I heard that instead of a supplemental draft, their first team will be made up entirely of Shawn Kemp's kids.
NBA expansion.
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That's my guy. I've never enjoyed watching a player more than Joker. I'm so glad the Nugs won a title, because they're going to waste the rest of his career.
It feels unfortunately like you are right. And has there ever been an all time great less appreciated than him? Tim Duncan, maybe?
I know the tanking is bad for the league, and there are probably some effective methods to curtail it, but I also don't think we'll see anything like this again for quite some time. This draft class is just so loaded.
Lots of things can be true simultaneously about the NBA.
Is it as good as it was during the Jordan era? Not in my opinion. It's become a glorified three point shooting contest with limited defense.
Is it still fun to watch? Absolutely. The skill levels of these guys are off the charts. It's kinda ruined college ball for me because of all the turnovers, missed shots, and lack of execution at the college level. That stuff happens at the pro level too, but not as dramatically.
My biggest complaint about the NBA today (outside of the shot selection and lack of physicality and defense) is the tanking and load management. The NBA has to get a handle on that stuff. Nobody wants to to spend $750 to take a family to an NBA game and watch the stars sitting due to load management.
Is it as good as it was during the Jordan era? Not in my opinion. It's become a glorified three point shooting contest with limited defense.
Is it still fun to watch? Absolutely. The skill levels of these guys are off the charts. It's kinda ruined college ball for me because of all the turnovers, missed shots, and lack of execution at the college level. That stuff happens at the pro level too, but not as dramatically.
My biggest complaint about the NBA today (outside of the shot selection and lack of physicality and defense) is the tanking and load management. The NBA has to get a handle on that stuff. Nobody wants to to spend $750 to take a family to an NBA game and watch the stars sitting due to load management.
The games are getting significantly better as everybody is jockeying for playoff position. And the playoffs are just a different game altogether. I wil argue against the “no defense” thing to a point, but it is admittedly nowhere near as intense as it will be in the playoffs. And everything else you said is spot on.
My ways to fix the NBA:
1. Either move 3-point line back a foot and don't shorten it near the sidelines (yes, this eliminates the shot from the corner, it's just too easy for these players) or eliminate it completely. Alternatively, someone said if they changed the current 2-point shot to 3 points, and the current 3-point shot to 4, it would throw the analytics back to favoring the shots inside the arc. Seems crazy, but I think it would work.
2. Shorten season to about 60 games.
3. Big monetary bonuses for teams making playoffs. Every team not making playoffs has equal chances for the first draft picks.
Unfortunately they will never shorten the season, just like MLB will never shorten their season. Too much lost revenue.
Of course they'll never do any of those things. Might lengthen the 3-point line a little, but probably not a foot or eliminate the shot in the corner.
Shortening the season suuuucks as an option.
Players make more $ than ever and have more access to nutrition, recovery, and training that ever.
They can play- it really is possible.
That is one thing I will say was better decades ago- fewer players seemed to sit out a bunch.
I don't think so. Duncan got plenty of laurels, he just had no personality. Joker has a great personality but doesn't give a damn about being accessible. I love him and his terrifying brothers.
The NBA season is too long; we don't need the season to start as early as it does. Cede that completely to the NFL.
I don't watch NBA until end of February, and really only get locked in on the playoffs. That's the good stuff.
But I will watch Joker on a Tuesday against Sacramento any day.
I don't watch NBA until end of February, and really only get locked in on the playoffs. That's the good stuff.
But I will watch Joker on a Tuesday against Sacramento any day.
For a few years the load management issues went away but now they’re starting to creep back in. It is annoying and I think they are way too precautionary with players now and injuries.
Tanking will always be a thing but like MSF87 said the draft this year is so loaded it’s making these teams want to tank even worse.
Flatten the draft lottery odds even more or just get rid of it.
Tanking will always be a thing but like MSF87 said the draft this year is so loaded it’s making these teams want to tank even worse.
Flatten the draft lottery odds even more or just get rid of it.
It would have to be substantially longer. Theoretically, they could lengthen it enough to change the analytics. But they won't. Maybe 6 inches longer, and as you say that won't change anything (and that is NOT what she said).
Besides 2024 I’d say each class has been really good in the 2020s. I get what you’re saying but every year there’s good players and teams still find ways to tank I just think it’s been magnified this year by people in the media
It's not fun to watch. Simple as that. There's nothing as pretty as a good pull up mid-range jump shot or working the ball inside for a good shot. But now it's just a glorified game of H-O-R-S-E.
Kemp/Schrempf
Barkley/Johnson
Olajuwon/Maxwell
Hardaway/Mullen
Johnson/Mourning
Wilkins/Augmon
If that game and Ahmad Rashad weren't part of your late Gen X early Millennial teen age years then you've definitely got a box in your attic full of Pokemon cards, Pogs, and a dead Tamagotchi.
If you played with Stockton/Malone, congratulations on your January 6th pardon.
Barkley/Johnson
Olajuwon/Maxwell
Hardaway/Mullen
Johnson/Mourning
Wilkins/Augmon
If that game and Ahmad Rashad weren't part of your late Gen X early Millennial teen age years then you've definitely got a box in your attic full of Pokemon cards, Pogs, and a dead Tamagotchi.
If you played with Stockton/Malone, congratulations on your January 6th pardon.
I agree with this sentiment.
The overall skill in the NBA is absolutely amazing. It ruins other basketball competitions because of the overall ability each player has now.
Tanking is diluting the product. It’s got to stop and think that they will make strong moves to curtail it.
Stars not playing when the average family only can come to 1-2 games a year stings a lot. Ja Morant and other players like him not playing leaves a bad taste in people’s mouths. Damages the experience which leads people to other events/sports.
Well I don't think that's as big of an issue on these rim runs as it is on these step back three point shots. Just some egregious traveling going on. James Harden perfected it. I also think the "eurostep" has been given too much liberty. We want offense, but there are rules, too. Fundamentals are fundamental.
The 3pt and 2pt shots need to flip then. Anything INSIDE the arc is worth 3.
Bring back the midrange and post game!
ETA- well shit, that was mentioned later. Gotta read the whole thread! Bad golfer, bad!