That's the problem with these guys, facts don't matter, you could give them a million dollars and they would complain and make up reasons for it.
That's not true at all. Pope accomplished great things in year 1, there are plenty of facts to use in his defense.
worked year 1? 10+ losses and one of the hardest to watch kentucky teams in recent memory
It’s not a loser mentality, it's the mentality of someone that understands the situation and isn't running around crying like a 2 year old.
I've never called Pope anything like that.
I read on here that Otega sucks.
Why would I say anything about what happened from 10-15? Wtf does that have to do with Mark Pope and Cal's last 5 years?
He is not a good defender. He just gambles in the passing lanes all the time. Yes, he will get a couple steals like that and maybe a runout dunk. But can't keep his man in front of him and usually doesn't try.
Against the 3rd toughest schedule. That matters. It’s the reason UK got a 3 seed. Do you always just look at the wins and losses?
"Played" is probably not the right word. He mostly just watched those games. With that deer in the headlights look. He certainly does not compete. And will just quit at a moments notice.
Trust me, I'll be pissed off every time we lose.
I actually don't care about wins and losses is the thing, or tourney wins for that matter
See post 33. You don't know your a$$ from a hole in the ground.
also if i only weighed my enjoyment on wins and losses and tourney wins id be miserable all year
How dumb. Okay smarta$$, can you tell me what coach did compete in games the last 2 years?
Year 1 he embarrassed UK in MSG. Got embarrassed at Clemson. He got his lunch handed to him in Rupp by Cal. He was 6th in the SEC. He didn't show up for the game against Alabama in the SEC. Then didn't show up against UT in the S16 game. And that was the best team he's had in his career. Lost 12 games.
That wasn't my point and you know it. But I see you have nothing of substance so you can now continue with personal attacks.
I can't tell you how shocked I am that your only focus is the negative things that happened. SHOCKED I tell ya.
This is what you said:
It’s what we’ve been talking about. It’s why I don’t understand why you’re personal hate for cal is justified but people not wanting mark pope as the coach isn’t.
Is he? Idk what that means. He's getting paid $5mil a year to embarrass the program on a national stage. It seems to me like he's putting Mark Pope first.
Dude you're being disingenuous or you aren't paying attention. He lies constantly.
Because Cal prioritized the NBA draft and individual goals. He also made fun of UK fans for calling him out on his bullsh*t. He gave us a nickname too, all while he made 10 million a year, thanks to UK fan interest
Do tell. What is Mark Pope doing that leads you to believe UK isn’t his #1 priority?
Problem is we are going on the same flight with the same pilot for a 3rd time.......ok this metaphor is played out.
So cal failing = he just wasn’t trying or working hard but pope failing = working hard but just not panning out.
We’re not stopping it from playing out, we can complain about pope if we want to. We all complained about cal and you were on board for that.
His last radio show where he's justifying his failure here by comparing it to Cal's worst years.
See, the thing is, we really don't know how this is going to play out. I would agree if both season's went the way year 2 went, but that's not the case.Problem is we are going on the same flight with the same pilot for a 3rd time.......ok this metaphor is played out.
Of course, we have no other option but to let it play out. But we almost certainly know how this ends. And the stubbornness out of the UKAA has created an environment where the fanbase almost has to raise holy hell or their pleas will be ignored. If we didn't raise hell Stoops and Calipari would still be here. Heck, Joker may still be here. Barnhart can't leave fast enough imo.
Any time he is asked to describe his team, or his coaching style, he speaks in such flowery hyperbole that it bears no actual relation to reality. Like he'll describe our team and then you watch the on-court product and there is just no correlation between the two.
Yeah, you guys are just taling the complaining to a ridiculous level. It’s every thread.
I agree with that actually and I don't like it, this place being an echo chamber of negativity. And I know that's hypocritical of me bc I add to it. But I genuinely don't see much cause for optimism. We are negative because we are responding to the circumstances we are handed.
How is that a lie? Was it not true? It was petty, but it's not a lie. It’s actually very true.
Cal really hurt your feelings didn’t he? Unbelievable how much you complain about that. Who cares if it’s every thread though? It’s a Kentucky basketball forum and he’s the head coach, he’s gonna be talked about. His first season was okay, wasn’t a world beater like you want to prop it up to be though, had some good wins and also had bad losses and the same deficiencies and bad decision making that plagued this last season was still there in the first season. He didn’t make a jump like he should have in the second season, instead he showed he’s just a mediocre coach. And he’s not done himself any favors this offseason
So now hyperbole is lying? If that's the case, every coach is a liar. Heck, we're all liars, because we've all done that a time or two in our lives.
