you may be confusing cause and effect, but by all means carry onOur budget could have been $50,000,000 and it wouldn’t have mattered. He checked out early and his team was unprepared.
you may be confusing cause and effect, but by all means carry onOur budget could have been $50,000,000 and it wouldn’t have mattered. He checked out early and his team was unprepared.
I totally agree; both the coach and a lot of the players checked out after losing the Oregon game, which was a disgrace because that loss didn't have to define the season. Thankfully, a true Penn Stater did a great job in recovering some pride after he took over.Our budget could have been $50,000,000 and it wouldn’t have mattered. He checked out early and his team was unprepared.
I don't compare the Iowa loss to the UCLA and Northwestern losses for many reasons, but that was another loss against a program that probably spends much less than PSU.If Penn State was better-NIL.‘ed last season, why were they such an embarrassing SH|T. SHOW.
against UCLA and northwestern? Besides, I thought Franklin, Kraft, and Neeli were well
malignedaligned.
Bingo! Who recruited and developed those players? Despite not having anywhere near top 10 NIL money? In fact PSU stood at #8 in number of roster spots in the NFL last fall.I've accepted that PSU isn't going be near the top in NIL; you don't have to keep saying it as it is what it is. PSU also isn't a pauper and has more money to spend than probably 90% of the other programs in the country. It had enough NIL to make it to the Final Four in 2024 and be ranked as the preseason #2 team in 2025.
Also, you talk about doing more with less. Let's see. In the 2025 draft, PSU had two first round draft picks and several other players who were drafted, and in the 2026 draft, PSU is going to have a first round draft pick and up to eight players are projected to be drafted. My guess is that in the 2025 and 2026 drafts combined, PSU probably is in the top five or six schools for drafted players.
Bingo! Who recruited and developed those players? Despite not having anywhere near top 10 NIL money? In fact PSU stood at #8 in number of roster spots in the NFL last fall.
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Individual achievement (reaching the nfl) along with 5 top 10 finishes.
But We Deserve Better! Imagine what "Excellence at the highest level" is going to feel like.
Easy explanation. After being cash starved for so long, everyone skipped practice to go shopping.If Penn State was better-NIL.‘ed last season, why were they such an embarrassing SH|T. SHOW.
against UCLA and northwestern? Besides, I thought Franklin, Kraft, and Neeli were well
malignedaligned.
Does he have Campbell's phone number yet?We still have KSD, Kraft stress disorder.
Judging by the fan reaction at Beaver....the "loyal" fanbase checked out first.I totally agree; both the coach and a lot of the players checked out after losing the Oregon game, which was a disgrace because that loss didn't have to define the season. Thankfully, a true Penn Stater did a great job in recovering some pride after he took over.
We're undefeated so farI’ve never experienced excellence before. Can’t wait!
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If you have accepted that PSU isn't going to compete with the top programs in NIL and are satisfied that PSU is spending more than 90% of other programs.....then the results of the last decade should be satisfactory. The disconnect IMO, is with the entitled and delusional fans who think PSU is a top 5 program. When the past 300 games indicated PSU is more accurately a 10-15 program. Franklin's record over almost 150 games here is actually slightly better than the 150 games before his arrival.I've accepted that PSU isn't going be near the top in NIL; you don't have to keep saying it as it is what it is. PSU also isn't a pauper and has more money to spend than probably 90% of the other programs in the country. It had enough NIL to make it to the Final Four in 2024 and be ranked as the preseason #2 team in 2025.
Also, you talk about doing more with less. Let's see. In the 2025 draft, PSU had two first round draft picks and several other players who were drafted, and in the 2026 draft, PSU is going to have a first round draft pick and up to eight players are projected to be drafted. My guess is that in the 2025 and 2026 drafts combined, PSU probably is in the top five or six schools for drafted players.
It sucks that he insulted you personally like that. I'd be pissed too.Right. He’s telling USA Today his NIL budget was only $7,000,000. He told me last season that he didn’t want to coach at Penn State anymore based on his team’s unpreparedness.
Pat Kraft hasn't either.I’ve never experienced excellence before. Can’t wait!
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The "Pennsylvania boy with the Penn State heart."This should help us all move on from Franklin:
"You go through that deal, and you're thinking, I don't want to let them off the hook financially," Franklin said. "That's something you're struggling with. But it wasn't about me penalizing Penn State. At that point, it was about what do I need to do for my family and for myself to be happy and move on?"
We upgraded by getting Campbell and VT upgraded by getting Franklin. It worked out for everyone.If you have accepted that PSU isn't going to compete with the top programs in NIL and are satisfied that PSU is spending more than 90% of other programs.....then the results of the last decade should be satisfactory. The disconnect IMO, is with the entitled and delusional fans who think PSU is a top 5 program. When the past 300 games indicated PSU is more accurately a 10-15 program. Franklin's record over almost 150 games here is actually slightly better than the 150 games before his arrival.
But no matter, we have entered the Pat Kraft era of "excellence at the highest level."
It’s all an unregulated mess but how does anyone know:
The rumors are so rampant about NIL that even Cignetti had to step in to dispel one:
Not a chance, have you met some of our fans? They don't move on from anythingThis should help us all move on from Franklin:
"You go through that deal, and you're thinking, I don't want to let them off the hook financially," Franklin said. "That's something you're struggling with. But it wasn't about me penalizing Penn State. At that point, it was about what do I need to do for my family and for myself to be happy and move on?"
We upgraded by getting Campbell and VT upgraded by getting Franklin. It worked out for everyone.
Not me personally. All Penn State fans. You wouldn’t understand, but I think almost all Penn State fans would.It sucks that he insulted you personally like that. I'd be pissed too.
Are you sure? Sounds like maybe CJF checked out after Kraft didn't want to renegotiate his contract.Judging by the fan reaction at Beaver....the "loyal" fanbase checked out first.
If the "true" Penn Stater did such a great job.....why isn't HE the head coach?
He will after his upcoming 7-6 season.Are you sure? Sounds like maybe CJF checked out after Kraft didn't want to renegotiate his contract.
Has he asked VT for a new contract yet?
We upgraded by getting Campbell- remains to be seenWe upgraded by getting Campbell and VT upgraded by getting Franklin. It worked out for everyone.
Most coaches would’ve been an upgrade from Brent Pry, so that’s not saying a lot.We upgraded by getting Campbell- remains to be seen
VT upgraded by getting Franklin- yep
What is it about Franklin that you so like?We upgraded by getting Campbell- remains to be seen
VT upgraded by getting Franklin- yep
Until games are playedWe upgraded by getting Campbell and VT upgraded by getting Franklin. It worked out for everyone.
They've gotten over Jay......Not a chance, have you met some of our fans? They don't move on from anything![]()
I'm trying to get into the club. Pretty exclusive. I started in 1966, still have high hopes to be a "loyal" fan.Not me personally. All Penn State fans. You wouldn’t understand, but I think almost all Penn State fans would.
The Kraft/Franklin dynamic didn't start and end with that. It goes back to a fundamental disagreement over the timing and scope of the stadium renovation. Kraft promised Franklin that extra cash would be available for the signing of top recruits prior to the new 7/1 NIL regulations. When other groups started to question the scope of the renovation, Kraft asked Franklin to meet with people and support the project....which he did.Are you sure? Sounds like maybe CJF checked out after Kraft didn't want to renegotiate his contract.
Has he asked VT for a new contract yet?
Blasphemy! Campbell does everything better......it says so from all the "real" PSU fans right here.We upgraded by getting Campbell- remains to be seen
VT upgraded by getting Franklin- yep
What is it about him you don't like? I've had my suspicions about many for some time.What is it about Franklin that you so like?
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41.5 million over 5 years and 9 million from PSU. I think that's 10 million per. He got his raise. He's getting more than Campbell annually. HAHA....Are you sure? Sounds like maybe CJF checked out after Kraft didn't want to renegotiate his contract.
Has he asked VT for a new contract yet?
Blasphemy! Campbell does everything better......it says so from all the "real" PSU fans right here.
8 year 70.5 million fully guaranteed.What is Campbell’s buyout? How many more years?
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The "Pennsylvania boy with the Penn State heart."
Imagine if Franklin would have done for PSU what we have?The "Pennsylvania boy with the Penn State heart."
8 year 70.5 million fully guaranteed.
It appears that there will never be any posts concerning contract here for at least that long. Smooth sailing on the good ship S.S. Kraft/Campbell.
Imagine if Franklin would have done for PSU what we have?
I'm sad. With Franklin gone and excellence at the highest level achieved, the BWICAC will be forced to disband. No loses, no coaching mistakes, this place will be a ghost town.I laugh at Franklin.
My lord you're ridiculousI'm sad. With Franklin gone and excellence at the highest level achieved, the BWICAC will be forced to disband. No loses, no coaching mistakes, this place will be a ghost town.![]()