*****FDU vs Iowa NCAAT Game Thread*****

Scott559

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It does when you consider Ava had to play 33 minutes in a game where Iowa was favored by 30+.
Ava wasn't tested today on defense. Virginia's center scored 20+.

Ava has to be exhausted playing in that heat...80+ degrees on the court.
They're not getting a week off until the next game.

On the flip side Virginia had 3 players play over 40 minutes, Their two best players played 45 and 44 minutes, Seemed like it was pretty warm during their game as well. Ava will be tested, So will the Virginia post. I believe Ava will be up to the challenge. If Iowa is going to win the guard court needs to play a helluva lot better than they did vs FDU, Ava is the least of my worries.
 

WDSMHawk

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I'm not claiming Hannah is perfect, but she's excellent at more than one dimension. Obviously Ava is carrying. But Hannah did more than Chat to get us the ugly win yesterday. Hannah also did some heavy carrying in the 4th quarter against Michigan at the BTT.

Ironically enough Hannah might be the most well rounded player on the team with CC being a close second.
 

Jonesy5960

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I haven't read the game thread but how in the world can you outrebound them 47-28 and have 14 less fouls but they got off 12 more shots than we did?
Iowa shot 29 free throws to FDU's 2. Each set of free throws is one less FG attempt.
 
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Kylie during B1G tournament and yesterday, 0-13 from three. So, keep shooting, or not.
 

Jonesy5960

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It does when you consider Ava had to play 33 minutes in a game where Iowa was favored by 30+.
Ava wasn't tested today on defense. Virginia's center scored 20+.

Ava has to be exhausted playing in that heat...80+ degrees on the court.
They're not getting a week off until the next game.
Please don't tell me you think JJ coached a good game today?
Deal played 12 minutes in the 1st half and did little. Fortunately, JJ figured that out and Deal only played 2 minutes in 2nd half. Two airballs should have been an obvious clue.
JJ isn't helping AD's confidence when she leaves her out there when she's pressing or forcing things.
This isn't as complicated as you think.
So now we're blaming Jan for playing Deal too much? Half the board was constantly complaining that she doesn't get enough minutes for the first 3 months of the season. Tough to please people.
 

Anon1750875978

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So now we're blaming Jan for playing Deal too much? Half the board was constantly complaining that she doesn't get enough minutes for the first 3 months of the season. Tough to please people.
I don't recall people clamoring for her to play that much.

What I recall is people wondering why such a highly touted recruit hadn't EARNED more playing time.
There's a difference.
 

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All I know is if they play like this against Virginia they will lose by 15.
They won’t
I expect them to be much more mentally locked in.
FDU did a nice job mucking up the middle to their credit.
that being said TS and KF need to hit 3’s. Have to take some pressure off the paint.
hopefully a learning lesson for the team. No matter who you are playing this time of year you better show up…
 

Jonesy5960

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I don't recall people clamoring for her to play that much.

What I recall is people wondering why such a highly touted recruit hadn't EARNED more playing time.
There's a difference.
Nope. What you heard is that she needed more minutes to build confidence and be in peak form come tournament time
 

Jonesy5960

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Did JJ get her to that point?
The goal is to win games and Deal wasn't ready for a lot of minutes. She still isn't. She needs to improve. Period. Some of that is on Jan and the staff. Most of that is on Deal herself who is still a freshman learning how to play big time basketball.
 
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Anon1750875978

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You don't think that being ahead by one should be close?
Reading comprehension issues???
Look at the first half of my sentence. Iowa led 20-5 midway through the 1st quarter.
That lead was down to 1 point with six minutes to go.

What happened to go from a 15 pt lead to a 1 pt lead?
That 85 degree temp only by the Iowa bench?

I get it...some posters here are likely on a first name basis with JJ. Defending her is understandable.
Objectively seems to be in short supply, tho.
 
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Jonesy5960

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They have to shoot the rock! Must show something to open up inside game. My problem yesterday is that all four Iowa guards looked like they were afraid to shoot and miss, can’t play like that!
When Kylie is taking more shots than Stremlow and only 2 less than CCW it's a problem for Iowa. The opponent knows this. Iowa can take the bait or not.
 

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This board loves to hate Hannah.
Again, over generalizing. I doubt anybody here "hate " Hannah. I certainly don't. Shes a solid defender, and rebounder obviously. Its just as obvious that shes a liability in late game free throw situations. (heck any free throw situations, because they ALL count at the end of the game), and she often holds the ball at the free throw line, stopping movement because she can't consistently shoot a mid range jumper. Those are just plain facts after 4 years of play. Its not hate. I don't "hate" Kylie either. Still its obvious after 5 years that's she's more likely to miss almost any shot she takes, and to turn the ball over as both a passer or driver then to have a successful outcome. Pretty hard to argue someones stats after 4-5 years in college
 
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Kceasthawk@77

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So now we're blaming Jan for playing Deal too much? Half the board was constantly complaining that she doesn't get enough minutes for the first 3 months of the season. Tough to please people.
She really didn't have many options considering no one was playing well. Even Strem didn't seem to have that fire you usually see from her..
 

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Reading comprehension issues???
Look at the first half of my sentence. Iowa led 20-5 midway through the 1st quarter.
That lead was down to 1 point with six minutes to go.

What happened to go from a 15 pt lead to a 1 pt lead?
That 85 degree temp only by the Iowa bench?

I get it...some posters here are likely on a first name basis with JJ. Defending her is understandable.
Objectively seems to be in short supply, tho.
FDU's bench played 60 minutes; Iowa's played 24 minutes. In that kinda heat, the starters should have been rotated to the bench for some extra blows. Ava didn't look effected much, but CC, Taylor, and Kylie sure looked dead.

Also, FDU was ultra quick. Too quick for Kylie and Taylor. This would have been a good game to have Levin out there for 10 minutes or so.

Virginia isn't near a quick as FDU, so hopefully they'll be a better matchup for us.
 

Kceasthawk@77

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The goal is to win games and Deal wasn't ready for a lot of minutes. She still isn't. She needs to improve. Period. Some of that is on Jan and the staff. Most of that is on Deal herself who is still a freshman learning how to play big time basketball.
I just think her mindset as a player who played against major comp in high school is to try to make things happen. Unfortunately in a number of these game our backcourt has not played well, (the last two games, and the west coast games) and I think Deal is trying to do too much and not letting things come to her. Go back and watch the 1stQ. She came in and had two really nice post feeds, and a nice drive and score at the rim. We were up by 10+ at that point. Then when she came back in we were struggling, and I think she was trying to push the issue to lead the backcourt, and to make something happen.
 

Kceasthawk@77

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bench would be irrelevant if you could count on starters. But you can only count on 1

i don’t know what the point is you’re making. Except that it seems silly.
?????? I was referring to all the posters worrying about sitting the starters the 4th Q to rest...
 

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I'm not claiming Hannah is perfect, but she's excellent at more than one dimension. Obviously Ava is carrying. But Hannah did more than Chat to get us the ugly win yesterday. Hannah also did some heavy carrying in the 4th quarter against Michigan at the BTT.
She’s great on effort, like when she runs the floor and rebounds. But her shooting is a big hindrance.
 

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The "quick" was definitely a problem. Didn't see Iowa try to compete against it until late in the 4th.
 

Jonesy5960

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I just think her mindset as a player who played against major comp in high school is to try to make things happen. Unfortunately in a number of these game our backcourt has not played well, (the last two games, and the west coast games) and I think Deal is trying to do too much and not letting things come to her. Go back and watch the 1stQ. She came in and had two really nice post feeds, and a nice drive and score at the rim. We were up by 10+ at that point. Then when she came back in we were struggling, and I think she was trying to push the issue to lead the backcourt, and to make something happen.
Probably, but I don't think too much or too little minutes has anything to do with how she's played or developed this year. She just needs to grow into a better more consistent player.
 

Anon1750875978

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So I agree with this. I'd also rather see Journey who only played 9 minutes yesterday at the 3 than Deal at times like this.
Post #448, you criticized me for saying Deal got too many minutes yesterday.

Now you're saying Deal got too many minutes yesterday.

WTF.
Don't ever change.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Plus...you never answered post #455?
 

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Deal obviously had a terrible shooting day, but I did appreciate how active and on point some of her passes were. Today she played more like a non-shooting PG. I am sure she is as disappointed in her shooting today as anyone. I am not sure why, but I have a feeling tomorrow is a great bounce back game for her.
 

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She's the leading rebounder, second leading scorer, and has a decent assist to TO ratio (better than Ava). Her FT shooting is a problem.
She can’t shoot, can only finish going over her left shoulder with a right handed drive into the lane. Do you watch the games? And Ava is getting trapped constantly in the post. She literally needs a four that can hit a wide open ten foot jumper. You could average 20 a game just hitting that shot when the defense collapses on Ava. I’m not hating on Hannah but let’s call it like it is.
 
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Jonesy5960

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Post #448, you criticized me for saying Deal got too many minutes yesterday.

Now you're saying Deal got too many minutes yesterday.

WTF.
Don't ever change.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Plus...you never answered post #455?
I would rather see Journey at the 3 vs Deal today. I've been nothing but consistent all year in terms of my position on which players I think should see the floor. With respect to the guards I've been pushing Stremlow all year over Deal. With respect to the freshman, Journey and Deal haven't been playing the same position, but if there are minutes at the 3 and, then I'd rather Journey be first in line for those today.

My point about Deal in general is that there was a significant number of posters complaining that Jan needed to give Deal more minutes to build confidence. Now there are posters on here (like you) complaining that she's playing her too much and that's hurting her confidence? Maybe you guys all just like to complain about Jan??

Oh, and I did answer your question.
 
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