Portal Rankings JL#31, JJ#266 and BG#269

jmw23712

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Doesn’t shock me. JJ was the only one of those players I was excited about when we got them. Lowe felt like the guy you get when you miss on all the ones you wanted. Garrison felt like a depth piece with potential upside. I was hoping JJ was the next Dilly. I was wrong.
 

UKCowboys

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Ha, looking at that might lead you to believe Pope was a pretty good in game coach. Lowe was hurt and JJ and BG are ranked like they should play for Morehead State
 

TellurideCat

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Doesn’t seem like they’ve actually given a star ranking yet (both zeroes). Tend to believe they won’t be THAT low. Since they entered later on a Friday of a holiday weekend, seems someone dropped them in the database and whomever assigns the evaluation hasn't gotten to it yet? I mean both were largely disappointing but neither are zero star transfer prospects
 

Johnnie Africa

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Ha, looking at that might lead you to believe Pope was a pretty good in game coach. Lowe was hurt and JJ and BG are ranked like they should play for Morehead State

Hard to tell. We were blow out multiple times and quit on more than one occasion. Even if outmatched there was nothing stopping us from playing hard which is my main gripe with last year.
 

JwUKFan11

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Ha, looking at that might lead you to believe Pope was a pretty good in game coach. Lowe was hurt and JJ and BG are ranked like they should play for Morehead State
Only an idiot would try and make this a positive about Pope. Oweh and Denzel carried the team the entire year while the rest of the team collected their millions and were terrible, they can thank Pope for allowing them to retire a little earlier.
 

philstat

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Only an idiot would try and make this a positive about Pope. Oweh and Denzel carried the team the entire year while the rest of the team collected their millions and were terrible, they can thank Pope for allowing them to retire a little earlier.
I agree, this team was in a complete disarray all season long, next to no synergy and it was visibly noticeable that several players would quit playing in games, BG and JJ are two that immediatley come to mind, BG was just flipping outright lazy and JJ was gonna get his no matter what, some say he's putting up shots right as I'm typing this, dude's nickname should be AK-47, because soon as his *** comes off the bench, he's firing away!
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Jun 10, 2009
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Just shows what a **** sandwich we were dealing with and many top players haven’t put their name in the portal so the latter two will probably drop to the 350-400 range.

Exactly, when I read that BG would be “coveted” I was like wtf are they smoking. This isn’t even close to everyone who will enter either.
 

UKCowboys

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Only an idiot would try and make this a positive about Pope. Oweh and Denzel carried the team the entire year while the rest of the team collected their millions and were terrible, they can thank Pope for allowing them to retire a little earlier.
****you fella. Calling someone an idiot for not piling on the lame duck coach is the definition of being an idiot, idiot
 

*Fox2Monk*

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I agree, this team was in a complete disarray all season long, next to no synergy and it was visibly noticeable that several players would quit playing in games, BG and JJ are two that immediatley come to mind, BG was just flipping outright lazy and JJ was gonna get his no matter what, some say he's putting up shots right as I'm typing this, dude's nickname should be AK-47, because soon as his *** comes off the bench, he's firing away!
He’s never seen a shot he didn’t like, a pass that he didn’t wanna make. He also will get the ball taken away like he was a little brother playing in the driveway.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Only an idiot would try and make this a positive about Pope. Oweh and Denzel carried the team the entire year while the rest of the team collected their millions and were terrible, they can thank Pope for allowing them to retire a little earlier.
I wouldn’t say idiot, I’d say blue tinted glasses. Pope has more than proven he’s an average in game coach at best. His substitution, game prep, ability to motivate, and defensive philosophy are way below average.
 

Smeegs

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Doesn’t seem like they’ve actually given a star ranking yet (both zeroes). Tend to believe they won’t be THAT low. Since they entered later on a Friday of a holiday weekend, seems someone dropped them in the database and whomever assigns the evaluation hasn't gotten to it yet? I mean both were largely disappointing but neither are zero star transfer prospects
This. I really doubt any serious thought has been given to those rankings yet, especially with so many names being tossed in just the last couple days or so.

There are some with real name recognition (like Bidunga) that everyone knows belong near the top. But after a certain point I suspect they’re just randomly listing the names that have just been added to their database.
 

Franchise

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Doesn’t seem like they’ve actually given a star ranking yet (both zeroes). Tend to believe they won’t be THAT low. Since they entered later on a Friday of a holiday weekend, seems someone dropped them in the database and whomever assigns the evaluation hasn't gotten to it yet? I mean both were largely disappointing but neither are zero star transfer prospects

Correct. BG and JJ are not ranked yet. BG will be fairly high because of the lack of good centers out there.
 
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Old Blue Fart

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As adult men, well, most of us anyway, show some restraint and try not to public trash someone else.
Even when things go wrong like they did this past year at UK, you try and be respectful. But after reading where these players are ranked, it shows the level of accountability on the coaching staff that is missing.

These players like JJ have been told for ever how good they are but in reality, they are good but not good enough.

If anyone on here has ever coached at a high level high school ball or travel ball, you know. You have encounter that player who thinks their s**t does not stink. This is not the players fault but those around them who failed them.
So his uncle needs this reality check.

JJ is good but not 5 star good. Great players play out of position all the time to help their team. Ever hear of Pete Rose? Bad faults and all, he played where his team needed him.

Lowe...not sure anyone can tell what he is since he did not play all year. He was hurt at UK, so I give him a pass but he did come out not long ago and posted something to the effect about being back at UK. If that was truly him, then what changed?
Lowe is not worth no $1 million, that is for sure.

Garrison is why Forest Gump said life is like a box of chocolates. We never knew what we were going to get from game to game.

Best damn parenting job I have seen in many years was from Reed Shepards parents.
They knew their kid was good, was not used properly but yet they supported the team and waited until they had their chance (NBA draft) and let their son's ability speak for itself. They did not get on social media and cry like JJ's uncle.

There is no way in hell UK spent 22 million for these players. No way. If they did, then all the coaches need to move to Minnesota where no one cares about wasting money.
 

Cats_2010

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Ha, looking at that might lead you to believe Pope was a pretty good in game coach. Lowe was hurt and JJ and BG are ranked like they should play for Morehead State
JJ didn’t help win a single game this year but contributed mightily in several losses often being in when the other team turned the game around, most recently our last game of the year against Iowa State. Now BG did show up big in at least 2, maybe 3 games this year but when we played 36 games overall im not sure how this is a good thing. Also why he’s ranked where he is but I do think he is a bargain at that ranking as a good coach will either maximize his potential or park his *** at the end of the bench.
 
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Stenchymouse

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****you fella. Calling someone an idiot for not piling on the lame duck coach is the definition of being an idiot, idiot
The name calling on this site is out of control.

We used to have mods wouldn't tolerate that stuff, and now that we don't, that leaves us to fight it out.

I'm on here to hear diverse opinions and get information about recruits and such.

The "you suck, Pope sucks, our players suck" stuff is exhausting, and brings NOTHING positive to anything.
 

SkyPrince

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Portal rankings are a total crapshoot anyway.
It's not like portal entries all go to a combine and compete against each other.
There's also weight given to how much eligibility a player has left thus the higher ranking for Kam than he actually deserved last cycle.
 
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The name calling on this site is out of control.

We used to have mods wouldn't tolerate that stuff, and now that we don't, that leaves us to fight it out.

I'm on here to hear diverse opinions and get information about recruits and such.

The "you suck, Pope sucks, our players suck" stuff is exhausting, and brings NOTHING positive to anything.
Needs to be guardrails so that conversations can be on topic and fair. For example, this thread is called portal rankings for certain players and after about 5 posts into a thread, you can no longer tell what you clicked on. If Rupp Rafters was honest this would be thread list:

Thread 1: Pope sucks

Thread 2: Click here if Pope sucks

Thread 3: Pope inhales

No way to have any conversation of substance unless stuff is controlled. Hell, even my post has nothing to do with the topic. It’s kind of like how every casual NBA fan who doesn’t watch games turns everything into a GOAT conversation. Some of us want to have broader discussions.
 

UKCowboys

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The name calling on this site is out of control.

We used to have mods wouldn't tolerate that stuff, and now that we don't, that leaves us to fight it out.

I'm on here to hear diverse opinions and get information about recruits and such.

The "you suck, Pope sucks, our players suck" stuff is exhausting, and brings NOTHING positive to anything.
At some point...when someone calls you an idiot for posting anything thats not a complete negative about Pope, you're going to respond to it. If there are no mods, there are going to be fights, when its that one sided
 
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Stenchymouse

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Needs to be guardrails so that conversations can be on topic and fair. For example, this thread is called portal rankings for certain players and after about 5 posts into a thread, you can no longer tell what you clicked on. If Rupp Rafters was honest this would be thread list:

Thread 1: Pope sucks

Thread 2: Click here if Pope sucks

Thread 3: Pope inhales

No way to have any conversation of substance unless stuff is controlled. Hell, even my post has nothing to do with the topic. It’s kind of like how every casual NBA fan who doesn’t watch games turns everything into a GOAT conversation. Some of us want to have broader discussions.
I agree.

I had quit paying for HOB because, first off, it's hard to justify paying to read a message board when the football AND basketball teams were just SO subpar and there is no such thing as premium information any longer.

Really, the only reason to go back, which I'm going to do as soon as I finish typing this reply, is to be able to, as you said, stay on topic without childish insults or redundant statements about coaches, players or other posters, sucking or being idiots.

I hope that in the future, some of our passionate fans, who I'm sure are probably awesome people will try to chill out a little bit.
 
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FWIW I think most were upset about lack of development of said players. BG was at Kentucky two seasons and showed 0 signs of improvement.

JJ, our only true 5 ⭐ recruit & 1 of 2 homegrown - again no signs of development over the season. Zero, Zilch & Nada

Who is ultimately responsible for player development amoung most other things Kentucky basketball related?

Would that be Pope?
 
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JwUKFan11

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****you fella. Calling someone an idiot for not piling on the lame duck coach is the definition of being an idiot, idiot
You are having an outburst because the truth is right in front of you but you spent months saying the opposite. It’s ok let it out.
 
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Cats_2010

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FWIW I think most were upset about lack of development of said players. BG was at Kentucky two seasons and showed 0 signs of improvement.

JJ, our only true 5 ⭐ recruit & 1 of 2 homegrown - again no signs of development over the season. Zero, Zilch & Nada

Who is ultimately responsible for player development amoung most other things Kentucky basketball related?

Would that be Pope?
JJ looked better against Purdue in our scrimmage than he did in any other part of the year. You can argue he actually got worse under our coaching staff.
 

BlueBloodKyFan73

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FWIW I think most were upset about lack of development of said players. BG was at Kentucky two seasons and showed 0 signs of improvement.

JJ, our only true 5 ⭐ recruit & 1 of 2 homegrown - again no signs of development over the season. Zero, Zilch & Nada

Who is ultimately responsible for player development amoung most other things Kentucky basketball related?

Would that be Pope?
My question is which coaches were supposed to be developing the players at each position.
 
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philstat

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Terrible job by our staff of evaluating talent...and we spent more than any team for these guys. Unbelievable
Yeah, believe this aspect is where they struggled the most, Pope has an idea what identity his teams should have though they failed to scout the right players and his inability to close out recruitment, killed any and all momentum.
 

sk73

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Just shows what a **** sandwich we were dealing with and many top players haven’t put their name in the portal so the latter two will probably drop to the 350-400 range.

Wanna bet that those numbers will be very different by Monday afternoon. Garrison and JJ will both be much higher. On 247 they have not been included in the portal rankings yet. I am predicting that both will be in the top 50 by Monday. Lowe is ranked 17 at the moment. I expect him to drop after everything is retabulated. A lot of decent players have entered over the last couple of days and 247 hasn't updated yet.
 

philstat

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Wanna bet that those numbers will be very different by Monday afternoon. Garrison and JJ will both be much higher. On 247 they have not been included in the portal rankings yet. I am predicting that both will be in the top 50 by Monday. Lowe is ranked 17 at the moment. I expect him to drop after everything is retabulated. A lot of decent players have entered over the last couple of days and 247 hasn't updated yet.
Very possible, though they were both a couple of shitbags here, so hopefully they prosper elsewhere.