Small injury. Should be back for the U20 WTTHas anyone heard why Seidel didn’t compete at U20’s? He was registered at 65kg. I would’ve loved to see him vs Bassett
Small injury. Should be back for the U20 WTTHas anyone heard why Seidel didn’t compete at U20’s? He was registered at 65kg. I would’ve loved to see him vs Bassett
Jaden asked KD to do it,don't believe KD wanted to.A tech would have looked good on his future colleges continuing recruitment.
I can’t get through this whole thread and I’m sure it’s been mentioned, but shout out to Joe Sealey. His Senior US Open hit list included Bianchi, Barraclough, Jacques, Amine and David Carr. Only loss was 3-2 to eventual champ. That was an impressive run!
The other Cortez twin techs Anderson 10-0. Cortez brothers are going to be good for Cornell. They could use some good news
According to the announcers, and thats all I'm going off of, KD picked up the brick and James said no. KD threw it anyway.Jaden asked KD to do it,don't believe KD wanted to.
Didn't see it but that's definitely something KD would do if he thinks points were missed he's bricking it for sure regardlessAccording to the announcers, and thats all I'm going off of, KD picked up the brick and James said no. KD threw it anyway.
Yes, there's info about Kasak on the other site from Brantt.Any info on Kasak or Barr? Not that we normally get anything about injuries from the coaching staff.
Care to share/summarize. Not a member over there and can’t see any postsYes, there's info about Kasak on the other site from Brantt.
It's a bummer that board switched to a paid membership model. I would periodically go over there and peruse the wrestling thread. It does seem a little odd to me that an obvious insider like Brantt would exclusively post on a Penn State wrestling board that has much less wrestling traffic than here. Then again, maybe he has specific ties to that board? Does anyone know if he ever posts here under a different name?Care to share/summarize. Not a member over there and can’t see any posts
I'm guessing that JJ wanted to challenge it (but maybe it was KD? JJ's hand signals to KD weren't clear to me) because he actually put a decent amount of effort into trying to get that last TD to get the tech.Didn't see it but that's definitely something KD would do if he thinks points were missed he's bricking it for sure regardless
He posts on BWI under same name.It's a bummer that board switched to a paid membership model. I would periodically go over there and peruse the wrestling thread. It does seem a little odd to me that an obvious insider like Brantt would exclusively post on a Penn State wrestling board that has much less wrestling traffic than here. Then again, maybe he has specific ties to that board? Does anyone know if he ever posts here under a different name?
@McScoreley might be able help with that also.Care to share/summarize. Not a member over there and can’t see any posts
That was definitely an impressive Consolation run. To string together eleven straight wins to take third is one for the ages. Of those eleven wins he had ten 10/11-0 techs and one 15-4 tech!Daniel Heiser got teched by Asher first round and came all the way back for 3rd! Impressive
MCscorely has it covered below, but it's exactly what many have been speculating about for over a year now (but have been repeatedly shot down)...if it walks like a duck.Care to share/summarize. Not a member over there and can’t see any posts
Staff only postsOkay I give up. What’s the new green icon and number next to every thread?
I’ve never seen a staff member post a poll, so it can’t be that amazingStaff only posts
Its amazing
You missed the entire point. Folks annointed Jax and literally said he was unbeatable after NCAA's. Well, no he isn't, and Davino actually kicked his a&&. Then, well, you know the rest of the story...I'm not sure what one match, in freestyle, proves regarding the murderer's row (Blaze, Davino, Forrest, Seidel) that was/is the NCAA 133 folkstyle weight class. Those 4 have traded blows the last few years and likely will for years to come.
I didn't miss your point. And, again, this is one match, in freestyle.You missed the entire point. Folks annointed Jax and literally said he was unbeatable after NCAA's. Well, no he isn't, and Davino actually kicked his a&&. Then, well, you know the rest of the story...
Ahhhh this is a bit of a strawman, even if your underlying point is valid. I don't recall many or really any poster that stated " Blaze is an almost certain 4 timer". There were a lot of " he could be a 4 timer" or " he is my pick to win the title as a freshman" and so on.I didn't miss your point. And, again, this is one match, in freestyle.
The same could have also been said, but regarding Blaze, to begin this season. Several posters here were, pre-season, calling Blaze an almost certain 4-timer. He was the anointed one, by many on this board, and then you know what happened to end the season.
Clearly Forrest was the best of the bunch the end of the NCAA season, in folkstyle, and I'm looking for years and years ahead of these guys beating each other up.
I mostly agree with the first paragraph. The second feels...over the top. That PIAA one was in conjunction with a serious injury, wasn't it? Which, is probably his biggest issue. If he were in a video game his injury attribute would be low as hell. But to say he's become a choker just feels wrong. Sure he lost to ramos his final year, he also won 3 titles including as a true freshman. He lost in the Olympic finals. He made the Olympic finals which is pretty damn special. If anything, it's a mixture of otherworldly expectations being placed on him and domestic wrestling fans not appreciating the difficulty in just making the Olympics, let alone winning them.Lee still might win Final X but it is a shame how the poor Iowa coaching has ruined him. Their philosophy of practicing one move until it's perfected gave Lee one of the best if not the best tilt series in folkstyle history. He never developed on his feet since he would TF or F with the strength on top. Then most Iowa wrestlers skip Freestyle while in college so that didn't help.
He's also developing a reputation as a choker. Ramos, Olympics, RAF, heck even PIAA all underwhelming performances with a chance to make history.
Excuses are supposedly for wusses.I mostly agree with the first paragraph. The second feels...over the top. That PIAA one was in conjunction with a serious injury, wasn't it? Which, is probably his biggest issue. If he were in a video game his injury attribute would be low as hell. But to say he's become a choker just feels wrong. Sure he lost to ramos his final year, he also won 3 titles including as a true freshman. He lost in the Olympic finals. He made the Olympic finals which is pretty damn special. If anything, it's a mixture of otherworldly expectations being placed on him and domestic wrestling fans not appreciating the difficulty in just making the Olympics, let alone winning them.
It does suck that Injuries derailed what could have been an all time great wrestling resume as an American, in my opinion at least. Iowa and their staff and training absolutely played a role in that to an extent, but he was always injury prone as well.
Sure, I just don't think I'd call the pattern "choking". Especially for a body of work that dates back a decade + and includes mostly success and excellence.Excuses are supposedly for wusses.
It wasn't that Ramos beat him but he quit both at the end of the match and got pinned then the tournament. In the Olympic finals, he had more than 30 seconds to score and his "effort" was falling on his back with 1 second left. He gave up at RAF and was pinned in the last seconds, Got TFd by Armenian at Worlds..there's a pattern there.
I got a little insight into Lee from a friend who has gotten to know him really well. He said that Lee is really hard on himself and deeply personalizes his losses. Maybe something switched off in his head during those matches where he knew he wasn't going to win. I'm no psychologist, but I think Lee might have bought too much into Brands' philosophy of "winning is everything."Excuses are supposedly for wusses.
It wasn't that Ramos beat him but he quit both at the end of the match and got pinned then the tournament. In the Olympic finals, he had more than 30 seconds to score and his "effort" was falling on his back with 1 second left. He gave up at RAF and was pinned in the last seconds, Got TFd by Armenian at Worlds..there's a pattern there.
65kg is going to be insane in the future. All of the top 61kg will go up I believe plus all the already established 65kg guys. The Olympic qualifiers will be nuts. Bassett, Blaze, Jax, Davino, Woods, etc. I can’t waitAhhhh this is a bit of a strawman, even if your underlying point is valid. I don't recall many or really any poster that stated " Blaze is an almost certain 4 timer". There were a lot of " he could be a 4 timer" or " he is my pick to win the title as a freshman" and so on.
I also cannot wait for the next few years of them in college, even if it seems unlikely Seidel and Forrest stay at 133 long term. The international scene post college, and during, will be even more wild and will only serve to sharpen and improve each of them as they have legitimate equals to push each other to their potential.
That's another reason why I think Iowa ruined Spencer. Penn State's philosophy of improvement is more important in that moment than winning would have helped Lee immensely. Not only that but Bonnie alone would have filled his trophy case. Everyone likes to joke about his mother and glasses but that reaction was also a sign of how he grew up. One can just imagine a car ride home from a youth tournament that he didn't win.I got a little insight into Lee from a friend who has gotten to know him really well. He said that Lee is really hard on himself and deeply personalizes his losses. Maybe something switched off in his head during those matches where he knew he wasn't going to win. I'm no psychologist, but I think Lee might have bought too much into Brands' philosophy of "winning is everything."