FC: Perfect summary of the state of CFB….
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Last night, I watched a show on ESPN U about the 12th man kickoff coverage program that Jackie Sherill started at Texas A & M beginning in 1983. If you want to see how college football has changed from 1983 to now, just watch that program.
I'm buying a VA Tech hat just so that I have two teams to unfollow
TV ratings, attendance, overall interest would disagree
Kids being paid and programs not having the right to hold them hostage doesn't make it the NFL or a version of it.
Players should have been paid for decades and we've needed a playoff since the 80s
People just dislike change
On a long enough timeline the survival rate for anything becomes zero. You’re saying this will last. I’m betting against it.
You can bet against whatever you want but college football isn't going to die--there's too much of an established fan base.
What is this timeline--a couple hundred years?
Now if you want to claim it's going to change for mid-majors then I agree but they were never truly involved anyway. Creating their own level would improve things.
You can rationalize that the way college football is proceeding right now is great all you want, but the system now has become so perverted that it has no resemblance to what made this sport so special. In order to even be a contender, a school now has to have a payroll that approaches or even exceeds a NFL team. You now have teams made up mostly of mercenaries who have absolutely no loyalty to the school, didn’t grow up rooting for the school, and know nothing about any of the traditions, etc. Most teams basically turn over half the roster after every season. If that’s what you like, then good for you. IMO, I think that it resembles Frankenstein’s monster, and like Victor Frankenstein realized with his creation, this system needs to be destroyed to save itself.
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Can you explain to me how NIL, which was designed for select star players to be paid for appearing in car dealership commercials and having their names on the back of jerseys and having their likeness in video games, devolved into schools having to satisfy NFL level payrolls? The concept of NIL never was intended for the second string qb or the backup left guard to be on a payroll.
Yet Indiana just won a title...right?
How is it any different than before when only a dozen or so out of 120 teams could truly contend?
A quarter or the roster was turning over before...I'm glad guys are able to move on when they want. There's countless guys in the past that would have benefitted from that
Because all players should be paid. That's been true for decades. Had programs not fought that we wouldn't be in this situation. I'm not sure why you think the intent was only for the best kids to get money. I was never under that impression
The established fan base isn’t going to be around forever. Younger kids don’t care as much and won’t have the same bond with a school previous generations did. Boosters are not going to keep paying for $50mm rosters without results. People - including many here - aren’t interested in an NFL model for college. Players should be paid but not like this.
It will be it's generational--did your kids grow up rooting for Penn State? Will people still attend Penn State? It's built in fan base
Young(er) kids don't care about "live sports" the way older generations did but they still care. Boosters will always exist--it's their way to pretend they're important. The only people that seem angry at all about pay for play is the older generations--they young(er) kids tend to love it.
Once we establish a fair "play for play" system then NIL spending will change.
This is the reality, we all know I think Beau was garbage, but why shouldn't he have been allowed to go find someone willing to be dumb enough to pay him to leave and play instead of sitting behind Drew? I'm glad Mizzou regretted it but Beau had every right to do that. Just like Allar, if he was smart, would have left to find a scheme that fit him.
This still isn't professional football--it's guys representing Universities and Colleges. Period.
Do you think Miami fans are mad they got Beck or Indiana fans that they got Mendoza?
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They are paid to play - that is the definition of a professional. We can disagree on the rest too; no worries.
GO STATE!!……even tho we really don’t care anymore
THAT is the problem…that Indiana won a title. The fact the worst team in CFB can use money to become the best is the problem.
Pribula is the poster child for how the pay for play negatively has affected the game. There's a kid who grew up a PSU fan from PA who was getting a lot of playing time for a second string qb on a playoff team and had created a niche for himself. So, what happens? He leaves the team before the playoffs in 2024 and goes to Mizzou, where he started the 2025 season in the exact same situation as at PSU, namely a second string qb who would've seen sporadic playing time if not for the starter getting injured early in the season. Then, he gets injured midway through the season and loses his job to a highly touted frosh, and now he's at his third school in as many seasons. So, he became a vagabond and transferred to two schools at which he had no connection just because. He probably just should've stayed at the school where he had loyalty and a connection, especially since he probably never is going to see a NFL field even in a practice.
So, in the end, what was the point? He transferred to two schools where he'll really won't be remembered when he could've accomplished the same thing at the school where he had a role and probably was being paid more than what he was worth.
But he continues to get paid so there i that not sure he would have made as much money by staying at PSU - can't begrudge the kid for that an as you mentioned probable won't get an NFL paycheck.
I don't begrudge him. I just think that he's an example of how absurd the system has become when you have players transferring to a different school after every season, especially to random schools like in Pribula's case.
We can disagree all you want...that doesn't alter the fact there's been zero negative impact thus far. TV ratings are great. It's all about money. Has been for 40 years. Now the players just get a piece. Sorry that bothers you
The point was he had an opportunity to prove himself...the outcome being predictable doesn't alter that. Why should he sit and wait? Not to mention...he still could have.
The topic was about how NIL and players chasing money are ruining the game while Beau is the perfect example of someone who thought he was better than he was and found a team that willing to pay him and give him an opportunity. That's what should happen.
It's not his fault I was right about how it would end--that was inevitable.
If you'd like to continue discussing how awful he is we can?
I thought you'd be in a better with the Knicks up 2-0 against an awful Sixers team lol
‘Thus far’. The good news is everything is static and nothing ever changes. Winning argument - because something is a certain way now that means it won’t ever change. Now I know why everyone has you on ignore (including me now). Just don’t have the energy for constant trolling.
LOL you think this is trolling--that's adorable.
You don't have any reason to believe things will change--you just don't like the change you've seen so therefore you think it will ruin the game because, to you, the game has been ruined.
If you comprehend things change why can't you embrace that change?
Of course im happy with the Knicks. Playing great ball. I still don’t think you should be calling Beau garbage. That’s unnecessary.
We disagree--his play supports that comment. Won't be the last time we disagree.
This was my quote "we all know I think Beau was garbage, but why shouldn't he have been allowed to go find someone willing to be dumb enough to pay him to leave and play instead of sitting behind Drew? I'm glad Mizzou regretted it but Beau had every right to do that. Just like Allar, if he was smart, would have left to find a scheme that fit him."
Do we not all know this? That's how I see him (and I'm guessing how Mizzou fans see him). I'm glad Mizzou regretted it. Glad Beau had the opportunity he wanted. Life is full of decisions and consequences.
Fail to see the problem other than people just want an argument. It's weird this board defends Beau to the death but has no problem bashing Allar.
I wouldn’t think that saying it’s unnecessary to call Beau garbage equates to defending Beau “to the death” but that’s just me.
Remember the Beau's going to win the Heisman posts or all the people claiming Beau should have been our QB in 2024? Would you like me to share some with you?
Hell, people refuse to even blame Beau for his decision to leave when he did despite the fact he had the option to stay until the end of the playoff.
Defending him to the death includes being angry/frustrated or upset that i said "we all know I think Beau was garbage"--I'm stating a fact--we all know that.
I mean, aren't all posts unnecessary?
There was a thread even started "jokingly" about it Is Beau Pribula leading in the Heisman Voting as of today - Forums
It was also a continue "Beau's elite" nonsense through the Kansas game
Yes, "Heisman" is an exaggeration/joke but not by much