Wait hasn’t Cal been to back to back Sweet 16’s? How’d Pope do last season again?
So bottom line, is it JMI or Pope ?
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So much for the notion that all the guys care about are $. Obviously $ matter but the coach and their potential to develop you for the next level matters too.
When players family members are publicly calling you out, and when your former teammates are calling you out and when your fans and opposing fans see the disconnect, and you have a mass exodus of players and staff, you might be the problem. And I don’t buy that he lives Kentucky as much as he says. I have a hard time someone loving something that much allows it to get to this point. It’s like an abusivo husband telling his wife how much he loves her, before giving her a black eye.
Who was the insider who posted that recruits were saying “Pope is weird af and Mark Fox is somehow even weirder”? No mention of JMI
UK coaching staff, led by Mark Pope and shadowed by Mark Fox - 99%
Other factors 1%
The football and women's basketball seem to flourish using JMI.
Other factors 1%
The football and women's basketball seem to flourish using JMI.
It’s pope and to make it worse we are likely dealing with negative recruiting from other schools pretty bad
Since everyone is throwing out their conspiracy theories i will mine. Pope is a Beta Male and most highly driving athletes are Alpha males and they don't connect with Pope because of that. Pretty simple. 
Y’all better be careful. Not defending Pope will get you banned!!!Since everyone is throwing out their conspiracy theories i will mine. Pope is a Beta Male and most highly driving athletes are Alpha males and they don't connect with Pope because of that. Pretty simple.
No that's not what continuously gets you banned. It is being immature. Welcome back the 50th time. Proud of you. If pope doesn't do well this year he will be gone. I'm not gonna make up recruiting narratives. Cal only advanced one more round than us and almost lost to high point. His team lost to us at home despite having a great player in nate ament. Play again. Sweet 16s when beating high point and Hawaii I guess you can brag about.
So what you are saying is that the reason Pope struggles in recruiting is because he is a pack wolf who serves as second in commanding the pack. He is unable to get along with players who are pack wolves that serve in primarily commanding the packs? Complete nonsense. I like you, TrueBluePhil, but you’ve been listening to people like TFCat11 too much. When I say that I mean people who have no idea what alpha male or beta male even means:Since everyone is throwing out their conspiracy theories i will mine. Pope is a Beta Male and most highly driving athletes are Alpha males and they don't connect with Pope because of that. Pretty simple.
The Myth of the Alpha Male
Single straight guys: If you want to attract more women, research suggests you should cultivate kindness and altruism.
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The "alpha" and "beta" male dichotomy is a scientifically debunked, false dichotomy with no basis in human biology. It stems from flawed 1940s wolf studies (later retracted by their own author) that misinterpreted family units as competitive hierarchies. In humans, behavior is dictated by social context and complexity, not innate dominance hierarchies.
Sweet 16 is a Sweet 16. Doesn’t matter who you play go get there.
I’d rather play in Sweet 16’s rather than getting blown out in the round of 32.
Yeah you definitely don’t want to bring up recruiting narratives. Pope isn’t a pimple on Cal’s *** when it comes to recruiting.
And I find it hilarious you call someone immature on their posting . This coming from the grandpa that had to use AI because he lost the argument.
The reason posters keep getting banned is because we aren’t Pope huggers and speak the truth.
You and the Mods here have a narrative that anyone with half a brain is not buying.
All true. I believe there could be one other variable that hardly gets mentioned. The agents. I've seen so many examples of a player being down to X school and KY. When X school is eliminated, everyone believes, well, a commitment is coming soon. Then we hear it's now down to ANOTHER X school or even two and KY. What the hell happened? Could be the agents shopping for an even better deal. Agents will always act in the best interest of their own commissions.
Im not saying anything. I am just adding some more stupid conspiracy theories to the list.So what you are saying is that the reason Pope struggles in recruiting is because he is a pack wolf who serves as second in commanding the pack. He is unable to get along with players who are pack wolves that serve in primarily commanding the packs? Complete nonsense. I like you, TrueBluePhil, but you’ve been listening to people like TFCat11 too much. When I say that I mean people who have no idea what alpha male or beta male even means:
The Myth of the Alpha Male
Single straight guys: If you want to attract more women, research suggests you should cultivate kindness and altruism.
The "alpha" and "beta" male dichotomy is a scientifically debunked, false dichotomy with no basis in human biology. It stems from flawed 1940s wolf studies (later retracted by their own author) that misinterpreted family units as competitive hierarchies. In humans, behavior is dictated by social context and complexity, not innate dominance hierarchies.
It’s definitely JMI. At BYU it was the the BYU honor code and not having any boosters until they magically appeared the second he left. At UK it’s the JMI stuff. How can anyone recruit with that? Poor guy has been held back his entire career.
I wasn’t immature in my opinion no where close been on here for almost 20 years talking the good and bad
I'm not saying you unless you are 20m, poopee, or the one trolling Monday night which I'm assuming Monday night is butters, from the old boards. I'll admit pope needs to hire a real gm and another assistant though. He is getting stubborn which maybe his downfall.
I’m neither of those people only had one account BlueBloodKyFan73 had to change it to 72 after almost 2O years for a DISCUSSION board. I agree he needs to pull in some talent quickly it’s going off the board. Nor sure what dollar figure they are working with but no way they retained Potter, Noah, Kam and Hawthorn at a high price.
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It’s obviously Pope. Everyone says we make the best offers for guys. If Cal was here with this we would be loaded. End of story.
What did you say that caused the ban?
Personal attack? Or accused of being making it personal
I'll guess It's 99% Pope. I bet whoever the coach is this time next year doesn't have the same trouble recruiting. If they do I'll take my crow deep fried southern style.
My 35+ years and over a decade forward in hostile environments says otherwise.So what you are saying is that the reason Pope struggles in recruiting is because he is a pack wolf who serves as second in commanding the pack. He is unable to get along with players who are pack wolves that serve in primarily commanding the packs? Complete nonsense. I like you, TrueBluePhil, but you’ve been listening to people like TFCat11 too much. When I say that I mean people who have no idea what alpha male or beta male even means:
The Myth of the Alpha Male
Single straight guys: If you want to attract more women, research suggests you should cultivate kindness and altruism.
The "alpha" and "beta" male dichotomy is a scientifically debunked, false dichotomy with no basis in human biology. It stems from flawed 1940s wolf studies (later retracted by their own author) that misinterpreted family units as competitive hierarchies. In humans, behavior is dictated by social context and complexity, not innate dominance hierarchies.
I have decided to for sure never argue with this clown. He starts name calling when he is questioned and talks about poop stains in 200lb women’s panties. He is not a serious poster. What some of these pumpers don’t understand, we don’t hate Pope. We love UK basketball. Pope is a nice guy, just a putrid coach. Maybe the worst in the whole conference. My response from now on will be, “do you expect MP to win a national championship at UK?” No one serious could say yes.
Womens basketball just signed the best class in UK history also.
Maybe she is the bowling alley.You’re the type of dude who would believe your ole lady is bowling on Sundays when the bowling alley is closed.
"First off I'm on my phone. Who uses a computer to be on here."
I said it before and i will say it again if POPE truly loves the University of Kentucky he should step down NOW, the longer this drags out the harder it's going to be to rebuild our PROGRAM back to where it Belongs. I do not dislike Pope i wanted him to succeed but it's painfully obvious to me that he is in over his head, MITCH BARNHART and ELI both need to be forced out immediately because I truly believe they do not care if the Men's Basketball Program is successful or not. STAND UP AND BE HEARD BBN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That gets sorted out quick forward, it’s all about action, making **** happen, talk ends the moment your feet hit dirt.
I’m not sure why this is a question. How many players has Pope got to the nba? Kinda of obvious to me for the amount of years he’s been coaching.