#90 CBB Incoming Class and #37 Transfer Portal

philstat

Heisman
Jan 3, 2004
10,895
10,346
56
That’s Mark Pope’s numbers for this year and many want to defend him, he did an absolutely abysmal job during the season and is continuing to do so in the offseason. I guess I’m the one percent that he speaks of…never has one been given so much and done so little with an opportunity.
 

TFCat11

Heisman
Mar 25, 2019
6,191
11,345
108
Guess the many post already talking about this wasn’t enough? Literally this was just posted yesterday and beat to death already.
It’s going to continue to be “beat to death”, because it can’t be allowed to continue on the path the program is on, which for some bizarre reason, you folks seem to be vehemently defending!

Why do you folks want UK’s men’s basketball program to suck so much? Why do defend the indefensible? Why are you lobbying for Pope to make a complete comedy act out of our recently proud sports team?

It’s completely insane watching all of you support this nonsense!
 

CUJO_1970

All-Conference
Jul 3, 2025
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What if you had 14 years of data to literally look at and study to predict an outcome?

The question is this and it really needs to be answered: What reason do you expect a different outcome when all the data from 14 years is exactly the same?

Answer that question
 

philstat

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Jan 3, 2004
10,895
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What if you had 14 years of data to literally look at and study to predict an outcome?

The question is this and it really needs to be answered: What reason do you expect a different outcome when all the data from 14 years is exactly the same?

Answer that question
Are you expecting Mitch to come on here and answer that, lol, he’s the one that hired him…
 
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UKCowboys

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Oct 14, 2019
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Thread #9768 about Popes recruiting this season. Just what we need. Even lists our ranks.
Except...we stoll have several roster spots available and there are good to great players out there we will fill out those spots with. If he lands a great player, all 9768 threads turn into Charmin.
 

Johnnie Africa

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Feb 27, 2003
898
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I mean the third year was always the year. If we have a poor season with poor results, with a new AD I would be surprised if we didn’t make it his last. In a way it’s better if he has a bad season then an ok season and a miracle elite eight or something. Almost like Hubert Davis and his miracle final four. If he’s having a bad season half way through conversations with coaches can start so we’re not scrambling like UNC this year or us when Cal left.
 

kyjeff1

Heisman
Sep 8, 2012
51,274
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There is still a lot of confusion on this. We're not defending Mark Pope, the only thing we are defending, is a 3rd year for him to prove himself.

If he didn't get to a sweet 16 and win so many quad 1 games in year 1, we would feel differently, but no coach gets fired after year 2 when the worst he did, was get to the 2nd round of the tournament.

That's all. Nobody is defending Pope and acting like he's done nothing wrong. We have literally agreed with his deficiencies, but I refuse to say he's anywhere near as bad as BCG. I will defiantly defend him there.

We're only defending the decision for Pope to get a 3rd year, that's it, nothing more. We all know his recruiting, sub patterns, toughness, game preperation and player relation abilities are not good, we get it, we don't need all these threads that pop up throughout each day describing how bad Pope sucks and calling out these supposed Pope pumpers that don't exist.

I assure you, if the same things happen in year 3 that we saw in year 2, all of us will agree that Pope is done. There might be a couple that hang on, but most will agree he has to go.

All we're doing, is hoping he figures it out. That's all, nothing more. I wish you guys understood this.
 

PastorofMuppets82

All-Conference
Mar 4, 2025
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Not being argumentative, which one of those includes Ousmane? I assume the 90th ranked recruiting class?
Technically the 90th ranked recruiting class. However, Ousmane won't move the needle because he isn't ranked by any of the rating companies as a high school prospect. So he's basically counted as a 0 star. That's why computer generated ranking sites are poop.
 

philstat

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Jan 3, 2004
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Technically the 90th ranked recruiting class. However, Ousmane won't move the needle because he isn't ranked by any of the rating companies as a high school prospect. So he's basically counted as a 0 star. That's why computer generated ranking sites are poop.
I believe he a good pickup, though I don’t expect him to score 10ppg, believe he’ll be a solid piece, nothing special.
 

anot

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Mar 27, 2026
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Guess the many post already talking about this wasn’t enough? Literally this was just posted yesterday and beat to death already
I get your point because of the timing. He's our coach this year so we are kind of forced to support him...but if this season starts going terrible I hope everyone makes a thread like this 100 times a day. I really hope the fan base turns up the heat if it goes bad which is likely.

I've really eased up on Pope lately not because I'm a fan but because I know we are stuck for at least one more season. All that nice stuff needs to go out the window this season unless a miracle occurs.

I was really hard on Pope this last season but I had hope he might get fired. Another season like this last one and he's here year four without the fansbase going absolutely crazy I'll have nothing left to say.

I'd rather Pope succeed than crap on him but he makes it hard.
 
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ChocoChicken

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Apr 6, 2026
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There is still a lot of confusion on this. We're not defending Mark Pope, the only thing we are defending, is a 3rd year for him to prove himself.

If he didn't get to a sweet 16 and win so many quad 1 games in year 1, we would feel differently, but no coach gets fired after year 2 when the worst he did, was get to the 2nd round of the tournament.

That's all. Nobody is defending Pope and acting like he's done nothing wrong. We have literally agreed with his deficiencies, but I refuse to say he's anywhere near as bad as BCG. I will defiantly defend him there.

We're only defending the decision for Pope to get a 3rd year, that's it, nothing more. We all know his recruiting, sub patterns, toughness, game preperation and player relation abilities are not good, we get it, we don't need all these threads that pop up throughout each day describing how bad Pope sucks and calling out these supposed Pope pumpers that don't exist.

I assure you, if the same things happen in year 3 that we saw in year 2, all of us will agree that Pope is done. There might be a couple that hang on, but most will agree he has to go.

All we're doing, is hoping he figures it out. That's all, nothing more. I wish you guys understood this.
CMP did rather well in his first portal considering it was ranked 5th overall.

He’s done much worse this year than his last two years in comparison. The fact that he still averaged 13 losses while having the 5th ranked portal team both years makes this particularly bad portal extremely concerning. Can’t even make a good excuse of bringing in a good high school class. We did horribly in that as well. And we didn’t exactly retain as many players as I thought we would.

No matter how much we hope CMP pulls it off, everything is going against him this offseason. He’s currently got the 9th best portal class in the SEC. Let that sink in.
 
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kyjeff1

Heisman
Sep 8, 2012
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It’s going to continue to be “beat to death”, because it can’t be allowed to continue on the path the program is on, which for some bizarre reason, you folks seem to be vehemently defending!
Who is vehemently defending Pope? Who are these people and how exactly are they defending Mark Pope?
Why do you folks want UK’s men’s basketball program to suck so much? Why do defend the indefensible? Why are you lobbying for Pope to make a complete comedy act out of our recently proud sports team?

It’s completely insane watching all of you support this nonsense!
So, the folks that are remaining calm and letting this play out, are defending Pope and hoping the program falls? Really?

Pope was always getting a 3rd year and it's all on his shoulders, he has all the pressure and the donors have spoken.

Jumping up and down and throwing darts on a message board at this point in time, is your way of handling the situation. Just because I choose to remain calm and let it play out, doesn't make you a better UK fan than me, I can guaran-damn-tee that.

There is nobody that wants to win more than me, I'm as competetive as they come, but even I know to just let this play out. It doesn't mean I'm some freaking Mark Pope groupy, simply because I am choosing to remain calm.
 

Damage_inc

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Oct 4, 2019
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First off, who is defending Pope? I don't see anyone. Second, why does is rile you up that someone would feel differently than you about it. When I ***** about pope all I can think of is how angry I am at Pope. I don't even stop to consider being angry at those who may be out there defending him. That's weird behavior.
 

kyjeff1

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Sep 8, 2012
51,274
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Are you expecting Mitch to come on here and answer that, lol, he’s the one that hired him…
And that's where the vile hate should be directed. Mark Pope never should have been offered the job. It was a lazy hire and Mitch is the one that did this.

As soon as Mark was hired, I understood he was getting 3 years, unless he totally bombed, but he hasn't bombed, so it is what it is.

Mitch is getting off easy here and he shouldn't be.
 

UKFootball78

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Sep 1, 2013
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There is still a lot of confusion on this. We're not defending Mark Pope, the only thing we are defending, is a 3rd year for him to prove himself.

If he didn't get to a sweet 16 and win so many quad 1 games in year 1, we would feel differently, but no coach gets fired after year 2 when the worst he did, was get to the 2nd round of the tournament.

That's all. Nobody is defending Pope and acting like he's done nothing wrong. We have literally agreed with his deficiencies, but I refuse to say he's anywhere near as bad as BCG. I will defiantly defend him there.

We're only defending the decision for Pope to get a 3rd year, that's it, nothing more. We all know his recruiting, sub patterns, toughness, game preperation and player relation abilities are not good, we get it, we don't need all these threads that pop up throughout each day describing how bad Pope sucks and calling out these supposed Pope pumpers that don't exist.

I assure you, if the same things happen in year 3 that we saw in year 2, all of us will agree that Pope is done. There might be a couple that hang on, but most will agree he has to go.

All we're doing, is hoping he figures it out. That's all, nothing more. I wish you guys understood this.
I've made this exact same post multiple times
 

kyjeff1

Heisman
Sep 8, 2012
51,274
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CMP did rather well in his first portal considering it was ranked 5th overall.

He’s done much worse this year than his last two years in comparison. The fact that he still averaged 13 losses while having the 5th ranked portal team both years makes this particularly bad portal extremely concerning. Can’t even make a good excuse of bringing in a good high school class. We did horribly in that as well. And we didn’t exactly retain as many players as I thought we would.

No matter how much we hope CMP pulls it off, everything is going against him this offseason. He’s currently got the 9th best portal class in the SEC. Let that sink in.
Right, but isn't that what you want?

I'm trying to figure out why the guys that want Pope fired, get so upset when he misses on a recruit. Makes no sense.

If you want Pope fired, you better start hoping he doesn't land Stokes, or any other talents, because if he makes a sweet 16 this year, he's getting a 4th year.

You guys might want to figure out what you actually want, because you're all over the place on this.

Here's the thing, I know how I want it to go, which is why I'm remaining calm, but somehow, that makes me a "Mark Pope slurper". I want UK to win, so I'm a f*cking "Mark Pope slurper". Awesome.
 

philstat

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Jan 3, 2004
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Thread #9768 about Popes recruiting this season. Just what we need. Even lists our ranks.
Except...we stoll have several roster spots available and there are good to great players out there we will fill out those spots with. If he lands a great player, all 9768 threads turn into Charmin.
We’re trying to get to 10K posts on the issue to bring about situational awareness.
 
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kyjeff1

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Sep 8, 2012
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I've made this exact same post multiple times
I've stated it at least 50 times and here we are again. I'm amazed at how good, solid posters continue on with this narrative that there are Pope fans out there that care more about Pope than UK.

I literally started a thread asking who the Pope fans were. In 6 pages, 2 posters, that rarely post, said they were Pope fans… .TWO.

What this is, is guys getting upset and looking for someone to blame when they see things aren't going well and since there is a group of us that are remsining calm, we are the target. How awesome is that?
 
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Catphright23

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Dec 6, 2023
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what was last years portal class ranked? I think it was pretty high and most of you wanted them gone. well still add more people but we got rid of players who gave us nearly nothing Jasper, bg and jelavic
 
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philstat

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There is still a lot of confusion on this. We're not defending Mark Pope, the only thing we are defending, is a 3rd year for him to prove himself.

If he didn't get to a sweet 16 and win so many quad 1 games in year 1, we would feel differently, but no coach gets fired after year 2 when the worst he did, was get to the 2nd round of the tournament.

That's all. Nobody is defending Pope and acting like he's done nothing wrong. We have literally agreed with his deficiencies, but I refuse to say he's anywhere near as bad as BCG. I will defiantly defend him there.

We're only defending the decision for Pope to get a 3rd year, that's it, nothing more. We all know his recruiting, sub patterns, toughness, game preperation and player relation abilities are not good, we get it, we don't need all these threads that pop up throughout each day describing how bad Pope sucks and calling out these supposed Pope pumpers that don't exist.

I assure you, if the same things happen in year 3 that we saw in year 2, all of us will agree that Pope is done. There might be a couple that hang on, but most will agree he has to go.

All we're doing, is hoping he figures it out. That's all, nothing more. I wish you guys understood this.
Fair points, though I go with the notion he should have been hired in the first place, when one sees the drive and motivation of what Stein is doing, Pope comes across as a sloth in comparison. In his first year he did show promise and collectively we all want to see that return, no question, though on a percentage scale, I give that less than 10% with the talent he will likely have next season. Though hope that I’m brutally wrong!
 

Yardeth

Heisman
Jan 2, 2007
13,493
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I would love to ask Pope what his analytics are telling him about his percentage of getting another year at UK. He is sweating and just trying to get players that don’t know him from overseas.
 
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philstat

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Yeah, Tayshaun and AD never could get it going, they were just too darn skinny.
Comparing this kid to TP is ridiculous, TP was thin though he was in great shape physically and he was one hell of a defender, essentially a poor man’s Scottie Pippen.
 
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kyjeff1

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Fair points, though I go with the notion he should have been hired in the first place, when one sees the drive and motivation of what Stein is doing, Pope comes across as a sloth in comparison. In his first year he did show promise and collectively we all want to see that return, no question, though on a percentage scale, I give that less than 10% with the talent he will likely have next season. Though hope that I’m brutally wrong!
I don't disagree with you. Pope never should have been hired, never even should have been considered. I've stated this a hundred times.

However, I do feel like some of the debt Mark Pope is paying, is Cal's. Cal's last 4 years stunk. Pope has done better in some categories, but that anger aimed at Pope, is hotter than it should be.

The thing that worries me, is if Pope gets a 4th, or 5th place finish in the SEC, gets to Saturday in the SECT and gets to a sweet 16. That's the real problem. Where we are sitting right now, is nothing compared to where we will be sitting next year if my scenario plays out.
 
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ChocoChicken

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Right, but isn't that what you want?

I'm trying to figure out why the guys that want Pope fired, get so upset when he misses on a recruit. Makes no sense.

If you want Pope fired, you better start hoping he doesn't land Stokes, or any other talents, because if he makes a sweet 16 this year, he's getting a 4th year.

You guys might want to figure out what you actually want, because you're all over the place on this.

Here's the thing, I know how I want it to go, which is why I'm remaining calm, but somehow, that makes me a "Mark Pope slurper". I want UK to win, so I'm a f*cking "Mark Pope slurper". Awesome.
I want CMP to succeed. Did I want the guy? No, absolutely not. But I don’t want to have to go through another coaching search. But it’s hard to not look at where UK is right now from a roster standpoint and what the rest of the SEC is doing and think that we’re going to succeed.

But between a crappy season after being preseason top 10, a crappy, frustrating 2026 recruiting class and ending it with a poor portal class to boot while our rivals all look to be in the top 10 next season, a lot of us are ticked off. We’re venting. Everything sucks right now and it’s hard not to complain.
 

kyjeff1

Heisman
Sep 8, 2012
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Comparing this kid to TP is ridiculous, TP was thin though he was in great shape physically and he was one hell of a defender, essentially a poor man’s Scottie Pippen.
The only comparison I made, was their skinniness, Tayshaun was a skeleton and AD wasn't much thicker.

N'Daiye is actually fairly muscular and he is not a banger, he is more of a Wembenyana style player. He is very mobile and athletic.

Pope needs to get a big body 4, he can't just go into next season with only N'Daiye and Kam as his options at the 4.
 

Anon1774274437

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Mar 23, 2026
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That’s Mark Pope’s numbers for this year and many want to defend him, he did an absolutely abysmal job during the season and is continuing to do so in the offseason. I guess I’m the one percent that he speaks of…never has one been given so much and done so little with an opportunity.
We have to suffer through one more year
 
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kyjeff1

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I want CMP to succeed. Did I want the guy? No, absolutely not. But I don’t want to have to go through another coaching search. But it’s hard to not look at where UK is right now from a roster standpoint and what the rest of the SEC is doing and think that we’re going to succeed.

But between a crappy season after being preseason top 10, a crappy, frustrating 2026 recruiting class and ending it with a poor portal class to boot while our rivals all look to be in the top 10 next season, a lot of us are ticked off. We’re venting. Everything sucks right now and it’s hard not to complain.
Okay, well, I hate to break the news to you, but on this board, this means you are a "Mark Pope pumper" and/or a "Popette".

Good luck trying to convince your friends that you don't care more about Pope than you do UK.