NIL Spenders Per Sean Miller
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There’s gotta be a bubble to this thing eventually
But UK cut Pope to well below $20mil because they plan on firing him at the end of next season and they don't want him to assemble a roster that could complicate their plans.
You mean like last year?
Unsustainable. Elite football rosters are anywhere from 2x - 5x this, but bring in 10x more revenue than bball. ROI in basketball won't be there for this to continue. IMHO.
Pope had his shot to assemble an expensive roster last year, was my point. I'm sure we're still spending in the top 10, or at least had that much available before all the whiffs.
Okay, I totally agree about last year; they gave him all he needed and he blew it. My point was that, with average NIL going up over 60% and most of the top programs having $20mil or more this year, UK seems to have given Pope less than $20mil this year. If they really wanted him to succeed next year he's have maybe $24mil but they don't want him to do well enough to complicate their retention decision.
Pope can handle that not complicating things just fine on his own.
It’s absolutely a house of cards waiting to tumble.
I may certainly be wrong, but I suspect big donors who do not get the kind of results they expect will tend to decrease their funding.
One we unfortunatly helped perpetuate with the $22M roster of mainly backups we trotted out last year.
Duke with Amazon is $40 + million
I'm not so sure that it's unsustainable. Look at how many hundreds of millions mega donors have poured into the losing football programs for years now. The thing they're gonna quickly figure out is that trying to outspend everyone else won't work but there are too many teams and too much randomness to guarantee success.
The only way we get a recruit is to hire their dad or if their brother is on the team. No amount of money could convince one of the top recruits to play for this guy. Time to leave fantasy land and accept reality. He is terrible at his job and needs to be cheering on the team from the stands like the rest of us.
If you're talking to me about that you're talking to the wrong person; I never thought he should have been retained and have no expectation that he will turn things around.
But somebody will have to convince me that I'm wrong that the UK admin is knowingly sacrificing a season(like they've done twice in football) and believes that is a smart decision. I also think that they want to make sure Pope doesn't have a chance at a roster that might exceed expectations and complicate their decision.
I was actually hoping Goodman was gonna ask how many he thought were 30+, because I’d be willing to bet it’s more than just a couple
There will be for almost everyone not named Duke!
I’ve said it multiple times… Rich, deep pocket donors are not going to continue to keep forking over millions of dollars annually, just to watch their team fall short, and with ZERO return on investment!
They’re doing it now because it’s the new “cool thing” to brag about amongst their other rich friends, but when those bank accounts get lighter and lighter, and there’s still no banners being hung, the wells will eventually run dry, and the current market will correct itself to something more fiscally sustainable.
Is that per player.
I actually agree with this, it’s only a matter of time before the shine of NIL wears off and donors will want coaches to target certain guys with their donations and if they don’t get them, no more money from them.
I doubt it’s the admin, it’s the boosters. Would you give to this cluster? It’s like lighting your money on fire. Especially when they are going to be asked 11 months from now to foot the buyout.
I'm not convinced because they've done what I alleged twice in football in the last 20 years, once before NIL.
The problem is the “keeping up with the Jones” effect. Most schools can’t afford to keep accelerating the spending, but they feel like they must to keep up with a few who can.
With backers like Amazon, there appears to be no end to what Duke can spend. Which puts their rivals in a tough bind, either spend stupidly or let the blue devils run away from the field.
So...maybe Pope isn't landing the 5 star guys because there are 20 schools out there outbidding us, not because he is Morman
You're thinking rationally. I've accused the UK admin of a lot of things in the past but I've never accused them of rational thought.
Yeah, the amount of money this offseason is insane. That’s what I keep trying to tell people. UK doesn’t have the money people think.
why would billionaire donors who run all this want this to change? the school ADs and presidents work for them. the NCAA works for the ADs and presidents. its about who wants to spend want now
Or use your booster money wisely and call Congress to finally put some reigns on this. Get smart and create a playing field again.
Hasn't been said about me very often either.
just another example of the basketball leadership and leadership at UK not recognizing what it is. if you want a great roster, you are going to have to spend like it. to think you the NIL landscape this year would be the same last year and you can land a top 10 roster while saving 4M-5M was a gross mistake. playing moneyball out of the gate put us behind the 8 ball. agents just took their clients to the teams that were willing to spend.
but not all of them. every year there will be big/over spenders. like providence who goes out and gets byrd, vaaks, vanterpool, and mack. they might not spend the same next year, but some other team will step up.
Mo
Might as well at this point. I honestly think this is the boosters thinking. Why throw good money at bad?
Perhaps. But who has enough control to make that decision besides Mitch or Eli. And it wouldn’t be them.
People with money enjoy spending that money, especially if they're sports fans and believe their money will bring a title to the university they cheer for. Like Drake, they secretly want to be apart of the team.
I’d argue that with unlimited NIL available to some, the definition of Blue Blood needs to be re-written.