It may have already been cleared up, but in that shot, Cael is not visible; in other angles, he's in the back row behind Henckel. Here's the video
The don't clog the board with final/stay thoughts from NCAAs, post them here, thread
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It may have already been cleared up, but in that shot, Cael is not visible; in other angles, he's in the back row behind Henckel. Here's the video
Here's a prophetic photo from the 2015 NCAA tournament!
One of two moves that Angelo Ferrari knows. The other is to drop to one knee.
Nothing to do with the actual wrestling, but I loved the white finals singlets in the Sunderland years.
UFF is here to bring you some maths. Do you like maths? UFF likes maths.
I apologize for not getting WrestleSim predictions out before the tournament. I had some important modeling to complete, yes I know, how could it be more important than the NCAA wrestling tournament??? Also, there wasn’t really a need for WrestleSim to estimate the champion. I ran 1000 realizations and PSU was at 100%. Then I ran 10,000 realizations and PSU was at 100%. Then I stopped and drank some beer.
I compared the actual results with the pre-tournament simulations and then calculated the percentile performance of the teams simulated. From high to low the results are shown below.
Stanford >99.9%
OkSt 99.5
Iowa 99.1
Nebraska 92.7
PSU 90.1
NCST 44.6
OhSt 24.5 (B10COY!)
ISU 10.3
Lehigh 6.8
VT 6.4 (Up and coming!)
Cornell <0.1 (Better call legal, FAST!)
Stanford had an incredible tournament mathematically and otherwise. Oklahoma State, Iowa, Nebraska, and PSU all had great tournaments. Numbers can sometimes fib a little bit, or at least it is important to understand context. For example, because Iowa’s projected total was fairly meager at 59.24, a couple of points can make a big difference. Being on the receiving end of 2 points for a medical forfeit boosted them from 91.8 to 99.1 percentile. On the other hand, they lost some points (most likely) from the medical forfeit of Ferrari. Call that a wash.
IT IS MUCH HARDER TO EXCEED YOUR POINT TOTAL SIGNIFICANTLY WHEN YOU ARE AT THE TOP.
Before you go anointing David Taylor (who I like) as the new Dahli Lama (Gunga Ga Lunga), some context is in order. Oklahoma State had a great tournament - UFF was impressed by Vega and Robideau. I had seen Jax destroy some good people so I wasn’t surprised by his result. Oklahoma State had some VERY good fortune that usually doesn’t all happen to one team.
Penn State bonus points finished 12th in the team race. Penn State’s performance is equivalent to having 12-13 wrestlers. The talk of Oklahoma State surpassing PSU is crazy!!! It isn’t like there are unlimited points. Your point gains must come from someone else’s losses. UFF’s expectation is the gap will once again be 50 points when the dust settles in 2027.
UFF
PS The Ferrari's accounted for 33% of all medical forfeits.
I apologize for not getting WrestleSim predictions out before the tournament. I had some important modeling to complete, yes I know, how could it be more important than the NCAA wrestling tournament??? Also, there wasn’t really a need for WrestleSim to estimate the champion. I ran 1000 realizations and PSU was at 100%. Then I ran 10,000 realizations and PSU was at 100%. Then I stopped and drank some beer.
I compared the actual results with the pre-tournament simulations and then calculated the percentile performance of the teams simulated. From high to low the results are shown below.
Stanford >99.9%
OkSt 99.5
Iowa 99.1
Nebraska 92.7
PSU 90.1
NCST 44.6
OhSt 24.5 (B10COY!)
ISU 10.3
Lehigh 6.8
VT 6.4 (Up and coming!)
Cornell <0.1 (Better call legal, FAST!)
Stanford had an incredible tournament mathematically and otherwise. Oklahoma State, Iowa, Nebraska, and PSU all had great tournaments. Numbers can sometimes fib a little bit, or at least it is important to understand context. For example, because Iowa’s projected total was fairly meager at 59.24, a couple of points can make a big difference. Being on the receiving end of 2 points for a medical forfeit boosted them from 91.8 to 99.1 percentile. On the other hand, they lost some points (most likely) from the medical forfeit of Ferrari. Call that a wash.
IT IS MUCH HARDER TO EXCEED YOUR POINT TOTAL SIGNIFICANTLY WHEN YOU ARE AT THE TOP.
Before you go anointing David Taylor (who I like) as the new Dahli Lama (Gunga Ga Lunga), some context is in order. Oklahoma State had a great tournament - UFF was impressed by Vega and Robideau. I had seen Jax destroy some good people so I wasn’t surprised by his result. Oklahoma State had some VERY good fortune that usually doesn’t all happen to one team.
- Doucet (#7) gained about +7 points over expectations because of injuries and the way his bracket worked out. He beat 26, 10, 20, 18, and 4 (FFT) while losing to 2 and 3.
- Merrill (#7) benefitted from the Elam injury and a likely 7th place finish to gain +12 points over expectation.
- Ryder (#22) benefitted from a MFF in the blood round to gain +6.5 points over expectation.
Penn State bonus points finished 12th in the team race. Penn State’s performance is equivalent to having 12-13 wrestlers. The talk of Oklahoma State surpassing PSU is crazy!!! It isn’t like there are unlimited points. Your point gains must come from someone else’s losses. UFF’s expectation is the gap will once again be 50 points when the dust settles in 2027.
UFF
PS The Ferrari's accounted for 33% of all medical forfeits.
Curious what % of all drops to one knee that the Ferrari's accounted for.
Joe used to say that the best way to stop football concussions would be to remove helmets.
Likewise, someone once told me that the beat way to reduce speeding, DUIs, and car wrecks would be to add a spike in the steering wheel.
OKST also gained 8 team points on a garbage OT no takedown call.
So that's actually +33.5 pts above what they normally might have earned.
I was thinking the same thing. You have to give Caliendo credit for trying a risky technique in the finals. Most guys wouldn’t have the guts to do that.
Just say no to criteria, I rather have them thumb wrestle. As for ot stand them up until it's over.
"Risky technique"? I thought that was spelled "illegal chokehold", no?
He also out scored him in their match, but whatever.
Iowa State. There are some family issues that made anywhere but OkSt the leader.
Kind of late to mention this now, but Comcast Xfinity recently added the complete ESPN family of channels, including ESPN+ streaming service, at no additional charge on top of my cable bill. Not sure if anyone has Xfinity and wants to check it out.
Appreciate you thinking of me . Hey I have my own thread now #winnerswin
Robideau’s matches vs PJ then “Trelly” were like night and day. He wrestled by the new book vs PJ (steal it in SV) and aggressively from the get-go vs Antrel because he saw that worked for PJ in the B1Gs. Ok St plan for Robideau at NCAAs was executed perfectly.
Thank you so much for the heads up!
I noticed we had ESPN2 and ESPNU available again, so I was able to see all the sessions… but didn’t realize I could have had a V8 with the individual mat choices!
I went to Xfinity app, asked the chat bot how to access it, got a box to tap to get (a separate) Xfinity Stream app from App Store…perused it to see all the other live sports available at the moment… I hope to be good to go next year, and anything else that may be available on it!
WHAT HAPPENED TO RUTGERS? Is this a Misprint? Has to be 
NCAA Division I National Wrestling Championships team scores
1. Penn State 181.5, 2. Oklahoma State 131, 3. Nebraska 100.5, 4. Iowa 92.5, 5. Ohio State 84.5, 6. Stanford 67.5, 7. Michigan 55, 8. Iowa State 52, 9. Minnesota 48.5, 10. NC State 44.5, 11. Virginia Tech 41.5, 12. Wyoming 38, 13. Arizona State 36.5, 14. Missouri 34, 15. Illinois, 28, 17. Columbia 25, 18. Cornell 21.5, 19. Penn 21, 20. Princeton 20, 21. Indiana 19.5, 22. Little Rock 17.5, 23. American, West Virginia 17, 25. Air Force 16I can see Cael in the back. I am not seeing Van Ness. Is Rocco in there? Davis and Blaze do not look happy at all.
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174 opens up nicely for Levi's replacement and 285 opens up nicely for Cole,
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Looks like the state of Pennsylvania topped the number of AA's again this season:
I updated the top NCAA tourney scoring wrestlers in the pinned stat thread. Levi and Mendez made the list. Van Ness and Psycho can make the list next season.
I saw a graphic yesterday that showed California with 9AA. Pennsylvania and Ohio 8 each. ?????
I don't think his list is by hs of origin... it's by the location of the University. PA hs products accounted for way more than 8 of the 80 AA spots.
There was a dude sitting outside the arena, decked in tOSU gear, smoking a doobie after's Friday night's round, yelling about Ped State. I told him to F off. Wasn't quick enough to come back with Jim Jordan, Leslie Wexner or Dr. Richard Strauss.
