Democrats refuse to pay DHS Employees

TigerGrowls

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BREAKING — IT’S OFFICIAL: Democrats have TANKED the funding bill to re-open TSA and DHS, intentionally making the American people SUFFER while they continue skipping the line, 47-37

16 Senators couldn't even be bothered to show up to VOTE.

These people are the scum of the earth.

They couldn’t care less about you or your family.
 

scotchtiger

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Are you guys seeing issues with TSA right now? I’ve entered the TSA security line at MSY, CHS and LGA all in the last week and have had zero problems. Even at LGA (New York La Guardia for non-travelers), the Touchless ID line (even better than Clear with TSA btw) had like 5 people in front of me. I was through in <5 min.

I do feel like I should tip them or something though. What an embarrassment by our government.
 

Moogy

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A 2 week stop gap measure to get these folks paid to lessen the pain was stoned by the gutless democrats. Disgusting.


Trump’s fabulous negotiating skills on display, once again.
1. Tantrum
2. Whine
3. Insult
4. Threaten

or TWIT, for short.

Remember when Trump said you’d have to be a horrible negotiator to end up in a war with Iran?
 

dbjork6317

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Are you guys seeing issues with TSA right now? I’ve entered the TSA security line at MSY, CHS and LGA all in the last week and have had zero problems. Even at LGA (New York La Guardia for non-travelers), the Touchless ID line (even better than Clear with TSA btw) had like 5 people in front of me. I was through in <5 min.

I do feel like I should tip them or something though. What an embarrassment by our government.
Is clear worth it? And how do you get access to touchless ID? I have pre check and that’s been fine but always open to ways to make my flying experience quicker/more convenient especially now that I’m flying out of LGA/JFK/EWR.

When I was in OKC or Little Rock I could get there an hour before takeoff and still be early to the gate, parking time included.
 

scotchtiger

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Is clear worth it? And how do you get access to touchless ID? I have pre check and that’s been fine but always open to ways to make my flying experience quicker/more convenient especially now that I’m flying out of LGA/JFK/EWR.

When I was in OKC or Little Rock I could get there an hour before takeoff and still be early to the gate, parking time included.

Clear is 100% worth it. You can get it for free of discounted with certain CCs or status like Delta Diamond. Pretty sure it’s free for me and my family at this point.

Not sure on Touchless. Just started showing up in my boarding pass a while back. I think you may be able to sign up through your preferred airline. Usually a bit faster at the NYC airports and other big ones where Clear has become popular. They also just added it in Charleston, not that the regular TSA is ever that bad.

Global entry is also 100% worth it. I make short trips to Europe a few times a year and it’s incredibly convenient, esp when you aren’t checking bags. I made a tight international connection back in January returning through ATL. Next flight started boarding 2 min after I deplaned and still made it thanks to GE.
 

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Are you guys seeing issues with TSA right now? I’ve entered the TSA security line at MSY, CHS and LGA all in the last week and have had zero problems. Even at LGA (New York La Guardia for non-travelers), the Touchless ID line (even better than Clear with TSA btw) had like 5 people in front of me. I was through in <5 min.

I do feel like I should tip them or something though. What an embarrassment by our government.
Use touchless so didn’t have any issue but pre check was the length of the terminal. 30 min was my guess. Don’t even know where regular security is.
 

tigres88

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BREAKING — IT’S OFFICIAL: Democrats have TANKED the funding bill to re-open TSA and DHS, intentionally making the American people SUFFER while they continue skipping the line, 47-37

16 Senators couldn't even be bothered to show up to VOTE.

These people are the scum of the earth.

They couldn’t care less about you or your family.

All you do is post lies and propaganda after propaganda after propaganda and then more lies.

Republicans have shot down SEVEN standalone bills to fund TSA by the Democrats so the Republicans could shoehorn in a bunch of funding for ICE and other stuff. Hell the Republicans shot down standalone bills for TSA/FEMA/the Coast Guard each from Democrats too because they are trying to force a comprehensive bill rather than actually voting to fund our government agencies. Democrats are fine with a comprehensive bill if the Republicans agree to reforms in ICE and CBP.

Once again, this is all on Republicans being di ck heads.

Privatizing TSA is in Project 2025, so this goes completely in line with what this Administration wants anyway.
 

PalmettoTiger1

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All you do is post lies and propaganda after propaganda after propaganda and then more lies.

Republicans have shot down SEVEN standalone bills to fund TSA by the Democrats so the Republicans could shoehorn in a bunch of funding for ICE and other stuff. Hell the Republicans shot down standalone bills for TSA/FEMA/the Coast Guard each from Democrats too because they are trying to force a comprehensive bill rather than actually voting to fund our government agencies. Democrats are fine with a comprehensive bill if the Republicans agree to reforms in ICE and CBP.

Once again, this is all on Republicans being di ck heads.

Privatizing TSA is in Project 2025, so this goes completely in line with what this Administration wants anyway.

Great spin but your clothes were filthy going in
 

scotchtiger

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Line was as long as I’ve ever seen it at CHS for pre-check. Still through in 6-8 min or so. Touchless lane was not open. Heard multiple people thank the agents for being there.
 

TigerGrowls

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BREAKING: In a phone call just minutes ago President Trump told me Democrats want to make a deal on DHS funding but he doesn’t “think any deal should be made on this until they approve save America.”

First I asked him how long he’s prepared to have ice agents help out at airports

He told me, “For as long as it takes.”

Then I asked “Some lawmakers are saying they should just fund TSA while they negotiate on DHS. What do you think about that?”

President Trump said “Now that I did this the Democrats want to make a deal. And I don’t think any deal should be made on this until they approve SAVE America. Ok, so you have a scoop.”
 

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TSA is funded by taxpayer money & passenger fees. When you buy an airline ticket you pay a "security fee" which is collected by the airline & remitted to the government. We are paying FOR our security. Chuck Schumer & the democrats are holding our money hostage & using it to withhold funding to other agencies that we also have already paid FOR OUR SECURITY. The democrats are once again putting the American people in danger. A danger they made 1000 times worse with their open borders.
 

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If this is true, then we know the MAGAts, who would typically rail against such actions as pork-promoting waste ... will now be hailing the actions as masterful negotiation whilst voicing a thousand Heil Trumps.
 
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bdgan

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A 2 week stop gap measure to get these folks paid to lessen the pain was stoned by the gutless democrats. Disgusting.


ICE moved out of Minnesota.
Noem was fired.
Agents will wear body cameras.

Democrat response: Don't pay TSA agents. Don't let Musk pay them. Don't allow ICE agents to help. Just keep screwing up the economy and blame it on Trump.
 

bdgan

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Are you guys seeing issues with TSA right now? I’ve entered the TSA security line at MSY, CHS and LGA all in the last week and have had zero problems. Even at LGA (New York La Guardia for non-travelers), the Touchless ID line (even better than Clear with TSA btw) had like 5 people in front of me. I was through in <5 min.

I do feel like I should tip them or something though. What an embarrassment by our government.
I have a crazy idea. If you're not working because you've been deemed non essential you shouldn't be paid or even get back pay. If you're deemed essential and are required to work you have to be paid.
 
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yoshi121374

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Clear is 100% worth it. You can get it for free of discounted with certain CCs or status like Delta Diamond. Pretty sure it’s free for me and my family at this point.

Not sure on Touchless. Just started showing up in my boarding pass a while back. I think you may be able to sign up through your preferred airline. Usually a bit faster at the NYC airports and other big ones where Clear has become popular. They also just added it in Charleston, not that the regular TSA is ever that bad.

Global entry is also 100% worth it. I make short trips to Europe a few times a year and it’s incredibly convenient, esp when you aren’t checking bags. I made a tight international connection back in January returning through ATL. Next flight started boarding 2 min after I deplaned and still made it thanks to GE.

I love global entry. I got it covered with our Capital One Venture x card
 

tigres88

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ICE moved out of Minnesota.
Noem was fired.
Agents will wear body cameras.

Democrat response: Don't pay TSA agents. Don't let Musk pay them. Don't allow ICE agents to help. Just keep screwing up the economy and blame it on Trump.
This is why you often lose credibility here- Read unbiased news and find what ACTUALLY happened (Dems offered 7 bills to fund TSA, and also bills to fund FEMA and the Coast Guard) and to push the conversation about ICE and its reform down the road, and republicans shut them all down.

I need to verify this, but apparently there was a bipartisan effort to get TSA, FEMA, and Coast Guard funded as well recently, and push ICE funding/reform down the road as well. And Trump Veto'd it.
 

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I'm with 90% of Americans who support the SAVE act but I disagree that it should be used to get homeland security funded.

And, here we go with the lies.

This is a normal tactic of the slimy folks. You want to portray yourself as reasonable and objective ... and then you go and pull this crap, revealing yourself to be a slimy charlatan, just like your Fuhrer.

Both sides of the political aisle lie in this manner ... you'll see a bill that's being promoted as addressing some widespread held ideal, or helping some vulnerable class of people ... but it's written horribly, with potential unintended side effects/unanswered questions, or it also includes bad stuff that is being glossed over. Sometimes it includes pork.

And when someone voices opposition to the bill, the yells come out that they're against ... saving babies from being raped, or clubbing little people, or whatever stupidity they can dream up.

The great majority of people are for ID/proof of citizenship to vote ... but that doesn't mean they're for the SAVE act.

Just do the reasonable thing ... if you are going to demand ID/proof of citizenship, put the financial and administrative burden on the government, so it doesn't act as an exclusionary poll tax that disenfranchises voters. That addresses the complaints from the left, and doesn't allow the right to disenfranchise voters, while also addressing potential fraud (an issue that, like most issues promoted by the right is WAY overblown). But, then, everyone is happy ... however, we know that the Second Reich isn't at all concerned with that.
 

dpic73

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I'm with 90% of Americans who support the SAVE act but I disagree that it should be used to get homeland security funded.
They agree with showing ID to vote, however, they DO NOT agree with THIS government scrubbing every state's voter rolls, requiring anyone who moves or has a name change to re-register with an original copy of their birth certificate and/or a passport(poll tax) or having to bring your marriage certificate to their voting precinct. And all to prevent the possibility that a few undocumented people might try to vote. If you were honest with yourself and not a partisan flame-thrower, you'd recognize this for what it really is....a voter suppression bill.
 
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This is why you often lose credibility here- Read unbiased news and find what ACTUALLY happened (Dems offered 7 bills to fund TSA, and also bills to fund FEMA and the Coast Guard) and to push the conversation about ICE and its reform down the road, and republicans shut them all down.

I need to verify this, but apparently there was a bipartisan effort to get TSA, FEMA, and Coast Guard funded as well recently, and push ICE funding/reform down the road as well. And Trump Veto'd it.
Dpic + credibility = oxymoron

Democrats have voted no on 5 separate bills to fund TSA
 

bdgan

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Both sides of the political aisle lie in this manner ... you'll see a bill that's being promoted as addressing some widespread held ideal, or helping some vulnerable class of people ... but it's written horribly, with potential unintended side effects/unanswered questions, or it also includes bad stuff that is being glossed over. Sometimes it includes pork.
There's definitely politics on both sides but this shouldn't be a political issue. Clean bill - pay the workers. Reps will do that but Dems won't do it unless they get other things they want. It's really that simple.
 
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There's definitely politics on both sides but this shouldn't be a political issue. Clean bill - pay the workers. Reps will do that but Dems won't do it unless they get other things they want. It's really that simple.

How are you saying that this is the Dems who won't "do it" when there is reporting literally stating the opposite?

Also, for the record, the Republicans in the Senate do not want to do the Save Act. They know the issues and what it will mean. This is completely white house/Trump driven.
 
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Dpic + credibility = oxymoron

Democrats have voted no on 5 separate bills to fund TSA

There's definitely politics on both sides but this shouldn't be a political issue. Clean bill - pay the workers. Reps will do that but Dems won't do it unless they get other things they want. It's really that simple.
Again, you lose credibility the more you're dishonest. The Democrats have introduced 7, straight forward, clean bills to fund TSA- Republicans voted no each time, including this weekend. They've introduced other straight forward, clean bills to fund FEMA and the Coast Guard.

The Republicans voted No on ALL of them. Everyone knows why, it's not a secret- they want a Comprehensive bill that adds funding for Ice without reforms. Democrats are PUSHING to have TSA, Fema, and the Coast Guard funded but want reforms for ICE. So they did it the correct way- get bills passed everyone agrees on, and negotiate on what they don't down the road.

Further, I did verify it. Thune DID approached President Trump yesterday with a compromise: fund the entirety of the Department of Homeland Security (including TSA, FEMA, and the Coast Guard) right now, but leave ICE funding out of it to be handled later through a separate reconciliation bill. Thune informed the president that both Senate Republicans and Democrats were on board with this plan, and it was comprehensive (though without ICE funding/reform). Trump DID reject/veto it.

Quit lying and be honest, unlike the party you follow.
 
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Dpic + credibility = oxymoron

Democrats have voted no on 5 separate bills to fund TSA
LOL at you calling me out in a reply to someone else. But I implore you to point out why I'm not credible though I suspect it's only because you don't like that I call your fuhrer what he really is and that enrages a little toady like yourself.

Democrats have put forth seven bills to pay TSA but Pubs have turned down every one of them. Pubs and Dems also came to an agreement on a bill that Trump vetoed or threatened to unless they pass his voter suppression bill first. Because he knows he's going to get his *** stomped in the midterms unless he can reduce the number of voters and you know it, so stop your crying. Your president is a despicable POS.
 
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There's definitely politics on both sides but this shouldn't be a political issue. Clean bill - pay the workers. Reps will do that but Dems won't do it unless they get other things they want. It's really that simple.

You responded to my comment, which was in regard to the SAVE act, with propaganda about paying TSA workers.

Why?
 

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A rather sizeable (one might even say yuge) Blue Wave is forming. Go Team Blue! This Trump Recession is great! A bit of temporary economic pain is well worth it, because the electorate knows that Trump is solely responsible for it, and it will pay big dividends come November. With due apologies to Bart Scott, I can't wait!!
 

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Did those bills ONLY fund the TSA?
Dude is being obtuse and disingenuous and outright lying through his teeth, see here "clean bill":


There's definitely politics on both sides but this shouldn't be a political issue. Clean bill - pay the workers. Reps will do that but Dems won't do it unless they get other things they want. It's really that simple.
 

dpic73

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Let me get this straight.

The leading Senate Republican walked into the White House Sunday with a bipartisan deal to end the TSA nightmare. Fund everything except ICE now, get TSA agents paid today, handle ICE separately.

Senate Republicans and Democrats said yes.

Trump said no.

Why? Because Trump is holding TSA workers’ paychecks hostage to try and force Congress to pass the SAVE Act, a voter suppression bill that would knock millions of eligible Americans off the voter rolls. He wants to make it harder for Americans to vote.

Like a petulant child flipping the board when he’s losing, Trump torched a bipartisan deal his own Senate leader handed him on a silver platter. His tantrum continues as he unleashes ICE agents into airports. Agents with zero screening training, zero TSA authority, and a good chance of making everything worse.

Democrats have been ready to fund TSA from day one. What we refuse to do is write a blank check for an ICE agency that gunned down two American citizens in Minneapolis and still demands the ability to kick down doors without a judge’s approval while hiding behind masks.

We will not pass the SAVE Act either. Call it what it is: the SAVE REPUBLICANS Act. Non-citizen voting is already illegal. It was illegal yesterday. It will be illegal tomorrow. This bill solves nothing except the Republican party’s losing electoral math.

Fund TSA. Reform ICE. End this today.

Trump is the one standing in the way.