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1. Yes, they will - or would - put a strain on the power grid if those facilities were just added to the current grid with no additional supply, but of course that's not the case. The utility companies, Entergy and MS Power at least, are always and now more rapidly trying to expand what they can supply. It's very expensive and time consuming, so there may be some times where it's difficult to keep up. But they are working on it.My question . Don't want to be "chicken little" but will these centers put a significant strain on our power grid someday ? If they will it might be the "nudge" needed for me to buy a whole house generator .
Amazon Continues to Invest Billions in Mississippi
The growth theory is long term - so if millions and millions of dollars are now coming in and can be spent on making great school systems and infrastructure (roads, utilities, bridges, police, local amenities etc.) - more companies and people will move to your area long term, which is true growth.
I get all that, I've heard it before. But most of those schools are already good and even if you pour money into a bad school, it's not going to become good unless you remove the bad elements. Just facts.
If they keep getting located here there will be NGCC plants put in to power them somewhere nearby to avoid disruptions. We are close enough to gas hubs that pipeline capacity shouldn't be an issue either. Not super informed on that, but that's my guess. Just not capacity available otherwise and dI would think they'd rather deal with gas pipeline costs instead of transmission lines because they can lock in the cost of that gas pipeline capacity a lot more easily than they can the transmission costs, and they're less susceptible to disruption from weather events.My question . Don't want to be "chicken little" but will these centers put a significant strain on our power grid someday ? If they will it might be the "nudge" needed for me to buy a whole house generator .
Amazon Continues to Invest Billions in Mississippi
Keep in mind that every one of these data center projects, at least the ones that will be energized via the electric power grid, begin with a very early agreement between the developer and the electric utility holding the certificate. Those agreements provide for a cost to extend power to the project location and an associated rate that will be paid by the end user that encompasses all of the costs associated with getting power to the site and providing power to the site. Theoretically, the rate charged to the data center end user provides for cost recovery to the utility so that there is little to no impact on existing rate payers. The broader message that I have been hearing from electric utilities is that data centers, in particular, will be required to pay for the impacts they cause to grid stability or the impact they cause to rate structures so that existing customers see no real impact. What gets lost on most, however, is that there has always been electric rate uncertainty due to factors that have nothing to do with the presence or absence of data centers. Hell, ask Entergy customers what happens to electricity bills when there are shocks in the oil markets or natural gas markets.My question . Don't want to be "chicken little" but will these centers put a significant strain on our power grid someday ? If they will it might be the "nudge" needed for me to buy a whole house generator .
Amazon Continues to Invest Billions in Mississippi
They are not the best for jobs, but if we get a cluster, there will be jobs serving them. And the money itself creates jobs. WIth the way these are coming in, there is going to be enough money made on these long term projects that it will support more jobs going forward just because there will be more people in the community with money to spend.
The few jobs arguement is somewhat misleading. In addition to permanent jobs, there’ll be many contractors - electrical, HVAC, janitorial, etc., working in those centers daily. That’s just the interior. occasionally, you’ll also have roofing contractors, asphalt contractors, fencing contractors, etc.
I agree with your Jackson comment - would love to see money flowing in to help JPS, water system, storm sewer system, sanitary sewer system, potholes, police, etc.
Save a lot of money and buy a 3 fuel generator. Hire an electrician, or do it yourself, to install a circuit breaker kill switch that reroutes power from your generator. If you’re using natural gas you’ll need a line run to where your generator will be. If you want a permanent structure to house the generator there’s all kinds of diy plans on YouTube. All in should be under 2500.My question . Don't want to be "chicken little" but will these centers put a significant strain on our power grid someday ? If they will it might be the "nudge" needed for me to buy a whole house generator .
Amazon Continues to Invest Billions in Mississippi
Really more about Madison where the existing ones are. And apparently Meridian schools are rated well too.
This is a good explanation. These projects are phased over years, as are the required utility upgrades. The construction is over time, as is the electric load buildup. The MPSC and its electric utilities are designing these projects to have downward pressure on rates for all. Other area may have done things differently.
Between these things, electric vehicles, and an extreme reluctance to build new power plants or make needed improvements to the grid infrastructure, there's a time bomb ticking and just waiting till it's time to explode.
LOL I'm gonna take that as a thumbs up on buying a generator .
You make a good point about not really being able to compare Madison County's per capita income to other Mississippi Counties.
Yep our national power grid is woefully behind and not adequate to keep up with the future demand.
It's not even adequate to keep up with current demand. Remember all the outages in Texas & California a couple of years ago. Those are just the tip of the iceberg.
Mississippi is the perfect place for placement of modernized versions of these things, which are about 1/10 of that size. What is not clear to me is what the modernized versions (even though MUCH smaller) will cost to construct and bring on line.
You're giving them too much credit. Jackson wouldn't be where it is now if it's politicians had the vision to use graft for something that practical and life enhancing.
I believe this statement. But I also believe that the utilities can manipulate the ratepayer impact measure tests with non-crazy looking assumptions such that they can make those results say more or less waht they want within reason, and it's hard for the MPSC or its staff to pick it apart. If they are all on the same page politically, definitely the public can't tell if what they are saying matches reality and by the time we know for sure, there will be things they can point to like fuel prices, or natural disasters or whatever that make it hard to identify costs from new demand.
We are selling things we don’t know we are selling…My question . Don't want to be "chicken little" but will these centers put a significant strain on our power grid someday ? If they will it might be the "nudge" needed for me to buy a whole house generator .
Amazon Continues to Invest Billions in Mississippi
Data centers are also - in an indirect way - funding the necessary improvements to gas systems that are needed to fuel the growth on the power side.
There is not a reluctance to build power plants. Quite the opposite. There is a 5-7 year queue in the gas turbine market. Entergy alone is building new generation in Greenville, Vicksburg and Ridgeland by the end of the decade. Not to mention TVA’s plans in Mississippi and aXI in Southaven.
Yeah, the legislature is going to spend extra revenue on education
You should go on tour.
We actually have a county alderman that posted here on it. The tax stays in the county, dipshlt.Yeah, the legislature is going to spend extra revenue on education
