sports who thought a game or series was rigged.
1 fan = $1.00. Your math is right on.From me you would get a total of $1. Don't spend it all at once.
movementSo why do you think Maddux and Glavine were didn’t have the same strike zone?