POTUS executive order -- 5 total years + 1 transfer limit starting Aug 1?

PSUbluTX said:

Surprised to not see this posted yet. Thoughts?

Executive order aims to limit NCAA athletes to 5 years, 1 transfer

An executive order signed by President Donald Trump on Friday aims to limit NCAA athletes to a five-year playing window and how often they can transfer between schools.

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Jim Jordan sat beside the President at the NCAA’s in Philly (2025) and vigorously talked about something. I’m guessing that it was protecting Olympic sports like wrestling. Yeah - this EO will get jammed up in the courts, but, the Prez forcefully pushed the issue of Olympic sports UP on the agenda. Eventually something will emerge out of the legislative process and it’s more likely (due to Trump’s effort) to include some protections for the so called “minor sports”.

PSUbluTX said:

Surprised to not see this posted yet. Thoughts?

Executive order aims to limit NCAA athletes to 5 years, 1 transfer

An executive order signed by President Donald Trump on Friday aims to limit NCAA athletes to a five-year playing window and how often they can transfer between schools.

www.espn.com

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Gee, another "go nowhere executive order." I wonder why it hasn't drawn great interest.

OldMatCoach said:

The payments have been going on for decades. My cousin, Frank, who went on to play linebacker for 13 seasons including a Super Bowl and Pro Bowls with the Eagles played way back in the early 1970's for Kentucky. He had a bigger cash offer from Ohio State but was from Lexington and wanted to play for KY. He was given a car year round plus $1200 a month during football season by KY boosters, mainly one big horse farm owner. (he said). That is around 10K a month in today's dollars. Minimum wage was like $1.20 back then. He had a phantom job that he never had to show up for. I really don't know how much he got but did ride in his Thunderbird from a local dealership. Those kinds of things can never be stopped, but the insane amounts of dollars handed out and the transfer carousel has to be reined in. If wrestlers are getting the amounts we hear, hoopers have to be be getting way over "Jax Money."

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Even if they do not put a damper on the dollars, at least make kids lose a year of eligibility for each time they transfer. 1 transfer loses a year and second transfer loses 2 years. That would stop he crazy bidding wars. (I cannot believe that the NCAA is unable to police this in a meaningful way.
At least Trump got the ball rolling and is making it known that this system is unacceptable.

lookleftgoright said:

Even if they do not put a damper on the dollars, at least make kids lose a year of eligibility for each time they transfer. 1 transfer loses a year and second transfer loses 2 years. That would stop he crazy bidding wars. (I cannot believe that the NCAA is unable to police this in a meaningful way.
At least Trump got the ball rolling and is making it known that this system is unacceptable.

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Yep, the problem is young adults having control of what they do. I have never understood the rationale that is necessary to justify someone's belief that they should have a say in someone else's income choices.

Instead of looking for someone to make up a law that removes choices from young people, maybe some of the adults making a ton of money off the efforts and commitments of those younger adults could put forth their own efforts to find a solution that works for everybody.

Nitlion1986 said:

Yep, the problem is young adults having control of what they do. I have never understood the rationale that is necessary to justify someone's belief that they should have a say in someone else's income choices.

Instead of looking for someone to make up a law that removes choices from young people, maybe some of the adults making a ton of money off the efforts and commitments of those younger adults could put forth their own efforts to find a solution that works for everybody.

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Great idea. Students are not employees so you cannot put earning limits on them. But coaches are. So why not place limits on football coach salaries?

There are at least three of them making over $13 million per year. While it may be tough to live on just $5 million or so, I am sure they would be happy to make that sacrifice to help pay for the other programs.

And then there are basketball coaches. They might have to have some hard conversations with their wives, but maybe they could find a way to get by on $3 million per year?

The same for assistant coaches, athletic directors, SID's, etc. Everyone BUT the athletes are paid too much, so if we are looking for economies let's start with everyone BUT the athletes. After all, we are always reminded by them how they always put the athletes first.

lookleftgoright said:

Even if they do not put a damper on the dollars, at least make kids lose a year of eligibility for each time they transfer. 1 transfer loses a year and second transfer loses 2 years. That would stop he crazy bidding wars. (I cannot believe that the NCAA is unable to police this in a meaningful way.
At least Trump got the ball rolling and is making it known that this system is unacceptable.

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They need to bring back the academic side to it. Colleges should make you attend at least 2 years for any credits to transfer. Take the sports out of it they are in fact academic institutions. I know sports are important but if we get back to the school part of it can it be challenged legally? Schools have all kinds of requirements for attendance and grades

District 4 said:

They need to bring back the academic side to it. Colleges should make you attend at least 2 years for any credits to transfer. Take the sports out of it they are in fact academic institutions. I know sports are important but if we get back to the school part of it can it be challenged legally? Schools have all kinds of requirements for attendance and grades

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So a non-athlete student who wants to study mechanical engineering starts at Penn State and has a 4.0 with 57 credits after 3 semesters, but decides to transfer to Rutgers and study ceramic engineering. He/she would need to start over, or finish the 4th semester so he/she can take his/her credits with him/her?

Nitlion1986 said:

So a non-athlete student who wants to study mechanical engineering starts at Penn State and has a 4.0 with 57 credits after 3 semesters, but decides to transfer to Rutgers and study ceramic engineering. He/she would need to start over, or finish the 4th semester so he/she can take his/her credits with him/her?

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The number of people that would affect adversely is minimal compared to the way the system is being gamed now. If we were to make a law so no one was adversely affected, we would really have a mess.

Nitlion1986 said:

So a non-athlete student who wants to study mechanical engineering starts at Penn State and has a 4.0 with 57 credits after 3 semesters, but decides to transfer to Rutgers and study ceramic engineering. He/she would need to start over, or finish the 4th semester so he/she can take his/her credits with him/her?

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Well they can tweak it. I was putting my point in the context of a student athlete and there could be mitigating circumstances such as issues at home so student needs to move back etc. Im just spitballing here. I think making policies regarding academics puts pressure on those trying to use college for sports. And just a question who has 57 credits after 3 semesters some genius lol and what student would transfer to Rutgers from penn state a non-genius lol

lookleftgoright said:

The number of people that would affect adversely is minimal compared to the way the system is being gamed now. If we were to make a law so no one was adversely affected, we would really have a mess.

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If we make a decision that negatively impacts the college student body to gain an "upper hand" on these "out of control" athletes we have really lost our collective minds.

District 4 said:

Well they can tweak it. I was putting my point in the context of a student athlete and there could be mitigating circumstances such as issues at home so student needs to move back etc. Im just spitballing here. I think making policies regarding academics puts pressure on those trying to use college for sports. And just a question who has 57 credits after 3 semesters some genius lol and what student would transfer to Rutgers from penn state a non-genius lol

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Simply put some sort of real life progressing towards a degree stipulation on it. If a kid can transfer every year and still be on target to graduate at the end of the 5th year, so be it.

why does this guy think he can get in every corner of peoples lives he should be worrying about other things!

District 4 said:

They need to bring back the academic side to it. Colleges should make you attend at least 2 years for any credits to transfer. Take the sports out of it they are in fact academic institutions. I know sports are important but if we get back to the school part of it can it be challenged legally? Schools have all kinds of requirements for attendance and grades

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At this point, I actually think it may be best to disassociate from the academic side completely. At least in football and basketball, these athletes have nothing in common with the general student body; they're professional athletes with a tenuous connection to an academic institution. I'm also of the (unpopular) belief that not everybody belongs in (and will benefit from) higher education, and that describes no population better than revenue sport athletes. Let them be professional athletes and let the universities that have profited off them for decades (while straying completely away from their intended purpose) figure out the financial and legal mess that ensues. If they want to pursue a degree, they have the same opportunity as everybody else - well, more because they won't really have to worry about paying for it.

Of course there's a zillion unintended consequences I am not even considering and that's almost certainly a terrible idea. I'm just bitter as I represented a major university on the football field for 4yrs and all I got was a degree, and as a fan, I no longer feel any connection to these young men who are literally in the shoes that I was a quarter century ago.

Wrestleknownothing said:

Great idea. Students are not employees so you cannot put earning limits on them. But coaches are. So why not place limits on football coach salaries?

There are at least three of them making over $13 million per year. While it may be tough to live on just $5 million or so, I am sure they would be happy to make that sacrifice to help pay for the other programs.

And then there are basketball coaches. They might have to have some hard conversations with their wives, but maybe they could find a way to get by on $3 million per year?

The same for assistant coaches, athletic directors, SID's, etc. Everyone BUT the athletes are paid too much, so if we are looking for economies let's start with everyone BUT the athletes. After all, we are always reminded by them how they always put the athletes first.

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students are not employee's but athletes may be. They are getting paid and there is a lot of $ in what they doing. The secondary sports is what I worry about.