JDF going to Bama...
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who is the one basketball player you don't want to lose. You have to pick one. Jamarion Davis-Fleming King Grace Sergej Macura For me, it's Davis Fleming. Has the upside to be a decent low post player for us. The rest are replaceable. I did like the way Grace plays but damn his shot is ugly.
I’ve said this before, but we are just a farm league for the rest of the SEC. It’s so depressing.
I feel safe in saying that there isn’t another conference that comes anywhere close to the SEC when it comes to eating its own
He'll average 20 next year, and be an All-American his Junior year. Kids don't want to play for Jans, it becomes more and more obvious each season.
If we had known that he wanted to get into criminal behavior without consequences we could have worked something into the NIL paperwork.
We sucked with him. So we can suck without him. PUt that money to football.
Jans may be a part but money is the much bigger part.
He’ll have to toughen up. There were a few times he went down with what you’d have thought was a season ending injury, had to be helped off the court. All to be perfectly fine by the next game. I swear you’d have to break my ankle for me to not walk off a basketball court under my own power.
State players leave and go to UCLA and Alabama and incoming guys coming from Kennesaw State.
I want to stay positive but it's really 17ing difficult sometimes.
I want to stay positive but it's really 17ing difficult sometimes.
They can go there and be backup role players. Both of them are B grade on their best day ever
It’s really hard to be positive about men’s basketball right now. I don’t see one reason.
Hubbard is great but we proved this year he can’t do it alone.
The women look to have kept the cornerstones and added some interesting pieces. Just based on that, it looks like we’ve devoted more resources to that team for next year. I know they were out beating the bushes for NIL specifically for that sport.
Football the outlook isn’t great, but you can at least rationalize some optimism based on Kamario. (Like Hubbard, though, he can’t do it himself)
And this is why they want us to give money guys! So we can watch our players go to conference rivals!! Great work Jans! It amazes me that people still tote water for Jans. Murph, Nwoko, JDF. This ain’t just about money. It’s clear that he is most of the problem. Guys done want to play for him and his record sucks.
Im not sure why Jans bothers to recruit high school players. I cant remember the last time the croot didn't transfer out after his first year. Except Hubbard. Errbody be leavin
Yeah, we’re kinda in a rut now where none of our HS kids are worth paying to stick around and develop, but then we’re getting replacements from the portal that aren’t any better.
Once upon a time, I had high hopes for Jans, but I’m not loving his chances to make it past next season right now. This roster is a disaster
Losing most HS players is frustrating.
But we made the tournament 3 years in a row before this season. The doomed revisionist history in this thread is…interesting.
But we made the tournament 3 years in a row before this season. The doomed revisionist history in this thread is…interesting.
Im not sure we have any idea if they are worth keeping around to develop. But I agree about the replacements. If he was signing some star transfers I could go along. But the junk he signs I would rather throw the kids out there to get some experience. Gonna lose anyway.
The money is available. Now oftentimes it's Jans' coaching style - soft guys don't like playing for him or getting screamed at; sometimes we do let guys go without much of a fight because Jans thinks they are soft or have an attitude problem; sometimes a guy just doesn't see a future here and wants to go win somewhere else; or maybe sometimes just call it 'prestige' to jump ship and announce you're going to another program... but there are reasons these guys are transferring out that is not as simple as getting more money. We can pay them.
I do also think the Nate Oats (who is a human POS by the way) and Bruce Pearl 'win at all cost' types will overpay a guy to come sit on their bench just to make sure to keep teams like us down. Call it the Bear Bryant recruiting strategy. And if you've got a young guy with some upside potential -- especially a tall thin guy like JDF who fits the Oats mold -- he's tailor made for them to pay him more than he's worth for a year and see what happens, and as a bonus get him off our roster.
And JDF will never be a perimeter player(he's low post only from what I could see from his skillset and specifically his FT shooting) and that's one thing Oats said they needed more of - low post presence.
Shawn Jones Jr. was the only player in the SEC that got to celebrate Senior day with the school he stayed at for 4 years.
I tip my hat to him.
I think Oats just sees a tall skinny young 4 star and starts drooling. I don't think he gives a shiit what position he plays or if he ever plays defense, as long as he can run the court.
Maybe I'm the one who's wrong, but it would be nice for the program's talent level to go up or at least level out the longer a coach is here, not go down.
I do think Jans is a good basketball coach, but he burned through a lot of good will with last years portal class. I know it's early, but its not looking good for next year either. If the program under his watch can't get or retain enough talent to compete, how long does MSU let it ride?
Jans will get next season. Make the tournament - he will get a couple of more years. If he doesn't - he's gone.
He's going to get paid to play a few minutes and rest the starters when it's a blowout. I'll eat crow if I'm wrong but he'll never be a regular starter there
Wouldn't hurt my feelings
DAMMIT JDF!!! I used to like you. Now you will live the rest of your life never being able to wash that Bama stank off.