Buckle up for a 20 loss season

Dr.LutherSan

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Are you capable of making one post without attacking Pope? I commented that there was no reason to excuse Cal's Covid year and you have insisted on responding with two attacks on Pope. I never mentioned him in any way. Comparing how good someone was as an assistance coach to a head coach is a pretty goofy thing to do.
I'm trying, but I see no hope in the future for UK basketball. If you do, I would love to hear it.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Is losing out on Freeman all that bad? He's had 2 foot injuries the last 2 years, can you imagine what this board would be like if Pope signed him & that happened again? Is he not from New York anyway? He played at Syracuse & St.Johns is in Queens, maybe he knew all along he was wanting to stay closer to home & used us to get more money? Maybe he asked for too much money? Does anyone think he's worth 4 million? He shot 30% from 3 last year, we could get two 40% shooters for 4 million i would think. Maybe we end up going the international route? Maybe more players jump in the portal tomorrow?
It’s bad for two reasons. He’s not worth it, but Pope has to massively overpay to get anyone to even consider coming here. His reputation is so crap now we stand no chance getting anyone. Our only hope is about 4-5 late entries when everyone else is filled up or de-commits later on. We are screwed.

Secondly anyone worth a **** that has any other options, is going to use us and dip immediately like we have now seen twice with 100% to UK guys.
 
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Are you capable of making one post without attacking Pope? I commented that there was no reason to excuse Cal's Covid year and you have insisted on responding with two attacks on Pope. I never mentioned him in any way. Comparing how good someone was as an assistance coach to a head coach is a pretty goofy thing to do.
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Is losing out on Freeman all that bad? He's had 2 foot injuries the last 2 years, can you imagine what this board would be like if Pope signed him & that happened again? Is he not from New York anyway? He played at Syracuse & St.Johns is in Queens, maybe he knew all along he was wanting to stay closer to home & used us to get more money? Maybe he asked for too much money? Does anyone think he's worth 4 million? He shot 30% from 3 last year, we could get two 40% shooters for 4 million i would think. Maybe we end up going the international route? Maybe more players jump in the portal tomorrow?
I’d say it is not. Would have been a big risk for sure. Just adds to the body of work. The Pope/Fox snowball has gained so much size and momentum. That snowball has got BBN in its sights and there isn’t a darn thing we can do to slow it down. Sucks feeling helpless and for the first time in a long time already feeling like next season is hopeless. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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TFCat11

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Pope is coaching next year no matter what. Simply nobody in the administration has the inclination or will to fire him, people just need to accept it. As for next years team NOBODY even knows who will be on it yet. To predict wins and losses without that information is infantile. Do I think Pope turns it around next year, no I don't. I think the new AD , even if its Mitches guy will have to act. All this whining and giving up on next season however is such a ***** move IMO. UK is my team and I want to see them successful. I refuse to bury a team before we even finish the roster, much less seen them play. Hell you guys need to root for somebody else until Pope is gone.
You sound like some old wino who hates women because they won’t give you the time of day, so you latch on to Pope’s sack like razor burn and yell into the void in hopes that someone GAF about your absolute ludicrous takes!

Eat a couple of prunes, take a shot of cheap bourbon and take a nap Ebenezer🍼
 

paulcalhoun_rivals397471

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Acting like it didn't makes even less.
Did the entire rest of the country play under the same conditions? I never whined incessantly about Cal like you guys do about everything anyway. The fact is that season was 100% on him and there is no way around it despite all of your delusional efforts.
 
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I'm not the one doing all the whining you guys are. I could try to talk about cars, boats, or airplanes and you idiots will come back with a Pope insult.
You're literally whining in this response.
Did the entire rest of the country play under the same conditions? I never whined incessantly about Cal like you guys do about everything anyway. The fact is that season was 100% on him and there is no way around it despite all of your delusional efforts.
No. Every state had their own laws and restrictions as did individual schools and conferences.

Again, you're literally whining about him now.
 
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Could be a 20 loss season, could be an 8 loss season, though there's a lot higher shot at the 20. There are still players that we can sign that would give us a very talented squad next year. Its getting late quick though
 
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paulcalhoun_rivals397471

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You're literally whining in this response.

No. Every state had their own laws and restrictions as did individual schools and conferences.

Again, you're literally whining about him now.
Stating fact is not whining. He had a crappy season and he was responsible. I never whined about him or demanded his removal. What state law or restriction do you claim to have caused a 9-16 season?
 

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Eddie Sutton was an excellent bench coach and had a good eye for talent. His drinking problem ruined his career at UK.
I'd say it was more so the NCAA setup that the Lexington Herald definitely bears some responsibility for that did him in at Kentucky. His turning to the bottle under the stress of it all certainly exacerbated
the situation.
 

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Barring some miraculous pickup of Tyran Stokes + Graves/Milan/Miikka/some unknown euro stud, we are heading for the worst non-covid year of Kentucky basketball since Eddie Sutton’s final season.

Our best returning player was outshined by Brandon Garrison the whole month of March and only had one double double against a power 5 opponent all season. Kam returns after scoring in double figures against P5 opponents just twice, with one being against that awful MSU team.

I actually like Alex Wilkins, but the analytics do not. Evan Miya has him ranked almost 200 spots below Jasper Johnson for last season, and his defensive metrics make me worried he could be a score 15/give up 15 type of player at this level. And there’s always the physicality of the SEC that makes it uncertain if he’ll be the high level scorer we need.

Zoom Diallo is our best pickup, but I think it’s safe to say his Washington roster last season was more talented than what we currently have…and they went 16-17. He had a lotto pick at the 4, Wesley Yates who we wanted badly last year, and several other solid transfers.

Otega’s production will be extremely difficult to replace. In SEC + postseason play he averaged 21.5 PPG, 5 RPG, 2.6 APG, and 2 stocks. He was the only star caliber player of the pope era and also did a lot of dirty work, getting into passing lanes, etc. Idk who takes on his role this year.

Oh and the ultimate kicker? We once again are looking at not having enough shooting under a coach who needs shooting to unlock his entire system. Zoom and Wilkins are solid but there’s no dead eye like Brea here. Kam was an average shooter against real comp last year. The shooters we have been connected with are low volume guys. For some reason we didn’t even seem to get in real contention for a guy like Stefan Vaaks who made 91 threes last season. The lack of high end talent is enough of an issue, but pope isn’t even building a roster that plays to his strengths either.

Pair all of this with the fact that we’ll play one of the hardest SOS’s in the country once again and it’s looking unbelievably bleak.

And maybe the most frustrating part of all of it is Pope chose to put himself at a disadvantage by not hiring a GM. Reporters pressed him on it for months and he just shrugged it off, and now look where we are. Not even targeting the real big fish and being rejected by 2nd tier guys and having to look at JMU transfers and NIT team role players.

Sorry for the long post but I just had to vent. I’m preparing myself for the ugliest season of Kentucky basketball in my adult lifetime.
But do we actually take a lead against Florida?
 

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No facts but yes I compiled all the new data and it’s very clear
In other words it is just your opinion and your desire to be negative. I've never been very confident about getting him and Oregon would not be a shock but I'll not jump to shut it down with UK as the loser before it actually plays out.
 
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Stating fact is not whining. He had a crappy season and he was responsible. I never whined about him or demanded his removal. What state law or restriction do you claim to have caused a 9-16 season?
You've yet to state a fact. You've stated opinion, that was easily disproven. What you did is whining.

Do you remember this thing called lockdowns and social distancing? Do you know the restrictions KY had compared to other states, that UK had compared to other schools? Clearly not!
 

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In other words it is just your opinion and your desire to be negative. I've never been very confident about getting him and Oregon would not be a shock but I'll not jump to shut it down with UK as the loser before it actually plays out.
Wrong and you’re just an *** . Lots of new info out there from insiders and they all agree it’s looking like Oregon . Why don’t you prove me wrong I’ll wait patiently. Show recent data that’s not all Oregon or stfu
 
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BlueCane

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I just don't see anyway out of this. Yes Stokes is still a remote possibility. Barring a big surprise, I think we are in a lot of trouble. A lot. I don't think you can over estimate how bad it could go.
 
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That has absolutely no relation to my post. I don't care much for the insinuation that Dwayne Casey was a cheater either. He won a huge lawsuit compensation over that dishonest setup.
Well, he won because you can't open someone's mail and disclose that.

I agree it was a setup in terms of everything that happened whether he did put money in or he didn't. I've worked packaging before when I was young. If something came open, you taped it up and it got sent on its way. You didn't call the LA Times.
 

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Wrong and you’re just an *** . Lots of new info out there from insiders and they all agree it’s looking like Oregon . Why don’t you prove me wrong I’ll wait patiently. Show recent data that’s not all Oregon or stfu
You stated something as fact that was indeed not fact. Now you are just butthurt because you got called on it. I have no burden of proof since I did not make any claims or definitive statements. If you had said something like "it looks like", "the info I'm seeing indicates" or "imo" I would never have called you out.
 
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paulcalhoun_rivals397471

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You've yet to state a fact. You've stated opinion, that was easily disproven. What you did is whining.

Do you remember this thing called lockdowns and social distancing? Do you know the restrictions KY had compared to other states, that UK had compared to other schools? Clearly not!
I asked you to state these supposed laws and restrictions that caused such a horrendous season and you still have not. Did Ky have a law saying UK was not allowed to win more than 9 games? Are you a Cal super friend or is this just driven by your hatred of Pope?
 
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I asked you to state these supposed laws and restrictions that caused such a horrendous season and you still have not. Did Ky have a law saying UK was not allowed to win more than 9 games? Are you a Cal super friend or is this just driven by your hatred of Pope?
But I did. It's not my job to go state by state and conference by conference for you. You know how to clearly use the internet. It's also common knowledge that states all had their own rules,.as did conferences and schools. If you choose to be ignorant about that, then that is all on you.

KY had laws that were different from say, TX, where Baylor was and who eventually won it all. While having an almost month break mid season during the season due to covid restrictions.

Neither a Cal friend nor Pope foe. Nor should you need to be either to be honest. Yet...here you are! ;)
 

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But I did. It's not my job to go state by state and conference by conference for you. You know how to clearly use the internet. It's also common knowledge that states all had their own rules,.as did conferences and schools. If you choose to be ignorant about that, then that is all on you.

KY had laws that were different from say, TX, where Baylor was and who eventually won it all. While having an almost month break mid season during the season due to covid restrictions.

Neither a Cal friend nor Pope foe. Nor should you need to be either to be honest. Yet...here you are! ;)
You can't just claim imaginary differences without identifying any of them. You claim to know what they are but refuse to share or even point in a direction. You are are a total waste of time. I'm not going to blindly go researching Covid laws and restrictions for all 50 states on a wild goose chase to refuse to accept that Cal did a terrible job with that season.
 
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You can't just claim imaginary differences without identifying any of them. You claim to know what they are but refuse to share or even point in a direction. You are are a total waste of time. I'm not going to blindly go researching Covid laws and restrictions for all 50 states on a wild goose to refuse to accept that Cal did a terrible job with that season.
But they have been provided for you. I pointed you in the direction. It was also very common knowledge unless you lived under a rock

No one has told you have to do any of those things. You're free to be a laugh stock spewing ignorance.

Yet, that won't change the reality that different states, conference, schools and what not all had different laws and guidelines they followed which advantaged some over others. Those are just the facts, girl.
 

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But they have been provided for you. I pointed you in the direction. It was also very common knowledge unless you lived under a rock

No one has told you have to do any of those things. You're free to be a laugh stock spewing ignorance.

Yet, that won't change the reality that different states, conference, schools and what not all had different laws and guidelines they followed which advantaged some over others. Those are just the facts, girl.
You are just an incorrigible clown. The fact that different states had different rules neither proves nor establishes anything. You would have had to outline exactly what they were, how that is relevant to UK BB and allow the claims to be subject to scrutiny to have any point at all. Stoops having to play an all SEC schedule would be a legitimate reason for his season. Can you provide any such specific reason for Cal or is the blanket nonsensical claim all you have? How on earth did Louisville manage to win 24 games in the same state under the same rules?
 
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