Allar & Steelers.
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Seems like they are really getting into his mechanics and footwork. Excited to see him after a year of development
I heard the Steelers are excited to see him at wide out when they run their wildcat formations. Drew has experience with that!
Well I wish Drew much success and hope the Steelers can fix his mechanics and footwork but the Penn State staff and his personal coach worked on those flaws for years too without success. We’ll see.
I was surprised to see him drafted as high as he was. Most experts (NFL scouts and talent evaluators) had him as a day 3 pick. The Steelers reached for him, which is what desperate organizations do. He has the measureables, but also has a lot of flaws that I am not sure are fixable. We will see.
personal coaches don't do much help when the (thankfully now former) Penn State staff ruins it--ask Terry Smith
He was always looking at going between the 2nd-4th rounds--he went where we was expected to go. It was fully dependent on who would take the 3rd QB and when
It was always the mental part of the QB position this is concern to me. The game never really slowed down for him.
I agree with that. I thought his processing might have been too fast and needed to slow down but he seemed to feel pressure when it wasn’t always there.
I saw him wearing #16 in drills. Does someone on the Stillers already have #15 or does he just want to turn over a new leaf?
ETA: I just looked at the Stillers roster and Ben Skowronek is #15. I’m not sure whether that guy is even guaranteed to make the team.
ETA: I just looked at the Stillers roster and Ben Skowronek is #15. I’m not sure whether that guy is even guaranteed to make the team.
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Roman Wilson wears 14, he may get cut. Skowronek is basically guaranteed to spot on the roster because he’s their best special teams player and a receiver that can actually catch.
His head coach also lacked the mental part. We shall see if that impacted Drew or if he truly does lack “it.” We won’t know for a few years.
I am not a draft expert, but I heard someone say (predraft) that if Allar's footwook could be fixed, he could be the best quarterback in the draft. I am not saying that he is, I just think some people see potential in him and felt if was worth taking a chance.
Remember. if Allar is in the 2025 draft he's a top 20 pick--people forget that. If you gamble on him in the third (like Arizona did with Beck) it literally can't be a reach--there's value there. No one is expecting a third round QB to be a starter.
I wonder if his personal coach was emphasizing the same developments as the PSU staff? Often it appeared to me he was thinking how to do simple basics. He wasn't the first QB to regress under CJF.
No--no he didn't. The only person that may have improved as a passer is Clifford. Check out Trace's senior year--his completion percentage dropped by like 10-15% (don't recall exactly)
But even if we pretend you're right (you're not) Franklin has no clue what to do with pocket passers--we all know this--Smith admitted it--why can't our fan base? If he had more success with them progressing it wasn't pocket passers.
Franklin's gone--we don't still have to pretend he didn't make major mistakes with his schemes/QBs
He’s now being coached by an elite pro qb coach in McCarthy. I’m confident that McCarthy will coach him up and get every drop of Allar’s obvious physical abilities out of him. However, Allar is going to have develop his emotional maturity to succeed, and I think we all know that that was lacking while at PSU.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Allar has a chance to be a better NFL QB than he was in college.
I agree. However, he's going to have to apply what he's taught by McCarthy much better than what he did when he was at PSU.
Charlie Weis had to do something similar with Tom Brady at New England. In that case, Brady had to unlearn and re-learn how to read a defense. Worked out pretty well I think.
Mechanics are a different matter. Brady's were solid coming out of tSUN.
He's probably better off if the answer is "nothing."
Between the Hack/ESPN/Gruden segment and now Allar - that's two QBs that the NFL has identified as ruined by James Franklin. I get the guy is a players coach and is generally regarded as an advocate for the players, but I just don't understand how any QB/parent of would send their kid to learn and play from him. Specifically the QB position.
I've heard that the man is capable of charming the rattle off of a snake.
Please stop the ********. Whether the Penn State offensive scheme was a good fit for Allar doesn’t have a damn thing to do with his footwork and mechanics while throwing the ball which is something that he talked about needing to impress be on every off season for the 4 years he was in the program. By the way, how is that Grunk did quite well with O’Brien also being his QB coach at Penn State?
CJF was never the QB coach at Penn State. See my other post. For some reason, Grunk did quite well against 3 of the toughest defenses in college football while being coached by the same QB coach at Penn State.
Grunk did well in those games? Not really. Grunk played better after those games and continued to improve though.
It has everything to do with it
When a QB isn't comfortable you're going to see that.
Grunk will regret following James. He'll destroy him over time. Loyalty is a flaw outside of military and marriage.
Though I still hold a grudge for "the interception", I would love to see him surprise everyone and do great.