Some fantastic coaching in the league.
Sweet 16!!! We overcame Horse Sh*t officiating, 8 Missed FTs & 17 missed Threes
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As with many other things, the majority is often wrong, damn, horribly wrong.
But look who we played in those last 10 games, and look how we played. Florida started the year 5-4, but look who they played. It goes way beyond the numbers.We were 3-7 heading into the NCAA Tournament.
I still can't believe what just happened.
Excellent point. Alvaro doesn't get that shot unless Coop gives Stirtz that perfect pass on the run, and Stirtz makes the perfect pass to the corner. And just because he was open, doesn't mean the shot is automatic. Alvaro played a great game, and he showed tremendous confidence and poise in draining that game winner. Wow!
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Look at the High Point roster. Hell, look at Siena. Iowa just beat #1 Florida, the defending national champions, with a bunch of kids from NE Missouri-Drake-Robert Morrris. NIL is overrated. (And don't forget what Indiana football did, led by a coach and a bunch of players from James Madison.)
Banks played his backside off, as he always does. I love that kid, and I hope he is back next year. Almost always matched up with bigger guys, Banks just gets it done. He's the epitome of what Ben wants in a young man, flaws and all. Love watching him and his teammates play with such passion and energy and confidence and intelligence. They may be a bunch of misfit toys to the outsiders, but their terrific Hawkeyes to us.
Didn't realize having a 9 beat a 1 was so rare!
That's how Tavion plays. It doesn't matter. He just gets after it. I really, really hope he gets another year.
Nice of the mockers and nonbelievers to admit they were wrong for a change and honestly appraise the game and give Iowa the credit they so richly deserve. I guess miracles can happen, on and off the court.
If the officials had gotten in there right away and pulled the players apart, like they are supposed to do, none of it would have happened. It was a bullshitt job by some of the worst officials Iowa's had all year. I was just waiting for them to call a foul on Iowa on Florida's last possession. That it didn't happen may be the biggest miracle of the game.
You nailed that observation, just like Koch did. What a helluva shot, especially with the game on the line. That was just as important as Alvaro's, because without it, Iowa loses. Wow.
Tom McCarthy is excellent, and that radio call was brilliant.
I hope Alvaro's Mom is staying for the remainder of the tournament. He has been playing great with her in the stands!
You should take the blindfold off next time. Florida's bigs pretty much did whatever they wanted, bumping and shoving Iowa all over the floor with NO calls. Blatant bullshitt. Iowa takes it to the hoop, two or three guys collapse on the shooter, no call. Same thing at the other end, whistle almost every damn time. But many people can only see what they wanna see, and that's one helluva problem.
I thought the officiating was ok. Going to be bad calls both ways and often “letting the physical team get away with stuff” happens.
complaining about it in football and basketball every single game gets old.
There is no national conspiracy and if there was some broke official or ncaa employee would have spilled the beans long ago.
complaining about it in football and basketball every single game gets old.
There is no national conspiracy and if there was some broke official or ncaa employee would have spilled the beans long ago.
Most of the heat was deserved, and I imagine Alvaro would agree. He's been SO inconsistent. But when he's on, like he was last night, he's a huge difference-maker, as in Sweet Sixteen, baby!
It was Dolphin. You expected more? Listen to the Westwood Radio call someone posted in this thread. That's what a professional announcer sounds like. Fantastic call.
Iowa plays #1 seed Florida, defending national champions, in front of a Florida home crowd in Tampa, Stirtz has a bad game, Banks--who earlier in the season made 30 straight FTs--misses five, the refs get Florida back in the game at the FT line while Iowa's bigs are in foul trouble, and Iowa just wins anyway. I mean what can you say? Impose your will. Just win. That's what Ben's teams do. Now the world is finding out how that works.
There's shoving and then there's blatant unsportsmanlike shoving.
In the postgame presser Lee thought Haugh was open for the dunk, but obviously wasn't. Said in hindsight he should have put up a floater.
Gotta give credit to senior Brendan Hausen for being a great teammate all season. He's had few opporunities, and even those haven't gone well, but he's always invested on the bench, and you can see the honest emotion in this picture. Not many guys would hang in there the way he has.
When players are in the open court and being blocked and held like it's a football game, there is NO excuse for not making those calls. That's not basketball in any form. It's plain bullshitt. Sure, some calls are close and could go either way, but that's not what we're talking about. Make all the excuses you want, but committing assault on the basketball court is unacceptable, and Florida got away with it all night long. Meanwhile, Cam and others are called for brushing someone. Sure, that's great officiating.As a coach, and as someone who has taken the tests and has officiated at the high school level once upon a time (and by no means does this make me an expert), I'm a little bit more judgemental of officiating, but I also try to view things with perspective. I try to understand what the officials were seeing and what their thought process was in various situations and calls.
I felt that this crew certainly missed some calls (as we all know), and came dangerously close to interjecting themselves a bit too much towards the end of the game...........but I did not think it was overall poorly officiated. It was a physical game from both sides, and Iowa earned a lot of the fouls they got called for, as did Florida.
I'd say that we were very fortunate things went our way with Folgeiras' "phantom punch", and I agree with the ruling in the moment. Roles reversed, our fanbase would absolutely be furious that we'd get a double tech out of that, but the point was on the excessive force by Condon that started it. It served as a fair warning to both players.
Yes, there were other missed calls later on like Jirak getting shoulder checked to the floor and Condon stiff-arming Koch, but those kind of heat-of-the-moment plays happen 20 times a game and go uncalled, and it doesn't necessarily mean the game itself is being poorly officiated.
At the very least, on the situations where they messed up, they went back and got the calls right, albeit mostly thanks to the teams having to challenge calls, but that's what they're there for.
That does speak to a broader discussion about the protocol for these challenges and why a team could potentially be punished for not having challenges to argue a missed call, clock or shot situation, even if they were successful on all their challenges, but again that's for another discussion.
I tend not to overreact as much about whether or not a game in its entirety was poorly officiated because the vast majority of the time, most fans don't even understand what they're arguing about to begin with and all fanbases assume that the refs are "out to get our boys (or girls)"
P.S. of course in the case of the women's game, you can actually make more of an argument for bad officiating across the board from game to game. The problem is it's not going to improve all that much anytime soon, so we need to kind of accept it's just unfortunately a part of the game teams have to play through. Doesn't make it right, and doesn't mean the NCAA should stop trying to elevate the level of officiating in the women's game, but for now.......we just have to deal with it.
With all that said, I won't feel like this was a game where we "overcame the officials" and I certainly wouldn't have made it a top 10 reason for why we lost if it had come to that. Our FT shooting was not exactly up to standard (and we got to the FT line plenty) and our 3 pt shooting in stretches and by certain key players was abysmal.
And of course, watch, I'll technically defend the refs in this game, and we'll get a horsesh** clown show on Thursday against Nebraska because we're only allowed nice things for so long..................
agreed. can you imagine Florida at the FT line with less than a second left, down 1? would be "the Iowa way" to lose a game
You watched a different game than I did. And you clearly have a different dictionary than I do.
they filed the paperwork; now just waiting on the NCAA's verdict.
Aside from everything else that has been said, one of my stupid, silly goals for the tournament — this year and every year — is to be a part of the “One Shining Moment” montage that CBS always airs after the final game. If nothing else, having a part in that montage is a signal the your program is relevant, that you are in the game.
Regardless of whatever happens for the rest of the tourney, I have to think Iowa has a pretty good chance to get a few nice shots in the montage this year — knocking out a #1 seed, particularly in dramatic fashion, is surely worth a few clips.
I’m thinking Al’s winning shot, or perhaps the shot of him pointing to the sky is a good candidate for inclusion. Or maybe Ben hyping up the crowd after the game. Any others?
Here’s to having a few more clips worthy of inclusion before the tournament is over.
Regardless of whatever happens for the rest of the tourney, I have to think Iowa has a pretty good chance to get a few nice shots in the montage this year — knocking out a #1 seed, particularly in dramatic fashion, is surely worth a few clips.
I’m thinking Al’s winning shot, or perhaps the shot of him pointing to the sky is a good candidate for inclusion. Or maybe Ben hyping up the crowd after the game. Any others?
Here’s to having a few more clips worthy of inclusion before the tournament is over.
Actually, people can say no to a massive check. As former MLB star Mark McGuire said after turning down larger offers to re-sign with the Cardinals, "How much money does anybody need?"
Ben has his dream job. He ain't goin' anywhere. Kentucky is home watching the tournment. Iowa's in the Sweet Sixteen. Why take a step down?
Refs did a great job yesterday. Possibly the best game of the tournament ( maybe Nebraska-Vandy) and allowed both teams to bang with just the right amount of physicality. You complain about the physicality of games all the time. This is not 1969. Look at the size and strength of both teams. Iowa is not some wallflower out there just waiting for the bully to come push them around. Cam, Banks and even Koch yesterday played very very physical and not only held their own we actually out rebounded the much bigger team. And having Alvaro out in space where Chimylou couldn't stay with him really helped us. Ben is not going to use officiating as an excuse for us losing a game and the fans shouldn't either.
If they don't, that's coaching malfeasance of the highest order. I think they do practice it, but just because you practice it doesn't mean you can execute it against a team like Iowa.
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If it happened after time expired, it should have been a flagrant 2, and the player should have been ejected. If that happened on the sidewalk outside the arena, the Florida player would be charged with assault. Go ahead, look up the definition of criminal assault. Florida committed it at least three times during yesterday's game, and NOT ONE was called a foul.
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great point in a nail biting, one point win.
When it comes to Kansas & Kentucky and Ben thinking about both jobs:
* Massive salary
* Massive NIL resources
* Massive fan base
Imagine what Ben would do with the $22M NIL budget that Kentucky had.
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Stirtz didn't have a great game for sure, but it looked like Florida game planned to shut him down, which they were largely successful at doing. They just didn't count on the rest of the team being able to pick him up. Since McCollum ran a plan to spread the floor and keep the Florida bigs from clogging up the lane, we were able to have a lot of success under the basket. I'm betting if Florida switched things up to better protect under the basket Stirtz would have had an easier time getting into a rhythm. But it is what it is. Sometimes, you have to be the decoy to get the win.
It would be the way Florida would steal a basketball game from Iowa the way the stole a football bowl game back in the day. Alas, the basketball gods finally gave in.
True. Also remember the MASSIVE egos he'd have to deal with too.
You have to be a pretty solid coach to get those jobs.... yet guys are still failing to make the sweet 16 with a MASSIVE talent level advantage over most teams.
I don't see Ben going anywhere. Hopefully that's the case.
The NCAA, that bastion of foresight and fairness.