Letter to the Editor: Penn State’s Failed Experiment (The Curse of Joe Paterno)

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The head coach job for PSU football is not given for life. Some PSU folks just refuse to understand this. Joe Paterno, for all his good traits, had one fatal flaw and the school indulged it by not having him gracefully step down. Had he stepped down in the late 90s, PSU would’ve moved through several coaches and this old guard chant of coach for life would have slowly died out. James Franklin built a program over a decade that couldn’t beat the teams that mattered. We saw the best and worst of him. It was time a for a change, something some PSU folks still can’t understand.
I also grew up admiring JoePa, and I was in the camp that he’d earned the right to decide when he should retire. I also thought that he was the ceo, setting direction, and other guys could do the actual coaching.

With the benefit of hindsight, this was a huge mistake. Not because he let the football program slide into disrepair.

But because of Sandusky. If Paterno retires in 2006 or before, the narrative is that this was some old long retired coach, with no current PSU connection. Like the Gym Jordan narrative, a lesser scandal than msu, um, and OSU scandals. But because Paterno was still head coach in 2011, it became a scandal that involved the current staff, and ends up staining PSU for a generation or more
 

PSUForever

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Joe was a great coach who stayed too long. Franklin was a good coach who would have also stayed too long if they let him. No one should ever have a job for life guaranteed. And yes as the people who pay the bills us “fanboys” do deserve better. Coaches come and go fan remain and if you can’t grasp that you are slower than molasses in wintertime.
Franklin did stay too long. Should have been canned after 2021.
 

MacNit

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Joe Paterno was an absolute embarassment to Penn State in his later years (starting around the time he bragged about kicking Spanier and Curley off of his door step). His ego was massive, he coddled his kids to the detriment of his football team, and he developed a habit of doing morally incorrect things.

I wish we'd never really speak of him. The older folk hang on to their memories, though.
Hogwash
 

MacNit

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That’s because us “older folk” actually lived through those “memories “ in real life when they actually happened. Young social media warriors like yourself are more self centered and materialistic. This new “play for pay” era we are in now is right up your alley.

The subliminal satisfaction we got from winning and doing it with true student athletes, who were guided by a genius who knew how to mesh academic success with athletic success across an entire University population, may never be matched in our lifetimes. The life lessons I personally learned from Joe surpass any I’ve learned from any contemporary human being outside of my parents.

“Absolute embarrassment to Penn State in his later years”??????? What Planet were you living on?? Watch the old game tapes. Joe got more respect from the National media than any coach in the Country. And Penn State as a whole, mainly because of the way he ran his Program, was probably the most respected and envied University in the United States of America.

Winning then, the way we did, made us special. And made the University as a whole special. Our players were with us for four or five years and usually received their degrees. We got to know them, go to class with them when we were still in school, and they became like a part of our family.

Winning now, by shaking down the fan base to funnel donations away from academics into athletics, and paying 18 to 21 year old kids to prostitute themselves from school to school while real students are strapped with student debt into their 30s or 40s, is the real “embarrassment.
This!
 

razpsu

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Joe Paterno was an absolute embarassment to Penn State in his later years (starting around the time he bragged about kicking Spanier and Curley off of his door step). His ego was massive, he coddled his kids to the detriment of his football team, and he developed a habit of doing morally incorrect things.

I wish we'd never really speak of him. The older folk hang on to their memories, though.
Dumbest post of the year award. Well done!!
 

PrtLng Lion

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I grew up adoring Joe Paterno. What he built at Penn State was extraordinary—not just in wins, but in identity. But that level of sustained greatness also created something less helpful: a standard that no longer reflects the realities of modern college football.

Paterno’s “Grand Experiment” succeeded for decades. But when the scandal broke, fairly or unfairly, Penn State became a target. The same program once criticized for doing things “the right way” was suddenly defined by its worst association. Many outside the program still take satisfaction in Penn State’s struggles—and too often, we’ve internalized that narrative ourselves.

What’s been lost in that shift is perspective.

The conditions that allowed Penn State to dominate under Paterno no longer exist. College football in 2026 is more national, more financial, and more competitive than ever. The advantages that once sustained long-term dominance have been flattened. Expecting Penn State to replicate that era—without adopting a win-at-all-costs model like the Alabama Crimson Tide football or Ohio State Buckeyes football—isn’t ambition. It’s miscalibration.

So the real question is this: when did 10-win seasons and top-10 finishes become unacceptable?

When James Franklin took over, Penn State was in one of the most compromised positions in modern college football—sanctions, scholarship limits, and a damaged reputation. His job wasn’t to maintain excellence. It was to restore relevance.

He did that.

Franklin rebuilt Penn State into a consistent national presence. His teams competed at a high level, recruited at a high level, and represented the program with stability and structure. He established a culture centered on accountability, player development, and long-term competitiveness. That kind of infrastructure is difficult to build—and easy to disrupt.

And yet, that’s exactly what happened.

This past season wasn’t defined by collapse—it was defined by margin. Close losses to teams like Oregon and Indiana weren’t evidence of systemic failure; they were examples of how thin the line is between a great season and an elite one. College football outcomes often turn on a handful of plays. In previous years, Penn State benefited from those moments. This year, it didn’t.

That’s variance—not dysfunction.

But instead of recognizing that, the knee-jerk response was to reset.

Firing Franklin midstream—while maintaining a strong recruiting class, developing young talent, and lacking a clearly superior alternative—wasn’t strategic. It was reactive. Programs that operate from impatience rarely outperform programs that operate from continuity.

There’s also a deeper issue at play: expectation drift.

A portion of the fan base has moved from wanting excellence to demanding perfection. Competing annually is no longer enough; anything short of dominance is treated as failure. But Penn State has never been, and has never claimed to be, a program that sacrifices its identity for championships. That distinction matters.

The assumption that replacing Franklin with Matt Campbell automatically raises the program’s ceiling is, at best, unproven. Coaching changes don’t occur in a vacuum—they reset systems, relationships, and recruiting pipelines. At a time when the Big Ten is becoming more competitive, not less, introducing instability carries real cost.

Just look at the landscape: Michigan Wolverines football is established, Oregon Ducks football is rising, and even programs like Indiana Hoosiers football are now “above” us. This is not the environment to voluntarily step backward in continuity and experience.

Successful programs understand this. They invest in stability. Mario Cristobal, for example, faced heavy criticism at Miami before a breakthrough season reframed his trajectory. That’s how development works—it’s not linear, but it requires patience.

Penn State chose otherwise.

With an expanded playoff, the program was entering a phase where sustained competitiveness had a clearer path to national relevance than ever before. The foundation was in place. The margin just hadn’t broken the right way yet.

Instead of building on that, we broke it.

This decision wasn’t just about one coach—it reflected a broader misunderstanding of where Penn State stands in today’s college football hierarchy. Sustained success at a high level is not failure. It’s the prerequisite to breakthrough.

Penn State had that.

Now it has uncertainty.

And uncertainty, not continuity, is what pushes programs further away from championships—not closer.
Dumb thread title and even dumber take. The only "certainty" the program had under Franklin was to fall short in the games that would have taken PSU to the next level.
 

PrtLng Lion

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Joe Paterno was an absolute embarassment to Penn State in his later years (starting around the time he bragged about kicking Spanier and Curley off of his door step). His ego was massive, he coddled his kids to the detriment of his football team, and he developed a habit of doing morally incorrect things.

I wish we'd never really speak of him. The older folk hang on to their memories, though.
Habit of doing morally incorrect things. WTF are you talking about?
 

bbrown

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Joe Paterno was an absolute embarassment to Penn State in his later years (starting around the time he bragged about kicking Spanier and Curley off of his door step). His ego was massive, he coddled his kids to the detriment of his football team, and he developed a habit of doing morally incorrect things.

I wish we'd never really speak of him. The older folk hang on to their memories, though.
Damn and here I thought the OP was idiotic. Thanks for continuing to lower the bar. :rolleyes:
 

Zenophile

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Joe Paterno was an absolute embarassment to Penn State in his later years (starting around the time he bragged about kicking Spanier and Curley off of his door step). His ego was massive, he coddled his kids to the detriment of his football team, and he developed a habit of doing morally incorrect things.

I wish we'd never really speak of him. The older folk hang on to their memories, though.
 

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Joe Paterno was an absolute embarassment to Penn State in his later years (starting around the time he bragged about kicking Spanier and Curley off of his door step). His ego was massive, he coddled his kids to the detriment of his football team, and he developed a habit of doing morally incorrect things.

I wish we'd never really speak of him. The older folk hang on to their memories, though.
Look at Pitt, Syracuse and Maryland. Without Joe, that is what PSU football would be today.
 

Marshall2323

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"Close losses to teams like Oregon and Indiana weren’t evidence of systemic failure; they were examples of how thin the line is between a great season and an elite one

and close losses to UCLA and Northwestern...
Unforgiveable. He should have been fired.....but first , he and the team (along with his family) should be loudly booed, slurred and damned for eternity by "loyal" Penn State fans. We deserve better!
 

Marshall2323

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I'm of the opinion that your OpEd in defense of Franklin would have been better presented had you started with the paragraph "When James Franklin took over...", and omitted the preamble about Paterno.

The NIL/Xfer Portal era is in many ways a clean break from all that came before it. Paterno, Bowden, Bryant, et. al. just aren't the prototypes for what it takes to win National Championships now OFF the field. Even Saban, arguably the best-ever coach on-field, said 'nope' to this new era. That's unfortunate, but that's the way it is until that mess is truly cleaned up beyond wishful rhetoric.

Franklin did a lot of really good things here, had a lot of really good seasons, including getting us thisclose to the National Championship game. But, 12 seasons of not being able to beat the uppermost echelon teams in his own conference was his undoing, not losing sight of the old altruistic season and program goals. PSU has stated with certainty that we want and will compete for National Titles in football (among other sports), and in the middle of season 12 under James, it was clear to all that he was no longer the guy to lead us there.

As you say, it is TBD under Campbell, but in October of last season the need for a fresh start was smacking friends and foes in the face. Campbell was a really good choice given the available candidates. The timing was right for him and for us, now he carries the challenge of getting us over the hump that Franklin showed repeatedly he could not. He needed to go after that 3-game losing streak, as he was no longer the right coach for the job.
An extremely accurate and reasonable position to take. Here's my question. I see that all 11 starters on OSU's 2024 defense were drafted by the 5th round in this year's NFL draft (along with some subs).
If this trend continues....aided by a massive gap in NIL spending....is it reasonable to expect better results against the likes of programs like OSU?
In the current 24/7 recruiting rankings PSU has 3 four stars and 9 three stars. By comparison, OSU has 1 five star, 6 four stars and 3 three stars.
If I purchase a Nissan Sentra, should I blame my mechanic when it doesn't perform like a Lexus LX?
James Franklin's expiration date at PSU should have been 2/1/24. It would have been best for all. But expecting "excellence at the highest level" from Matt Campbell, is unrealistic without a fundamental change in funding of the roster.
 

BobPSU92

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An extremely accurate and reasonable position to take. Here's my question. I see that all 11 starters on OSU's 2024 defense were drafted by the 5th round in this year's NFL draft (along with some subs).
If this trend continues....aided by a massive gap in NIL spending....is it reasonable to expect better results against the likes of programs like OSU?
In the current 24/7 recruiting rankings PSU has 3 four stars and 9 three stars. By comparison, OSU has 1 five star, 6 four stars and 3 three stars.
If I purchase a Nissan Sentra, should I blame my mechanic when it doesn't perform like a Lexus LX?
James Franklin's expiration date at PSU should have been 2/1/24. It would have been best for all. But expecting "excellence at the highest level" from Matt Campbell, is unrealistic without a fundamental change in funding of the roster.

We still have Success With Honor and great ice cream. That’s how we win with recruits. 😃
 

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A while back, letters appeared in 5 different papers letters to the editor bashing Joe. They were authored by "Jeffrey Imm". The problem was, Imm lived in 5 different cities.

This took a degree of sophistication to pull off and technical ability to spoof phone numbers as the papers would call the author back to establish identity. I informed the papers of the scam, and they assured me no more Imm letters would appear. None ever did.

Only 2 clowns possessed the ability to do this. One was an obsessed Stater, the other a Pitiot who was a principal of a North Hills school.
 

Bob78

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An extremely accurate and reasonable position to take. Here's my question. I see that all 11 starters on OSU's 2024 defense were drafted by the 5th round in this year's NFL draft (along with some subs).
If this trend continues....aided by a massive gap in NIL spending....is it reasonable to expect better results against the likes of programs like OSU?
In the current 24/7 recruiting rankings PSU has 3 four stars and 9 three stars. By comparison, OSU has 1 five star, 6 four stars and 3 three stars.
If I purchase a Nissan Sentra, should I blame my mechanic when it doesn't perform like a Lexus LX?
James Franklin's expiration date at PSU should have been 2/1/24. It would have been best for all. But expecting "excellence at the highest level" from Matt Campbell, is unrealistic without a fundamental change in funding of the roster.
Not disagreeing, just considering how very, very close PSU came, undermanned to some extent in any given season vs the uppermost echelon, to beating Ohio State, Weaselrines, Oregon, and now Indiana last season.
I think an argument could be made that the difference in those excruciating losses came down to coaching decisions, as opposed to being largely due to a talent imbalance.
Certainly the talent factor played a role - especially when zeroing in on some key playmaker on the other team who we heavily recruited and lost. But not enough to consistently lose those close, very winnable games, season after season, imo.
 

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Not disagreeing, just considering how very, very close PSU came, undermanned to some extent in any given season vs the uppermost echelon, to beating Ohio State, Weaselrines, Oregon, and now Indiana last season.
I think an argument could be made that the difference in those excruciating losses came down to coaching decisions, as opposed to being largely due to a talent imbalance.
Certainly the talent factor played a role - especially when zeroing in on some key playmaker on the other team who we heavily recruited and lost. But not enough to consistently lose those close, very winnable games, season after season, imo.
I could argue that it was coaching that kept it close and that the talent (as demonstrated by both recruiting rankings and NFL draft history) was clearly on the other sideline.
Remember, the most important parts of coaching are not performed on game day.
 
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rudedude

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I could argue that it was coaching that kept it close and that the talent (as demonstrated by both recruiting rankings and NFL draft history) was clearly on the other sideline.
Remember, the most important parts of coaching are not performed on game day.
It really boils down to execution under pressure. The Ohio State loss, with the baffling fourth down handoff, got blown up because a lineman went to block the wrong guy. In recent history, despite Allar making some terrific plays, he made the decision to make throws he shouldn’t have (or at least threw the ball OOB): see Oregon Big 10 champ game, ND playoff game, and Oregon OT game last year. Insert the old saying about the Jimmies and Joes here.
 

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It really boils down to execution under pressure. The Ohio State loss, with the baffling fourth down handoff, got blown up because a lineman went to block the wrong guy. In recent history, despite Allar making some terrific plays, he made the decision to make throws he shouldn’t have (or at least threw the ball OOB): see Oregon Big 10 champ game, ND playoff game, and Oregon OT game last year. Insert the old saying about the Jimmies and Joes here.
No one ever cares to discuss the much maligned 4th down OSU call by adding that the same play call a few weeks later resulted in a critical touchdown when Purdue upset the Buckeyes and the blocking was executed. It's always easier to blame the coach. Simple formula for simple minds.
 

CowbellMan

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I grew up adoring Joe Paterno. What he built at Penn State was extraordinary—not just in wins, but in identity. But that level of sustained greatness also created something less helpful: a standard that no longer reflects the realities of modern college football.

Paterno’s “Grand Experiment” succeeded for decades. But when the scandal broke, fairly or unfairly, Penn State became a target. The same program once criticized for doing things “the right way” was suddenly defined by its worst association. Many outside the program still take satisfaction in Penn State’s struggles—and too often, we’ve internalized that narrative ourselves.

What’s been lost in that shift is perspective.

The conditions that allowed Penn State to dominate under Paterno no longer exist. College football in 2026 is more national, more financial, and more competitive than ever. The advantages that once sustained long-term dominance have been flattened. Expecting Penn State to replicate that era—without adopting a win-at-all-costs model like the Alabama Crimson Tide football or Ohio State Buckeyes football—isn’t ambition. It’s miscalibration.

So the real question is this: when did 10-win seasons and top-10 finishes become unacceptable?

When James Franklin took over, Penn State was in one of the most compromised positions in modern college football—sanctions, scholarship limits, and a damaged reputation. His job wasn’t to maintain excellence. It was to restore relevance.

He did that.

Franklin rebuilt Penn State into a consistent national presence. His teams competed at a high level, recruited at a high level, and represented the program with stability and structure. He established a culture centered on accountability, player development, and long-term competitiveness. That kind of infrastructure is difficult to build—and easy to disrupt.

And yet, that’s exactly what happened.

This past season wasn’t defined by collapse—it was defined by margin. Close losses to teams like Oregon and Indiana weren’t evidence of systemic failure; they were examples of how thin the line is between a great season and an elite one. College football outcomes often turn on a handful of plays. In previous years, Penn State benefited from those moments. This year, it didn’t.

That’s variance—not dysfunction.

But instead of recognizing that, the knee-jerk response was to reset.

Firing Franklin midstream—while maintaining a strong recruiting class, developing young talent, and lacking a clearly superior alternative—wasn’t strategic. It was reactive. Programs that operate from impatience rarely outperform programs that operate from continuity.

There’s also a deeper issue at play: expectation drift.

A portion of the fan base has moved from wanting excellence to demanding perfection. Competing annually is no longer enough; anything short of dominance is treated as failure. But Penn State has never been, and has never claimed to be, a program that sacrifices its identity for championships. That distinction matters.

The assumption that replacing Franklin with Matt Campbell automatically raises the program’s ceiling is, at best, unproven. Coaching changes don’t occur in a vacuum—they reset systems, relationships, and recruiting pipelines. At a time when the Big Ten is becoming more competitive, not less, introducing instability carries real cost.

Just look at the landscape: Michigan Wolverines football is established, Oregon Ducks football is rising, and even programs like Indiana Hoosiers football are now “above” us. This is not the environment to voluntarily step backward in continuity and experience.

Successful programs understand this. They invest in stability. Mario Cristobal, for example, faced heavy criticism at Miami before a breakthrough season reframed his trajectory. That’s how development works—it’s not linear, but it requires patience.

Penn State chose otherwise.

With an expanded playoff, the program was entering a phase where sustained competitiveness had a clearer path to national relevance than ever before. The foundation was in place. The margin just hadn’t broken the right way yet.

Instead of building on that, we broke it.

This decision wasn’t just about one coach—it reflected a broader misunderstanding of where Penn State stands in today’s college football hierarchy. Sustained success at a high level is not failure. It’s the prerequisite to breakthrough.

Penn State had that.

Now it has uncertainty.

And uncertainty, not continuity, is what pushes programs further away from championships—not closer.
I missed the part where we beat the top teams at least occasionally.