BB: UK IN PURSUIT OF QUINN ELLIS, BRITISH GUARD OF ITALY OLIMPIA MILANO

Catphright23

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Lol we whif on people when we have 11 players. Has any 11 players said they were gonna transfer. Moreno, Jasper, hawthorne, jelavic, williams, Chandler, garrison, MO D, Potter, lowe or noah has any said were gonna leave.
If not shut up. When a freshmen sees 11 guys, where is the playing time at. When they transfer, it's another thing.
They will but what other freshmen sees 11 potential players back and says okay.
 
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bnewt5

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Lol we whif on people when we have 11 players. Has any 11 players said they were gonna transfer. Moreno, Jasper, hawthorne, jelavic, williams, Chandler, garrison, MO D, Potter, lowe or noah has any said were gonna leave.
If not shut up. When a freshmen sees 11 guys, where is the playing time at. When they transfer, it's another thing.
They will but what other freshmen sees 11 potential players back and says okay.
Do you not understand how terrible this group is?
Pope better tell most, if not all of them to pack their bags and find some other sucker to pay them inflated wages.
 

JASUN74

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Will he play 3 games and then draw his check the rest of the year.
It’ll be at Duke or somewhere else so it won’t be our problem. lol. God I’m starting to get really mad at myself for thinking negative all the time about my beloved Cats. I absolutely hate to feel like this. Some positivity please!! Get us a recruit or three!
 
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JASUN74

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Not to derail the bitchfest. But I have thought Popes offensive system might favor Euro players kinda like the path Illinois has taken with their roster.
I mean yeah with the right guys it can definitely work. Need great passing bigs, great couple of shooters and guys who cut cut cut all game and actually work hard to get open. They’re out there and we just need to get them. Without the injury’s last year I honestly had high expectations for a big run.
 
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UKortho

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Cayden will be back plus Rippey. Playing time might keep him away from Duke.

Not sure this guy would be better as a backup than Lowe.

25/26 Stats
3.9 assists. 1.5 turnovers
1 steal
1.7 threes attempted per game. 45%
—Note (why you might see different numbers)
• Some team-level splits (like EuroLeague-only samples) show a lower % (~24%), but that’s from small sample sizes 
• The broader season sample (~45%) is a better indicator of his shooting ability right now

53% 2 point%

Quinn Ellis vs Jaland Lowe (2025–26)
• Points: Ellis ~7.8 | Lowe ~8.0
• Rebounds: Ellis ~4.3 | Lowe ~2.1
• Assists: Ellis ~3.9 | Lowe ~2.4
• Turnovers: Ellis ~1.5 | Lowe ~0.9
• FG%: Ellis ~50% | Lowe ~36%
• 3PT%: Ellis ~45% | Lowe ~21%



🧠 Bottom line
• Ellis: More efficient, better all-around
• Lowe: Similar scoring, less efficient, smaller role

👉 Edge right now: Ellis
 

mash_24

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Cayden will be back plus Rippey. Playing time might keep him away from Duke.

Not sure this guy would be better as a backup than Lowe.

25/26 Stats
3.9 assists. 1.5 turnovers
1 steal
1.7 threes attempted per game. 45%
—Note (why you might see different numbers)
• Some team-level splits (like EuroLeague-only samples) show a lower % (~24%), but that’s from small sample sizes 
• The broader season sample (~45%) is a better indicator of his shooting ability right now

53% 2 point%

Quinn Ellis vs Jaland Lowe (2025–26)
• Points: Ellis ~7.8 | Lowe ~8.0
• Rebounds: Ellis ~4.3 | Lowe ~2.1
• Assists: Ellis ~3.9 | Lowe ~2.4
• Turnovers: Ellis ~1.5 | Lowe ~0.9
• FG%: Ellis ~50% | Lowe ~36%
• 3PT%: Ellis ~45% | Lowe ~21%



🧠 Bottom line
• Ellis: More efficient, better all-around
• Lowe: Similar scoring, less efficient, smaller role

👉 Edge right now: Ellis
Unfortunately I’m afraid Pope still might see Lowe as the starting PG next year. Which IMO would be compounding his mistake.
 

Padsfs07

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Cayden will be back plus Rippey. Playing time might keep him away from Duke.

Not sure this guy would be better as a backup than Lowe.

25/26 Stats
3.9 assists. 1.5 turnovers
1 steal
1.7 threes attempted per game. 45%
—Note (why you might see different numbers)
• Some team-level splits (like EuroLeague-only samples) show a lower % (~24%), but that’s from small sample sizes 
• The broader season sample (~45%) is a better indicator of his shooting ability right now

53% 2 point%

Quinn Ellis vs Jaland Lowe (2025–26)
• Points: Ellis ~7.8 | Lowe ~8.0
• Rebounds: Ellis ~4.3 | Lowe ~2.1
• Assists: Ellis ~3.9 | Lowe ~2.4
• Turnovers: Ellis ~1.5 | Lowe ~0.9
• FG%: Ellis ~50% | Lowe ~36%
• 3PT%: Ellis ~45% | Lowe ~21%



🧠 Bottom line
• Ellis: More efficient, better all-around
• Lowe: Similar scoring, less efficient, smaller role

👉 Edge right now: Ellis



Another good comparison is Dame Sarr as well. He competed in a little better league, the Spanish Liga ACB, averaging 5.8 PPG to Ellis' 8.1 PPG in Italy's Lega Basket A.

Sarr starts for Duke, but averages just 6.3 PPG.
 

UKGrad24

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Unfortunately I’m afraid Pope still might see Lowe as the starting PG next year. Which IMO would be compounding his mistake.
If Lowe is the PG next season that’s a wrap. I find it odd, pope seems to love him some high volume low % PG. I thought he was some numbers genius? Ha raved and raved about kid that went to Cincinnati, went on and on last year about “finally landing him” and even told BBN “you’re welcome”. I went and looked and couldn’t understand what he was saying. Now Lowe is his guy?

Man I’m sorry I just think his 12 year no success history it telling at this point. It’s really bizarre, like he can’t evaluate worth a sht and goes after pieces that don’t fit at all. Lowe had awful offensive efficiency numbers and he thinks he’s the difference? Other posters have said it and I just don’t understand what they’re looking at.
 

TFCat11

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Apparently, Duke leads for his services.
And he’ll end up as their backup to Boozer! That’s the difference between UK and Duke now!

Edit: I just remembered Rippey is committed as well! Dude will probably STILL go there with DR and Boozer😂
 
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UKGrad24

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And he’ll end up as their backup to Boozer! That’s the difference between UK and Duke now!

Edit: I just remembered Rippey is committed as well! Dude will probably STILL go there with DR and Boozer😂
It is truly amazing what Barnhart has done. And I mean it’s not something small, Barnhart is a walking disaster and the guy was able to remain for 24 years. It’s unbelievable. I’ve never seen anything like it in sports on any level. I thought Mozeliak was horrible (STL cards GM) but he landed great players he just wasn’t good at aspects like rebuilding and talent eval. Barnhart is bad at everything, literally everything about running a major program. He’s not here to win that’s obvious, I just think most AD’s job depends on advocating for their main sport, Barnhart has some kind of arrangement to sell it short and suck money away, or something. It’s really bizarre if you listen and look at it from the perspective of what other AD’s do.
 

megablue

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Gonzaga actually started it when Tommy Lloyd was an assistant there. Lloyd didn't want to wait for Few to retire.
Absolutely right !! I suspect LLoyd will accept the Gonzaga coaching position when Few retires. It is my understanding that he did not sell his residence, in Spokane in anticipation of that return. That may not be correct, however.
 

ACCat#23

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Reported he wants 3 million yeah right
Considering the EuroLeague is the top brand of bball in Europe, I don't find a $3mil asking price to be too far out of the realm of possibility for a young dude of his potential and current skill. Most players use that league as a stepping stone to the NBA, not college ball, so he is more than qualified to run a college team IMO.

He's been great playing against older guys already. $3 mil in todays landscape for a proven dude like him - against grown men at that, not college or HS kids - doesn't sound too crazy to me given the current wild west landscape coaches are navigating in the early parts of NIL.

I think he'd be an upgrade over Lowe even if Lowe were to somehow not be injured.

That said, screw Duke. Smdh

Sleeper: Top Basketball Lesgues Worldwide by rank. ESPN agrees if you look it up yourself.
 
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BlueBloodKyFan73

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Considering the EuroLeague is the top brand of bball in Europe, I don't find a $3mil asking price to be too far out of the realm of possibility for a young dude of his potential and current skill.

He's been great playing against older guys already. 3 mil in todays landscape for a provwn dude like him - against grown men - doesn't sound too crazy to me given the current wild west landscape coaches are navigating in the early parts of NIL.

That said, screw Duke. Smdh

Per ESPN: Top Leagues worldwide outside the NBA.
Averaging 7.5 pts is not 3 million worth not even close if someone else wants to pay that good for them
 

ACCat#23

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Averaging 7.5 pts is not 3 million worth not even close if someone else wants to pay that good for them
I get what you mean but given he's so young and doing well in the second best basketball league in the world, I just respectfully disagree.

I'm not even convinced but with all the figures I see thrown out for recruits nowadays the ask seems reasonable. He will only get better, and hes already servicable in Europe's best Pro League. A lot to like IMO.

Wouldn't be the first time im wrong if I am though. Come back and call me out if so!!
 
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BlueBloodKyFan73

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I get what you mean but given he's so young and doing well in the second best basketball league in the world, I just respectfully disagree.

I'm not even convinced but with all the figures I see thrown out for recruits nowadays the ask seems reasonable. He will only get better, and hes already servicable in Europe's best Pro League. A lot to like IMO.

Wouldn't be the first time im wrong if I am though. Come back and call me out if so!!
It’s not the 2nd best league close to 8 or 9 as of 2025 and the site you look at they rank 4-9
 
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bnewt5

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Not many of the euro players have done that well. Illinois has had some luck, but most others were just average. The big guard that played for byu last year and the sarr guy at Duke this year were supposed to be stars, but weren't. Just like jelavic has been hit and miss
 

Padsfs07

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It’s not the 2nd best league close to 8 or 9 as of 2025 and the site you look at they rank 4-9

You are both right.

Ellis plays for Olympia Milano in Italy's top league - the Lega Basket Serie A - which is like the 5th best European league. Ellis has 7.8 PPG here.

The team also is in the Euroleague. Ellis has 8.1 PPG here.
 

The_Catfather

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Could you imagine overspending for this guy AND Dink Pate? I mean it could work out. But it could also fail so badly that it makes this season look like a joy.

I'd rather throw a bag at Tahaad Pettiford.
 

BlueBloodKyFan73

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Could you imagine overspending for this guy AND Dink Pate? I mean it could work out. But it could also fail so badly that it makes this season look like a joy.

I'd rather throw a bag at Tahaad Pettiford.
And he wouldn’t cost 3 million but would need big numbers on corporate sponsors like he’s getting from Under Armour and Panini his total deal with those sponsors is 8 million roughly
 
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wccat

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Can we have his shoulders checked? Two years for Pope and two blown shoulders for your starting PG. Go ahead and have a full body scan.