Sorry but that’s pretty lame
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Sorry but that’s pretty lame
I think you’re thinking of the jesuits.
Jeff’s voice, and @SlipperyPete ‘s typing… a legendary pair!
Apparently their bus door was jammed at the Big Ten tournament… not sure how long, but long enough for someone here to notice and get a picture of him, screwdriver in hand, scowl on face!
Because it's a real thing. They don't always hate the program it's self but the institution it represents.
My random final thoughts on this year’s iteration of the NCAAs:
- Really cool to see Columbia get a high AA. I was concerned that he may get poached right after until they said he’s a senior.
- I have a vain hope that Donny Pritzlaff will stick around at Columbia and keep churning out good kids.
- I was hoping Little would make the finals for LR, but alas..
- Still not sure what in the blue hell happened to Hepner in the QF. Went from having a stretcher brought out for him to finishing the match and AAing.
- I was happy for Van Dee when he made the medal rounds. Apparently it’s the second year in a row he’s lost his first match and come all the way back through to AA.
- I really thought Duke had a huge weight lifted off his shoulders when he lost to Antrell because he finally started wrestling to his abilities, but then he clammed back up in the semis for whatever reason.
- Blaze really needs to open up more on his feet. Forest proved you can make seemingly high school technique (leg ride, ball and chain tilts, etc.) work. Blaze just has to trust himself enough to wrestle to score points rather than keep things close.
- Lastly, I’m not sure what we do about the stalling and edge wrestling, but it’s gotta change. So many kids (HS and college) just play the edge and don’t really work to score. It’s hurting the overall product at a time when wrestling is arguably more visible than ever.
- Really cool to see Columbia get a high AA. I was concerned that he may get poached right after until they said he’s a senior.
- I have a vain hope that Donny Pritzlaff will stick around at Columbia and keep churning out good kids.
- I was hoping Little would make the finals for LR, but alas..
- Still not sure what in the blue hell happened to Hepner in the QF. Went from having a stretcher brought out for him to finishing the match and AAing.
- I was happy for Van Dee when he made the medal rounds. Apparently it’s the second year in a row he’s lost his first match and come all the way back through to AA.
- I really thought Duke had a huge weight lifted off his shoulders when he lost to Antrell because he finally started wrestling to his abilities, but then he clammed back up in the semis for whatever reason.
- Blaze really needs to open up more on his feet. Forest proved you can make seemingly high school technique (leg ride, ball and chain tilts, etc.) work. Blaze just has to trust himself enough to wrestle to score points rather than keep things close.
- Lastly, I’m not sure what we do about the stalling and edge wrestling, but it’s gotta change. So many kids (HS and college) just play the edge and don’t really work to score. It’s hurting the overall product at a time when wrestling is arguably more visible than ever.
Former NHL coach Bruce Boudreau once said of caps’ d-man John Carlson, “glory follows him”.
between the screwdriver, the bathrobes, the tanning, Aruba, and on and on, in Tom’s case, I can’t help but think “memes follow him”.
Anyone else notice who's missing from the team photo? Depending on the angle of the photographer from the several versions of the same picture I've seen he's basically missing from all of them.
No, though Shane has joked about it a few times during broadcasts lol
one thing PSU has that others do not is our level of Bonus points. If you teach your wrestlers to stall they will not develope a pure joy for their sport, not create the mindset to deliver Bonus points like PSU. So even if OSU gets close they (for now) do not come close to our level on Bonus points.
Only if he ripped off his Cael mask and it was really Shapiro.
Cocaine Shane's real name is Shane Nebl.
Some posters are proposing a rule saying you can't win a match without a takedown.
If that were implemented, then any match with no takedowns would have to go to OT regardless of the score.
Of course such a rule would never be passed. This is merely fans posting emotionally without thinking things thru.
Here's a thought: PJ Duke handled his getting screwed by the refs with much more dignity and class than I did!
Agree with basically all of this except the part about Moran being a head scratching loss.
Moran is really good!
Probably not. But, Oklahoma state is at least going to position themselves to give Penn state something to think about in the future here.
I give up. Who?
This little quip is a little bit of what you see on the internet and as we know the internet can be life to some. Especially the younginz
the hate comes from an internal personal place but manifests like this
I'm pretty sure I typed that I'd get it to you as soon as I drove back from Cleveland to the Carlisle Pike in the Harrisburg area, dropped the rental car key in the after hours box, then realized my phone was locked in the rental car and thus I'd drive to a local bar in the Middletown area so I could get WiFi and message the Enterprise people about it thus making it tomorrow's problem. So, I'm not sure why it came out the way it did above.
Anyway, by my count, the final total was: 148-12.
I think it’s good for the sport and I say that without bias.
this sport was dieing and still has a waaaaaays to go as we see the Hs ffs still a problem. But I don’t think anyone would say the on the mat product is the same or worse than years ago. Frankly the freshman are more than ready than ever to compete in college.
the save Olympic wrestling movement gave us a red alert moment. It gave us RTCs and more ways for our top athletes to train and be around other great athletes and the talent is embracing it.
as far as the dynasty goes. Wrestling as a sport is about team/clubs/programs that get on a run. This is seen at the local, state and college levels for the last 40-50 years. Clubs go on runs, Which then helps HS which then help colleges. I think this is about families and friends that pull together. It takes a village type thing….
If we are talking about psu, well ok st was on the backside slide. Coleman wasn’t going to make ok state great again but a dude came along and with his money and drive which will allow DT to build a monster. That competition at psu/ok state will get out to tOSU, Iowa and others and the sport will get better. Could be a future ok state run in the cards but if there is, the product on the mat will be better because a rising tide raises all ships in my opinion. I don’t care about fans feelings and needing their “team” to win for their own personal well being. The product is what is important.
referees on the other hand is a problem and youth parents are just puke worthy
Mid 1970s thru early 1980s ties were part of dual season. I believe in tournament it was criteria Unsportsmanlike, near fall, takedown, ECT. If still tied it was ref decision on who was more aggressive..
Cael? ut oh. Is he in the portal??
Because I was bored and procrastinating away household chores ... here's a first look at 2027 NCAA Returning Points.
As always:
- This is an imperfect predictor of next year's tournament. It's a starting point.
- It includes 2026 NCAA points for all returnees who competed this year. If this wasn't their best tourney (Nick Feldman), oh well.
- For those who did not compete this year, their last tournament is included -- not their best one. Example, 2025 Caleb Henson as a finalist, not 2024 Henson as a champ.
- It's possible for a team to return more points than they scored in 2026 -- example, VT with Henson returning 16.0 points from 2025.
- I tried to not duplicate weights -- example, did not include both Duke and Kasak. I might have missed some ... it's probably not making that much of a difference.
- Seniors are excluded but attrition otherwise not reflected. Everybody does not move up because of the top 3 HWTs graduating.
- It does not reflect weight changes or transfers or dismissals. Those will be captured when known. Teams will not lose points when a guy enters the portal, only when he actually leaves.
- It does not include incoming or shirting freshmen because they never scored at NCAAs, duh.
- The "Not Included" column is intended to help ID opportunities. Not all listed guys will start. This column is a guide only.
Anyway, here is the top 10, with a major surprise at #3:
PSU should repeat next year barring multiple major injuries. OKST will be 2nd. After that, TBD with portal season.
Also note: Missouri could easily push into the top 10 with Mendoza and Rath entering the lineup; Cornell could also get there with 5 studs stored away at Middle Finger Lake Community College.
As always:
- This is an imperfect predictor of next year's tournament. It's a starting point.
- It includes 2026 NCAA points for all returnees who competed this year. If this wasn't their best tourney (Nick Feldman), oh well.
- For those who did not compete this year, their last tournament is included -- not their best one. Example, 2025 Caleb Henson as a finalist, not 2024 Henson as a champ.
- It's possible for a team to return more points than they scored in 2026 -- example, VT with Henson returning 16.0 points from 2025.
- I tried to not duplicate weights -- example, did not include both Duke and Kasak. I might have missed some ... it's probably not making that much of a difference.
- Seniors are excluded but attrition otherwise not reflected. Everybody does not move up because of the top 3 HWTs graduating.
- It does not reflect weight changes or transfers or dismissals. Those will be captured when known. Teams will not lose points when a guy enters the portal, only when he actually leaves.
- It does not include incoming or shirting freshmen because they never scored at NCAAs, duh.
- The "Not Included" column is intended to help ID opportunities. Not all listed guys will start. This column is a guide only.
Anyway, here is the top 10, with a major surprise at #3:
# | Team | Pts | Not included |
1 | Penn State | 155.0 | Ono, Desmond, Kasak, Henckel, James |
2 | Oklahoma State | 116.5 | Ramirez, Raney twins, Ross |
3 | Stanford | 80.5 | |
4 | Nebraska | 69.0 | Zinkin, Eise |
5 | Virginia Tech | 51.5 | Bassett |
6 | Iowa | 43.0 | DeLuca, Williams, Estrada, Ludington, imports |
7 | Ohio State | 43.0 | Munaretto, Mills, Shaw |
8 | Michigan | 36.0 | Aslikyan, Peterson, Mendoza, Lemley, Gilcher, Sahakian |
9 | Wyoming | 35.5 | |
10 | Minnesota | 34.5 |
PSU should repeat next year barring multiple major injuries. OKST will be 2nd. After that, TBD with portal season.
Also note: Missouri could easily push into the top 10 with Mendoza and Rath entering the lineup; Cornell could also get there with 5 studs stored away at Middle Finger Lake Community College.
Truly no issue to me . He didn't throw a fit or an outburst. Just wasn't thrilled to shake hands .
Old coaches saying.
"Show me a kid that likes losing and I'll show you a kid that loses a lot"
Overall thoughts:
- 13 National Championships in the last 15 years. Cael is 3 championships away from breaking Gable's record and he's only in his late 40's.
- PSU broke its overall points record for the third consecutive year despite 2 non-AA's and Duke/Blaze leaving points on the board. 4 national champs, including well-deserved firsts for Lilledahl and Barr.
- SVN and Duke will have no shortage of motivation for next year.
- PSU has the overall dual match streak at 86 wins and can potentially put this out of reach for good next year.
- PSU returns everyone except for Haines. Zero chance OK State will redshirt Forrest, Vega or Robideau after winning NCs as Freshman. PSU can afford to redshirt Blaze, Davis and Duke and will still be the presumptive NC favorite in 2027. Makes sense to give Blaze and Duke a year of separation from the others if they buy in
- Lots of guys clearing out at 125 and HWY for next season. Can Cole add some good weight for next year?
- Officiating was a major issue this tournament, incredibly inconsistent. Far too many breather bricks, and reviews took way too long.
- Our opponents' strategy seems centered around lacing fingers (McGowan/Robideau), backing up off the whistle (Merrill), and head slapping from a distance while circling towards the middle (Antrell). Was refreshing to see the official ding McGowan, although arguably it should have happened sooner.
- I get the issue with how to police finger lacing, but issue a caution when it's obvious (i.e. Luke wiggling his arms for the first half of his match). Hitting the offending wrestling with a caution violation isn't too egregious, would have to happen 3x times to be at risk of losing a point. Same with the rampant head slapping.
- A wrestler who hits a committed shot and has a control of the opponent's leg or drives them off the mat should get a point. Tired of seeing guys wrestle from the boundary and do nothing for 3 periods, do the splits and get pushed OOB with "continuous action" and non stall calls, and get rewarded in SV when they're less tired than their opponents.
- 3 points for a reversal. Harder to execute than getting out on bottom, and in many cases, only get a 1 point benefit when the bottom wrestler escapes.
Lol Palacio. So much hatred, so little cope or significance. He'd be a good reason to hate Cornell except why bother with him or them. And just wait until he learns where Kyle Dake has been the past few years.
But At Least He Finally Broke His Years-Long Habit Of Capitalizing Every Word As If Writing Book Titles. That's a small win for society.
Tyler Dekraker will start and make an impact at Minnesota right out of the gate, whether at 141 or 149.