Pitino- There are no more Blue Bloods
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The schools with the deepest financial pockets and a great head coach are the new blue bloods. That's what was so frustrating with this years roaster. 22 Million dollars should buy you a contender but the money was horribly mismanaged.
In the article he says.. "There’s no difference between Michigan State, who is a blue blood, to any of the other teams from the conferences, from Mississippi, when they get it going. It’s all going to be the same… There’s no such thing as a blue blood anymore.”
Did he just contradict himself? Why did he add "..Michigan State,who is a blue blood" if there's no such thing as a blue blood anymore?
Did he just contradict himself? Why did he add "..Michigan State,who is a blue blood" if there's no such thing as a blue blood anymore?
Semantics. It just depends on your definition of "blue blood". If you define it as "the top programs of today", there are dozens of them.
If you define it as "had it in the old days" there are just a few. If you define it as "had it back then and still have it", that whittles it down further.
If you define it as "had it in the old days" there are just a few. If you define it as "had it back then and still have it", that whittles it down further.
Since, in a basketball game the first 2 points scored counts the same in the final score as the last 2 points scored, the only real way to determine "blue bloods" is by cumulative titles(in my opinion).
Blue Bloods are teams that have had continued or sustained success for long periods of time in my opinion. UCLA and IU are examples of teams that were but aren't really considered that recently.
Pitino is correct. The ability to legally be able to pay players and the transfer portal has changed the game. Big boosters can now buy whatever the school needs. Think about the roster that schools with wealthy alumni like Vanderbilt could buy if the alumni stepped up. IU Football proved it on the football field and it doesn't look like they are going away as long as Mark Cuban hangs around.
Pitino is correct. The ability to legally be able to pay players and the transfer portal has changed the game. Big boosters can now buy whatever the school needs. Think about the roster that schools with wealthy alumni like Vanderbilt could buy if the alumni stepped up. IU Football proved it on the football field and it doesn't look like they are going away as long as Mark Cuban hangs around.
I think the fact that IU won the title in football proves the point.
Unfortunately, he's right. This is a new era and the college basketball landscape will no longer be dominated by the same handful of programs that have traditionally dominated. That isn't to say that the traditional blue bloods can't have good seasons or win championships. But they aren't going to be in a position to do it year after year.
I am going to argue against you on this one. A one time title might just be a one time title. Maybe IU caught lightning in a bottle? Curious how you might answer that?
Then kiss the sport goodbye. Nobody gives a **** about Iowa, Nebraska, Iowa State, Texas or Purdue basketball.
Blue bloods gotta keep up their programs or they won’t be one no more. Like Indiana. Kentucky with Pope either gonna get back on top or he gotta go
But @RunninRichie reliably told me if you just flash your historic name coaches blindly take the job no questions asked
When I think of blue bloods, I think of dominant teams that kids grow up rooting for and wanting to play for. The name of the school attracted great players.
I think that started changing 15-20 years ago. Players were more attracted to the coach vs the school. Now that has shifted to where they can make the most or be setup for making the most money.
I think that started changing 15-20 years ago. Players were more attracted to the coach vs the school. Now that has shifted to where they can make the most or be setup for making the most money.
If we get rid of Pope and our NEW AD hires a great coach we will be more competitive but that certainly does NOT guarantee a title. Each year with NIL there will be a ton of teams that can beat anyone on any given night. Talent will NEVER be concentrated on a few select team ever again. With NIL you can't keep kids long enough to develop a winning team. Diffent times are here.
Blue bloods will still be the most attractive but the money has to be there. It isn’t rocket science. It’s just like any other job. Great NBA players prefer the Lakers to the Timberwolves, but if the Timberwolves pay more then it becomes an issue. This is how it is in college now. Great coach great brand blue blood status with the money = top recruits. If you can make the same and play for the name that’s where you’re taking your game.
People make too much out of this.
People make too much out of this.
The fact that NIL has leveled the playing field is what I'm referring to.
The insurmountable advantages that programs such as Alabama had are significantly diminished.
He is right. Kids follow the money and not just the attraction of the name of the school anymore.
IU had back to back great seasons and they are recruiting at a very high level with a successful coach. This doesn't look like a lightning in a bottle situation. Mark Cuban is pumping serious cash into the program.
Okay, assuming you are on the money, my next question is: Does this simply make IU a newblood? (I borrowed that term from another thread) If so, does this really open the door to almost anyone or is it just one school with a terrific coach and a big time booster?
I confess that I am still skeptical that Bama, ND, Ohio State, etc will not somehow adapt. So far in college basketball we have not yet seen the rise of another "Indiana" to challenge for the title. While this year's contenders doesn't include UK, UNC, KU or IU, most of the teams have been there before.
I've said many times that we haven't yet seen the full effect of NIL/Transfer Portal so we don't have much data. I appreciate your input in the discussion. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the coming years.
“Blue Blood” status and dynasties are built over years, decades.
Nobody is giving a coach or roster the time in the modern era.
Nobody is giving a coach or roster the time in the modern era.