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RUTGERS95

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For me (and I assume others) I definitely feel the merger lost people for putting the onus on the users to figure it out even though it was fairly simple. I’m imagining the merger was more complicated for the older fellas, with frustrations about change lol.

The main thing in my eyes though is that a ton of even the basic info on Rutgers Athletics is now behind a paywall that makes no sense to pay for. For example, paying to just have something become public in a couple days or sometimes even just a couple hours for a verbal commit that might not even really end up here is a weird concept to me.

I’ll keep tuning in and supporting the TKR pod / Rutgers Rant / The Scarlet Faithful / Knight Watch because those are R boys and give great perspectives.

Miss the old more active boards here. Go RU!
Think there is merit here and I'd wager the merger is part of the issue

I actually like this board better than the round table. I think there is better discussion here, less scarlet glasses and more objective back and forth. I don't know if there is a 30 day free trial but I'd rather get this board participants to the round table given we've lost quite a few posters over there.
 

Fat Koko

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This account on X posts some whacky crap. Are RU benefits really 70% of salary



There are various ways to look at this but by all accounts Rutgers is at or near the top on fringe benefits expenses.

This reflects the high cost of benefits for NJ government workers. Holloway testified about fringe benefits in 2024, citing a "near 80 percent fringe rate" figure, and I posted about it on TKR but nobody seem to care then.

For 2026, Rutgers budgets $24.7 million for athletics department fringe benefits. That adds 46% to the $53.0 athletics department salary bill. See budget snapshot and link to budget below.

The NCAA athletics report shows salaries and benefits in a single line item. Don't be fooled when the 2026 athletics department financial report comes out and Tate and Zinn blame higher compensation on fringe benefits. However, the Rutgers budget breaks out salaries and benefits for each financial unit of the university, including athletics. The driver of the increase is salaries, budgeted to up 8%, not fringe benefits, expected to decline 1%.

Moreover, the state picks up the tab for 1/3 of the Rutgers athletics department fringe benefits costs. Other B1G athletics departments do not receive state support for athletic department employee benefits, with the possible exception of Illinois.

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Rutgers 2026 budget
 

tico brown

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Thanks KS for reply. Agree D was awful and that falls on the hc. GS is to blame for Smith and last two years D. Agreed.

But the point was Flood was somehow a good and better game day coach. I was looking for examples of each, most notably the oft repeated that GS game day coaching lost games and which games those were. Smith and the D were sytemic and not game day issues. Was just looking to discuss specific facts to flesh out to see if there was any basis to the trope.

The rest of the commnets appear to be dyed in the wool anti GS no matter what posts and thats different from a factual discussion, as that is a fact free zone and a feelings zone.
Let’s see if you see these answers to your question or you’ll either ignore it or call it FAKE ANTI SCHIANO NEWS:

-Unable to beat teams like Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin and other teams at their worse who Rutgers are supposed to be modeling their programs after.
-Unable to beat a UCLA team who just fired their head coach and was in near shambles as they were coming into Piscataway that week.
-Calling that timeout vs Illinois
-Hiring Robb Smith for the third time after failing twice
-Running a fake field goal with a kicker who runs like a newborn cow vs the one Penn State team that Rutgers could’ve easily beaten.
 

bac2therac

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Let’s see if you see these answers to your question or you’ll either ignore it or call it FAKE ANTI SCHIANO NEWS:

-Unable to beat teams like Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin and other teams at their worse who Rutgers are supposed to be modeling their programs after.
-Unable to beat a UCLA team who just fired their head coach and was in near shambles as they were coming into Piscataway that week.
-Calling that timeout vs Illinois
-Hiring Robb Smith for the third time after failing twice
-Running a fake field goal with a kicker who runs like a newborn cow vs the one Penn State team that Rutgers could’ve easily beaten.
Ill add being in the drivers seat to beat Kansas State and literally run over the last 20 minutes or so
 

Rutgers Chris

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Let’s see if you see these answers to your question or you’ll either ignore it or call it FAKE ANTI SCHIANO NEWS:

-Unable to beat teams like Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin and other teams at their worse who Rutgers are supposed to be modeling their programs after.
-Unable to beat a UCLA team who just fired their head coach and was in near shambles as they were coming into Piscataway that week.
-Calling that timeout vs Illinois
-Hiring Robb Smith for the third time after failing twice
-Running a fake field goal with a kicker who runs like a newborn cow vs the one Penn State team that Rutgers could’ve easily beaten.
Some graphics summarize things very well
 
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Knight Shift

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Some graphics summarize things very well

That graphic got cut off , and it is pathetic:

 

Knight Shift

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GS 2.0 Record against P5 teams with winning season records 2021-2025

2021: 0-7 (plus a loss to 1-8 in B1G Northwestern)
2022: 0-6 (plus 2 losses to 3-6 in B1G Nebraska and 0-6 Michigan State)
2023: 2-6 (1-6 in B1G) (win against a mediocre Miami in Bowl Game)
2024: 1-4 (plus losses to terrible Wisconsin and UCLA Teams)
2025: 0-7

TOTAL 3-30.
2.0 era- 2 signature wins are against an 8-5 Northwestern in 2023 and an 8-5 Minnesota in 2024
dumb and dumber vomit GIF
 

Knight Shift

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Only took 3 pages before the conclusion that all of GS wins are really losses. Surprised that it didn’t come up sooner.
The record of the guy who was purportedly the backup plan if Greg 2.0 did not materialize, and at a school that was in equally bad shape, if not worse than Rutgers when he took over.

Summary-3 seasons with winning records in the B1G. 3 seasons with 8 or more wins. Record against P4 teams with winning records
2022: 3-3
2023: 1-7
2024: 4-4
2025: 5-3
TOTAL- 13-17---That is 10 more wins than Greg against P4 teams with winning records in 4 years versus 5.

But keep celebrating mediocrity, actually worse than mediocrity.

2021Illinois5–74–55th (West)
2022Illinois8–55–4T–2nd (West) L ReliaQuest
2023Illinois5–73–6T–4th (West)
2024Illinois10–36–3T–5thW Citrus1616
2025Illinois9–45–4T–7thW Music City25
 

tico brown

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The record of the guy who was purportedly the backup plan if Greg 2.0 did not materialize, and at a school that was in equally bad shape, if not worse than Rutgers when he took over.

Summary-3 seasons with winning records in the B1G. 3 seasons with 8 or more wins. Record against P4 teams with winning records
2022: 3-3
2023: 1-7
2024: 4-4
2025: 5-3
TOTAL- 13-17---That is 10 more wins than Greg against P4 teams with winning records in 4 years versus 5.

But keep celebrating mediocrity, actually worse than mediocrity.

2021Illinois5–74–55th (West)
2022Illinois8–55–4T–2nd (West)L ReliaQuest
2023Illinois5–73–6T–4th (West)
2024Illinois10–36–3T–5thW Citrus1616
2025Illinois9–45–4T–7thW Music City25
Say Word Wow GIF by Justin
 
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tico brown

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But 2006

Look where we were 10 years ago
It Rutgers fans fault that Jersey Kids born that year have gone elsewhere. Should’ve donated monthly salaries for NIL to a coach who doesn’t use KR or PR or have at least 3 WTF games a year.
 

Anon1752686019

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Only took 3 pages before the conclusion that all of GS wins are really losses. Surprised that it didn’t come up sooner.
I realized most posters in this thread are just pathetic disgruntled people a loooong time ago

Most think they’re way smarter than they actually are
 
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DJ Spanky

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The record of the guy who was purportedly the backup plan if Greg 2.0 did not materialize, and at a school that was in equally bad shape, if not worse than Rutgers when he took over.

Summary-3 seasons with winning records in the B1G. 3 seasons with 8 or more wins. Record against P4 teams with winning records
2022: 3-3
2023: 1-7
2024: 4-4
2025: 5-3
TOTAL- 13-17---That is 10 more wins than Greg against P4 teams with winning records in 4 years versus 5.

But keep celebrating mediocrity, actually worse than mediocrity.

2021Illinois5–74–55th (West)
2022Illinois8–55–4T–2nd (West)L ReliaQuest
2023Illinois5–73–6T–4th (West)
2024Illinois10–36–3T–5thW Citrus1616
2025Illinois9–45–4T–7thW Music City25

Sounds like we've got a Chief Illiniwek fan in our midst!
 
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Knight Shift

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16 of 18 teams

Although Rutgers' defense received a much-needed reset, the changes stir doubts about whether Schiano will ever get both sides of the ball clicking in lockstep. The Scarlet Knights added 15 transfers, but only two from other Power 4 programs in Lonergan (Boston College) and Humes (Maryland). Safety recruit Chris Hewitt Jr. flipped to Georgia Tech.

 
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Perricone7

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Forget about NIL, transfer portal, etc., I think this program is just not built to survive a Chris Ash era. That destroyed any momentum with fringe fans and killed all the Big 10 hype.
 
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Kbe4

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Forget about NIL, transfer portal, etc., I think this program is just not built to survive a Chris Ash era. That destroyed any momentum with fringe fans and killed all the Big 10 hype.
As I've said before, if you wanna be impressed by what GS has done here just check out the histories of the sadsacks that have been Rutgers head football coach here since Anderson and the move to Big Time.
 
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Knight Shift

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Ash is long gone stop blaming him
There is a strong contingent of fans (and high level donors) who live in fear of another Flood/Ash disaster, which is understandable. However, they also seem blind to the fact that the program appears to be stuck in neutral, or perhaps reverse. To the anon poster above who slings insults, calling fans who want more "pathetic disgruntled people," it appears you are happy with a program that is trending below mediocre, and it may not be any better this year with the portal haul. We can only hope that the defensive coaching staff can work wonders with the talent they have and improve the defense. Two groups of reasonable fans can have differing opinions without insulting each other.
 
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SHUSource

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As I've said before, if you wanna be impressed by what GS has done here just check out the histories of the sadsacks that have been Rutgers head football coach here since Anderson and the move to Big Time.
Really, that says so much more about the incompetent hiring (as well as poor resources pre-Schiano) than it does about Schiano himself. He's a very good program CEO who is great at lifting a program out of the Marianas Trench, but his record shows he's not able to drive them past middling. Without the benefit of the five nonconference games he used to be able to schedule in the Big East days, scrapping for bowl eligibility seems to be his ceiling. And it's not because of the Big Ten, either. Beginning the week after the Louisville game in 2006, his teams went just 17-21 in Big East play before he left for the Bucs.

He's just not that good a coach. He's got a record that makes it perfectly clear.
 

RU Cheese

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The platform change removed a lot of posters, but beyond that, there's just nothing to be excited or post about. It's a program in purgatory and devoid of news, optimism, or change.

Heck, there's 67 P4 schools and Schiano has had longer tenure than all but NINE of them. The guy never had the ability to hit next the next level, but in this age, he literally has no value proposition. Recruiting / discipline / academics no longer matter as much and he's god awful on game day / scheme wise.
 

Knight Shift

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Really, that says so much more about the incompetent hiring (as well as poor resources pre-Schiano) than it does about Schiano himself. He's a very good program CEO who is great at lifting a program out of the Marianas Trench, but his record shows he's not able to drive them past middling. Without the benefit of the five nonconference games he used to be able to schedule in the Big East days, scrapping for bowl eligibility seems to be his ceiling. And it's not because of the Big Ten, either. Beginning the week after the Louisville game in 2006, his teams went just 17-21 in Big East play before he left for the Bucs.

He's just not that good a coach. He's got a record that makes it perfectly clear.
You will be roundly attached as a SHU fan, which is ridiculous because SHU does not have a football team. Speaking of roundly, miss your old avatar, here it is!

 

RU Mike73

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For me the world of college sports has changed so dramatically that I've lost interest. Gone are the days of coming to this site to follow high school recruiting, celebrating the recruiting wins and "whatifing" the losses. Watching young athletes commit to my alma mater and being excited for their future development. Watching them grow on the field and compete.

Today's game is made up of one and done's, not student athlete. I still watch but with a lot less passion. **** NIL. It is not what was intended, go ahead and sell a tee shirt or run a camp. This is just pay for play and a turnoff for me.
 

Knight Shift

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Most years as a Rutgers football coach too.

Frank Burns notched 78 wins in 11 seasons with 11 game seasons as the Rutgers head coach.
John Bateman notches 73 wins in 13 seasons, 10 of which were 9 game seasons.
 

SHUSource

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You will be roundly attached as a SHU fan, which is ridiculous because SHU does not have a football team. Speaking of roundly, miss your old avatar, here it is!

You're right, it's gone! I miss it too!

But you're right, I have no horse in this race. I pay attention because I love college football, but am detached enough from this situation to not let emotions govern my assessment of the coach or the program.
 

Knight Shift

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You're right, it's gone! I miss it too!

But you're right, I have no horse in this race. I pay attention because I love college football, but am detached enough from this situation to not let emotions govern my assessment of the coach or the program.
That's exactly the way I look at being a fan of teams I follow.
Should GS turn it around this season, I will be thrilled for the team and him. He is a great leader of young men and in preparing his players for life beyond football. If he does not, he knows that he gets paid to win and elevate the program. There is nothing wrong with wanting our team to perform better and aspire to higher goals.
 
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Kbe4

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Most years as a Rutgers football coach too.

Frank Burns notched 78 wins in 11 seasons with 11 game seasons as the Rutgers head coach.
John Bateman notches 73 wins in 13 seasons, 10 of which were 9 game seasons.

I'm old enough to have seen Burns and Bateman coached teams. They played in that little stadium against small-time schedules.
Playing Colgate, Bucknell, and Princeton every year is a little different than playing in the top conference in the country with games against Michigan, Ohio State, and Pedd State.
It seems to me that some here are criticizing Schiano for not getting the program to a level that it has never been to and perhaps has no chance of ever getting to. I've been waiting for over sixty years for Rutgers to keep the best high school players New Jersey has to offer home and playing for their state university. GS came closer to doing that than anyone else...and I think even he has refocused on other states to get the best talent for Rutgers.
I've been listening to friends who are college football fans but not Rutgers fans telling me over and over again over many, many years that it was an impossible task....that Rutgers would never be able to compete with the top teams in the Big Ten....that people in New Jersey don't care enough about Rutgers football. That no coach could scale that unscalable mountain.
I'm not so sure anymore that they're wrong.