OK. Golden is off the list.
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In the days of NIL what the difference in schools besides money? They have had more success last few years than us. This whole “We are
Kentucky that’s why” is dead. Now it’s touch money.
Yes he has had a chance and embarrassed the school many times. Hell even Iowa said they knew they’d quit.
Yes you could be right. But could you imagine the type of team he might have if he had 22m to work with? That would be a reason it could be a great marriage.
That isn’t close to the same thing. Ollie had no other success. Ollie didn’t take a program in the bottom half of the modern SEC, double his wins in year 2, win a title in year 3, and bring a 1 seed back out the next season. Ollie was given a good program, a basketball program, and went 20-15 the year after his average season luck run. Golden didn’t have a luck run, he was steady and built fast and continued to have good teams. None of these comparison make any sense.
anything can happen but a lot of this stuff is not good context. Ollie just hit the luck button from crazy town. Golden actually did well building and sustaining. Anything can happen in these tournaments, but he’s winning titles he’s winning the SEC he’s one of the best talent evaluators in the game. You know why he didn’t get to the final four this year? Because he didn’t have the money available to keep Aberdeen which is what they were missing. He doesn’t have the funds at Florida lol. He’s not at a great basketball institution. And he’s still doing this.
Golden isn’t going anywhere. I don’t know what that looks like, but if you look at his record in context you will not come away thinking he’s not any good. If he stays at Florida I hope he’s not but it’s not going to happen. And he and Ollie are nowhere near similar. It’s not even in the same ballpark. It’s okay to be objective and put the bias to the side. Maybe he goes 2nd round 3 more years and then wins another I don’t know. But we don’t want Golden in this conference.
These statements are just unbelievable. Have you not read what has been shown? No they wouldn’t have been fired if their situation was here. No. And the coaches people keep bringing up make no sense in comparison. Pope has a LONG COACHING RECORD this is not his first rodeo. He’s running this program, a blue blood with more resources than anyone, like a damn joke. He’s no good pay attention look at recruiting look at his history look how awful his teams play.
Mark did not just start. He’s been a coach a long time. And his record is awful.
You guys are going to look so bad when the reality hits this season and your confirmation bias runs out and the gaslit fog thins out. This is easy to see that Mark cannot win at Kentucky. It’s the easiest thing I’ve ever seen in Kentucky basketball. To not see it is not just weird it’s….i don’t know.
Do you few who keep doing this follow anything going on? His history, recruiting etc? Or do you just pretend Mark is 33 and just began coaching?
Let's see, bad play by UK players is Pope's fault, bad play by UF players is players fault. Got it.
He needed to be humbled.
Its funny tho, none if you would've wanted him prior to florida hiring him. What was his tournament record?
Its funny tho, none if you would've wanted him prior to florida hiring him. What was his tournament record?
See, no matter who the coach is, soon as he looses a game a bunch of you will be wanting to fire him.That is all.
I’d love to know the secret to that. How does a coach or mentor create the context in which he can shred a dude without breaking him or damaging the relationship?
https://t.co/FmaO43S2N5" / XWhy not ask for Red Auerbach, the chance of Red being our next coach has about the same odds as Bruce Pearl coming to Lexington. Bruce seems tired and has more money than he can spend. I don't think he would take any college coaching job for any amount of money. I actually don't think Bruce would be a fit for us because he would NEVER recruit or coach against his son.
saw yesterday that Golden was odds on favorite to replace Hubert Davis. I think its unlikely due to buyout and other considerations (specifically that UNC doesn't like to hire asshats)
but another name on that list of potential candidates really bothers me.
Brad Stevens.
If UK could have had Brad Stevens, then I have a new level of dislike for Barnhart.
but another name on that list of potential candidates really bothers me.
Brad Stevens.
If UK could have had Brad Stevens, then I have a new level of dislike for Barnhart.
Brad Stevens is never coming back to college. I don’t know why he keeps showing up on lists. Wishful thinking??
Seth Greenberg was brutal in his critique of that play. He even talked about players in gradeschool being taught to stay between the ball and the basket. I was cracking up!
I just saw an article in which Golden says that the plan was to foul and not allow an open shot to tie the game or beat them. Can you imagine if any UK coach tried that strategy here in a 2 point game??
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This reminded me of a post game interview with Pitino(Ejiofor standing next to him) as he talks to the reporter. Rick says something like “if you don’t want to be coached hard, I’m probably not the coach for you.” Then he turned to Ejiofor and said, “I hardly ever have to yell at this guy but when I do it’s intentional so the other guys can see how he takes it and he takes it really well”.
Check out this video, "rick pitino on being hard on zuby ejiofor"
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I thought that as well, but the betting site actually has him as the third most likely candidate. I guess at this point its all conjecture anyways
I don't think it's some terrible loss. It's certainly an upset. And Golden outside of that 1 magical run, hasn't had that much tournament success.
BUT
They just had another GREAT regular season. They were a 1 seed again. They were considered a top 4 team going into the tournament.
For all of the "This is Kentucky, we need to be going to Final 4's and winning championships," I can understand people get upset in the tournament. It happen. It happened to Coach K. It's happened to Bill Self. It's happened to Tom Izzo. I'd have to loo, but I'm guessing Roy Willilams suffered an upset or 2 in his day.
The problem with Cal wasn't just "Well we lost in March." We never had a GREAT regular season anymore. And he would always justify it away with "March." But then we didn't do anything in "March" either.
If all you ever get out of Golden is a great regular season and he ALWAYS fails in the tournament, then maybe there's reason to not want him on the coaching end. But as of now, as a coach, I'd take him.
Now if someone wants to say they don't want him because he's a bad human, a pervert, and a stalker--I'm certainly open to those arguments.
BUT
They just had another GREAT regular season. They were a 1 seed again. They were considered a top 4 team going into the tournament.
For all of the "This is Kentucky, we need to be going to Final 4's and winning championships," I can understand people get upset in the tournament. It happen. It happened to Coach K. It's happened to Bill Self. It's happened to Tom Izzo. I'd have to loo, but I'm guessing Roy Willilams suffered an upset or 2 in his day.
The problem with Cal wasn't just "Well we lost in March." We never had a GREAT regular season anymore. And he would always justify it away with "March." But then we didn't do anything in "March" either.
If all you ever get out of Golden is a great regular season and he ALWAYS fails in the tournament, then maybe there's reason to not want him on the coaching end. But as of now, as a coach, I'd take him.
Now if someone wants to say they don't want him because he's a bad human, a pervert, and a stalker--I'm certainly open to those arguments.
I guess we can't say much because our fans went through it too.
But thinking Brad Stevens is going to leave the Boston Celtics to come coach college is delusional.
He should never coach here.
He’s extremely confrontational, disrespectful to fellow coaches, and appears to have some serious anger issues.
He reminds me of a monster drink chugging, elitist douche bag who would drop anything in a girls drink to take advantage of her. He’s probably in the Epstein files and likely has a very dark past.
Can he win? Yes.
My daughter goes to UK though with another daughter likely on the way in a couple years, so I want that dude nowhere near Lexington.
He’s a creep.
He’s extremely confrontational, disrespectful to fellow coaches, and appears to have some serious anger issues.
He reminds me of a monster drink chugging, elitist douche bag who would drop anything in a girls drink to take advantage of her. He’s probably in the Epstein files and likely has a very dark past.
Can he win? Yes.
My daughter goes to UK though with another daughter likely on the way in a couple years, so I want that dude nowhere near Lexington.
He’s a creep.
In his 3 years at San Fran and his 4 years at Florida, Golden has 1 NC and 1 tournament win before or after last year. Personally, I hope he does get hired by either UNC or KU but not UK.
Golden actually coaches. He noticed a shortcoming of his team being 3 point shooting. They were 29% in the non conference and finished conference closer to 40% by working extra in practice and getting better shots. I don’t know of one thing UK improved with all year.