Here is a realistic no bs PLAN. If you have another or one different- share it.

Perd Hapley said:

I mean, you can’t cut anything. The second that MSU cuts any sport with out another presumably even less profitable one taking its place…..we officially become an FCS school.

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leeinator said:

I like football and have season tickets.
I like basketball and attend a game or two every season.
I LOVE baseball and have chairback season tickets. If baseball did not have a "house note", it would be a big-time money maker. It made money hand over foot back in Polk's heyday.

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bulldoghair said:

Here is a realistic, no bs plan of what Mississippi State athletic department could do to be the absolute best it could be under current 2025-26 revenue sharing and NIL rules.

The House settlement allows schools to share up to $20.5 million per year directly with athletes across all sports. There is no strict legal percentage cap per sport- the $20.5M is a school wide total.

In practice, most Power 4 schools allocate 70-85%+ of the pool to football and men’s basketball.

For us, $16.4 million would be 80% of the $20.5M pool.
This would be aggressive but doable. Top programs like Texas, Georgia, and Ohio State are already in the $15–18M range for football.

We need to drastically cut spending on non revenue sports- baseball, women’s basketball, tennis, soccer, track, golf, etc.
Current non revenue spending combined is $25–30 million per year- including the large deficits in baseball and women’s basketball.

Being aggressive and going barebones the realistic floor would cut it to $12 – $15 million total across all non revenue sports- down from $25–30M now.

This would free up $10 – $15 million in redirected funds that could be pushed toward football- via rev share, facilities, NIL collectives, etc.

Funnel all or most all NIL/Collectives to football. NIL collectives are third party and not capped the same way as the $20.5M school rev-share. In an all in scenario, we could push $12 – $18 million+ through football specific collectives. Top programs like Texas and Georgia are already in that range or just a little higher.

If we went full “football first” and maximized every lever- we could have a realistic football investment of roughly $31 – $42 million per year.

This would put MSU in the top 10 nationally for football spending.
A $31–42 million annual football budget would be transformative.

We could compete for top-10 classes consistently
World-class weight room, nutrition, recovery, player lounge- the small edges that turn good players into great ones.
Higher salaries for better coaches and assistants.
Most likely 9–11 win seasons regularly with legitimate SEC title and playoff contention.

Football is the only sport that can generate real profit at MSU. If the goal is to be the very best they can be, the drastic move is to maximize football spending by minimizing non revenue losses and aggressively funneling every available dollar (rev-share + NIL + boosters) into football. This is exactly what the top programs are already doing. We are currently leaving money on the table by continuing to subsidize large deficits in baseball and women’s basketball while football struggles to compete. Football is the only sport that generates real profit. Maximizing it creates a much larger surplus that lifts the ENTIRE department. This HAS to be THE plan going forward. If anyone disagrees then lay it out. I’ve been saying this since the NIL/portal started. If we are not united in thís funneling plan- that we would get left behind in everything- and the that the holes only grow deeper.

If you don’t like this plan- then lay out one instead of just whining.

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paindonthurt said:

I can believe you and @OG Goat Holder arent ADs and conference commissioners

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bulldoghair said:

Ok got it- Your master plan is just hire the best coach in the country and money magically appears. No need to fix the huge leaks that football is currently subsidizing and missing out on. Just wave the “hire a good coach” wand and suddenly more rev sharing, NIL, portal talent, facilities, and donors all rain down from heaven.

Brilliant. Why didn’t we think of that sooner?

Let’s just call Curt Cignetti tomorrow and offer him the job. Or better yet, bring back Nick Saban. Problem solved. The deficits disappear, the money rolls in, and we never have to make another tough decision again. It’s the athletic department version of “just buy more lottery tickets and you’ll be rich.”

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bulldoghair said:

Here is a realistic, no bs plan of what Mississippi State athletic department could do to be the absolute best it could be under current 2025-26 revenue sharing and NIL rules.

The House settlement allows schools to share up to $20.5 million per year directly with athletes across all sports. There is no strict legal percentage cap per sport- the $20.5M is a school wide total.

In practice, most Power 4 schools allocate 70-85%+ of the pool to football and men’s basketball.

For us, $16.4 million would be 80% of the $20.5M pool.
This would be aggressive but doable. Top programs like Texas, Georgia, and Ohio State are already in the $15–18M range for football.

We need to drastically cut spending on non revenue sports- baseball, women’s basketball, tennis, soccer, track, golf, etc.
Current non revenue spending combined is $25–30 million per year- including the large deficits in baseball and women’s basketball.

Being aggressive and going barebones the realistic floor would cut it to $12 – $15 million total across all non revenue sports- down from $25–30M now.

This would free up $10 – $15 million in redirected funds that could be pushed toward football- via rev share, facilities, NIL collectives, etc.

Funnel all or most all NIL/Collectives to football. NIL collectives are third party and not capped the same way as the $20.5M school rev-share. In an all in scenario, we could push $12 – $18 million+ through football specific collectives. Top programs like Texas and Georgia are already in that range or just a little higher.

If we went full “football first” and maximized every lever- we could have a realistic football investment of roughly $31 – $42 million per year.

This would put MSU in the top 10 nationally for football spending.
A $31–42 million annual football budget would be transformative.

We could compete for top-10 classes consistently
World-class weight room, nutrition, recovery, player lounge- the small edges that turn good players into great ones.
Higher salaries for better coaches and assistants.
Most likely 9–11 win seasons regularly with legitimate SEC title and playoff contention.

Football is the only sport that can generate real profit at MSU. If the goal is to be the very best they can be, the drastic move is to maximize football spending by minimizing non revenue losses and aggressively funneling every available dollar (rev-share + NIL + boosters) into football. This is exactly what the top programs are already doing. We are currently leaving money on the table by continuing to subsidize large deficits in baseball and women’s basketball while football struggles to compete. Football is the only sport that generates real profit. Maximizing it creates a much larger surplus that lifts the ENTIRE department. This HAS to be THE plan going forward. If anyone disagrees then lay it out. I’ve been saying this since the NIL/portal started. If we are not united in thís funneling plan- that we would get left behind in everything- and the that the holes only grow deeper.

If you don’t like this plan- then lay out one instead of just whining.

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bulldoghair said:

Keep on saying “it’s impossible” without reading the numbers. That’s worked great so far. Lazy asss.

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bulldoghair said:

Indiana turned things around with a massive, sustained investment in facilities, NIL, coaching, and culture.

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bulldoghair said:

That “real” money moved can also help hire a good coach and good assistant coaches.

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bulldoghair said:

We don’t need those type of people holding our entire administration hostage. My plan has balls and can move forward without them.

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The Peeper said:

Then you don't need their contributions either then

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Anon1774962825 said:

People catering to them for Their contributions have resulted in a net negative for the university for the past 50 years.

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The Peeper said:

Then it can get larger w/out their future contributions. Funny how the Excellence Fund, 1878, Bulldog Initiative, NIL all request even small monthly donations but you and doghair don't want them from non revenue sports fans though, all while not having a clue when one of them may be a large donor

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The Peeper said:

Any of you ever been members of a Country Club? The athletic dept of most schools have to operate like a Country Club. There are some members of the Country Club that use the golf course and restaurant/bar and that's it, nothing else. Other members play tennis, swim, and eat and that's it, nothing else. Some that only use the restaurant and pool and maybe play bingo on game night and attend holiday parties and that's it. None of those different activities would fund the entire Country Club standalone by themselves, but put all the different type members together and many clubs operate fine.

I've been a member of 3 different clubs over the years and have seen this happen at every one of them. The club will decide the pool isn't worth having because of insurance cost, cost of chemicals, electricity to run the pumps, lifeguards etc. so they will close the pool to save money. What happens then? They save money obviously from the pool expenses being cut, but, lose members that never used the golf course or played tennis but they came to the club to swim and eat. Since the wife and kids could no longer swim all that was left for them was maybe the restaurant so the wives said screw this we aren't paying this membership just to fund golf. Those members helped fund the golf course and everything else w/ their dollars even though they never used the golf course or tennis.

One club we were members of needed the tennis courts resurfaced and overhead lights replaced for night play. The club and members argued awhile but the club finally said nope too expensive we need some new equipment for the golf course and closed them. The members that regularly played tennis took their restaurant money and pool money and golf money and terminated their memberships. The club didn't have to resurface courts or buy lighting but they lost revenues because the tennis member dues were gone. One club we were members of cut the restaurant open days from 6 days a week to 3 on Friday, Saturday, Sunday only to save labor cost, gas, electricity etc. The members that regularly ate lunch, brought customers or friends to dinner, and the ladies that played bridge two days a week said screw this and pulled out.

So, those that advocate closing the pool or tennis courts or restaurant or whatever need to account for lost contributions from those that are going to say screw this if we can't swim we aren't going to pay for golf. We have lots of donors that are going to say the same thing, no more women's basketball or soccer or baseball or whatever are going to walk and say screw this I'm going and taking my NIL and 1878 or Excellence Fund money with me. Donors that support those non revenue sports fund way more than just those sports with their NIL, 1878 and Excellence fund donations.

In your financial scenario doghair are you accounting for those that don't give a damn about football but love their school and their women's basketball or soccer or baseball or whatever sport and will take ALL their other donations with them when their sport is cut because they don't give a damn about football? Just a thought...................

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bulldoghair said:

Here is a realistic, no bs plan of what Mississippi State athletic department could do to be the absolute best it could be under current 2025-26 revenue sharing and NIL rules.

The House settlement allows schools to share up to $20.5 million per year directly with athletes across all sports. There is no strict legal percentage cap per sport- the $20.5M is a school wide total.

In practice, most Power 4 schools allocate 70-85%+ of the pool to football and men’s basketball.

For us, $16.4 million would be 80% of the $20.5M pool.
This would be aggressive but doable. Top programs like Texas, Georgia, and Ohio State are already in the $15–18M range for football.

We need to drastically cut spending on non revenue sports- baseball, women’s basketball, tennis, soccer, track, golf, etc.
Current non revenue spending combined is $25–30 million per year- including the large deficits in baseball and women’s basketball.

Being aggressive and going barebones the realistic floor would cut it to $12 – $15 million total across all non revenue sports- down from $25–30M now.

This would free up $10 – $15 million in redirected funds that could be pushed toward football- via rev share, facilities, NIL collectives, etc.

Funnel all or most all NIL/Collectives to football. NIL collectives are third party and not capped the same way as the $20.5M school rev-share. In an all in scenario, we could push $12 – $18 million+ through football specific collectives. Top programs like Texas and Georgia are already in that range or just a little higher.

If we went full “football first” and maximized every lever- we could have a realistic football investment of roughly $31 – $42 million per year.

This would put MSU in the top 10 nationally for football spending.
A $31–42 million annual football budget would be transformative.

We could compete for top-10 classes consistently
World-class weight room, nutrition, recovery, player lounge- the small edges that turn good players into great ones.
Higher salaries for better coaches and assistants.
Most likely 9–11 win seasons regularly with legitimate SEC title and playoff contention.

Football is the only sport that can generate real profit at MSU. If the goal is to be the very best they can be, the drastic move is to maximize football spending by minimizing non revenue losses and aggressively funneling every available dollar (rev-share + NIL + boosters) into football. This is exactly what the top programs are already doing. We are currently leaving money on the table by continuing to subsidize large deficits in baseball and women’s basketball while football struggles to compete. Football is the only sport that generates real profit. Maximizing it creates a much larger surplus that lifts the ENTIRE department. This HAS to be THE plan going forward. If anyone disagrees then lay it out. I’ve been saying this since the NIL/portal started. If we are not united in thís funneling plan- that we would get left behind in everything- and the that the holes only grow deeper.

If you don’t like this plan- then lay out one instead of just whining.

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GhostOfJackie said:

So you are saying (if I interpret this, it's difficult) that we need to squeeze sports like baseball to concentrate more on football? Baseball, like the one sport that we care most about as fans? The one sport that we have our only national championship in and the best facilities in the nation? The sport that we spend more than any other school on?

In my opinion, we will never be able to spend as much on football as some of the big guys, so we just need to stay competitive and maximize our 7-8-9 win seasons when we can. We can't go all out on football and get close to where we need to be, to be one of the big boys in the sport.

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bulldoghair said:

Anon’s response back to you is to the point.

You’re still stuck in the same old loop.
“But we love baseball” and “we’ll never be the big boys anyway” isn’t a plan- it’s surrender dressed up as realism. It’s the comfortable excuse that keeps us stuck as an entire athletic department. It’s the excuse that hijackers use to manipulate and control funds for their money losing sport. Our plan is only plan and path forward for us now in today’s world of college athletics. We have to maximize and consolidate to get the snow ball rolling and get this department train rolling. When football gets stronger- The surplus grows.

We’re self sabotaging- and being hijacked handicapped because the leadership positions are too afraid to make the tough call. They’re controlled, neutered, and cucked.

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