Live updates: Big Ten wrestling preseeds release on BTN
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Luke 1
Blaze 1
Davis 6
SVN 1
Duke 2
MM 1
Levi 1
Rocco 1
Barr 1
Cole 4
Blaze 1
Davis 6
SVN 1
Duke 2
MM 1
Levi 1
Rocco 1
Barr 1
Cole 4
did cannon and ferrarri move at all, who does davis have in qtr now?
Cael should figure out wrestling a tougher OOC schedule, and attend national duals is how the big boy coaches handle things. No need to reseed.
Nebraska wrestlers need to win the head to head matches instead of relying on AI
Who will each Penn State wrestler face first on Saturday?
Each bracket features 14 wrestlers, and the top two seeds receive byes to the quarterfinals. That means only Davis and Mirasola will compete in the opening round, while every other Penn State wrestler will wait to learn their first opponent of the tournament.
Here's the rundown (Note: The number in front of each wrestler's name is his Big Ten seed, not his national ranking):
125 pounds: No. 1 Luke Lilledahl, Penn State vs. the winner of No. 9 Diego Sotelo of Michigan and No. 8 Dean Peterson of Iowa in the quarterfinals
133 pounds: No.1 Marcus Blaze, PSU vs. the winner of No. 9 Dylan Shawver of Rutgers and No. 8 Braxton Brown of Maryland in the quarterfinals
141 pounds: No. 6 Braeden Davis, Penn State vs. No. 11 Dario Lemus of Maryland in the first round
149 pounds: No. 1 Shayne Van Ness, PSU vs. the winner of No. 9 Michael Gioffre of Illinois and No. 8 Ryder Block of Iowa in the quarterfinals
157 pounds: No. 2 PJ Duke, PSU vs. the winner of No. 10 Victor Voinovich of Iowa and No. 7 Brandon Cannon of Ohio State in the quarterfinals
165 pounds: No. 1 Mitchell Mesenbrink, Penn State vs. the winner of No. 9 Tyler Lillard of Indiana and No. 8 Paddy Gallagher in the quarterfinal
174 pounds: No. 1 Levi Haines, PSU vs. the winner of No. 9 Colin Kelly of Illinois and No. 8 Broady Baumann of Purdue in the quarterfinals
184 pounds: No. 1 Rocco Welsh, Penn State vs. the winner of No. 9 Sam Goin of Indiana and No. 8 Angelo Ferria of Iowa in the quarterfinals
197 pounds: No. 1 Josh Barr, PSU vs. the winner of No. 9 Ben Vanadia of Purdue and No. 8 Gabe Sollers of Indiana in the quarterfinals
285 pounds: No. 4 Cole Mirasola, Penn State vs. No. 13 Gabe Christenson of Northwestern in the first round
Oh the irony of a Mark Manning fan using the term big boy coach.
There is only one big boy coach in the ncaa division 1 wrestling realm. He lives in centre county. However it is awfully nice of you to stop by and offer your childish level opinion.
Takeaways: Haines to No. 1, Davis to No. 6, first opponent for each Nitany Lion is in the below link and also above:
www.on3.com
Who will each Penn State wrestler face first at Big Tens, and did anyone's seeds change in the official brackets?
Penn State wrestling is seeking its fourth straight Big Ten title. Here's a closer look at the tournament brackets.
If he figures that out, just maybe he’ll be able to match Nebraska’s record of success
Where was Davis before moving to 6 seed ?Takeaways: Haines to No. 1, Davis to No. 6, first opponent for each Nitany Lion is in the below link and also above:
Who will each Penn State wrestler face first at Big Tens, and did anyone's seeds change in the official brackets?
Penn State wrestling is seeking its fourth straight Big Ten title. Here's a closer look at the tournament brackets.
So there are only 3 wrestlers that have a chance to beat their seeds for PSU. And only 9 total spots that they can move to. That is crazy. That is why the metric of "Beating Seed" isn't a metric that PSU worries about. But Iowa certainly has a great chance to beat their seeds up and down the lineup
Cannon and Ferrari. Did their coaches plan this. Get our guys in second round instead of 4th. So they are more fresh. Big deal for ncaas if they win.
So for all of the bitching by people, only 9 positions were flipped, and only 3 in the top 3 seeds
Seems like the algorithm wasn't that bad, and adding a true H2H would have fixed most of the issues (as well as not double counting a few of the criteria) . We'll see what they do next year
Or was the intent to get everyone talking and excited about this, as it has been in the wrestling news since released. If it came out like this, there would have been only 15 minutes of discussion about the seeds.
The algorithim still sucks. You can't put a limit on something like the 15 point difference and then say something worked because very few positions changed when they were unable to correct things due to the false limit.
But with 7 allocations, by moving to 6, Scooter has a much easier first match, or at least it appears to be.
But 9 feels like a lot compared to years past.
You realize by dropping from 1/2 to 7/8 that they have to wrestle a match prior to meeting a fresh Duke/Rocco, right?!?!
Nebraska needs to do what they need to do tomorrow. Penn State does what they want to do. They choose to wrestle better competion at practice .
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Actually it seems pretty good for a first time use of a non QA/QC result (I'm assuming this wasn't checked before it was released). Hope that the changes discussed will be implemented for next year, and that will fix everything except for the exceptions (very good wrestlers that are injured and miss much of the season).
One other thing to consider is that it might be an artificially low number of changes due to the rule that wrestlers must be within 15 points. I am not sure the 15 point threshold was based in any deep thought or analysis.
This is a big one for Braden. He avoids hardy in second round
I doubt either one of them wrestle the entire tournament.
It was given the same amount of thought and analysis as the QC and QA processes were done to the original programming matrix.
None.
LoL HH. Come this Sunday and the Sunday after Nationals Cael will say to the "big boy coaches" Hold my beer!
BTW they could seed Levi anywhere they want and he will beat them all like a rented mule. You should be happy they move the PSU guys up. Gives the husker guys a chance to get in the top 8 [of the B1G]
Can they win first match and sit out? Would they have to do then what starocci did. Or do they wrestle that second match agasint number 1’s.
Hmm.... Without knowledge of what went on behind closed doors at the coaches mtg today and any constraints on their ability to make changes at this late hour it's difficult to say with any confidence whether "only 9" changes tells us anything about the coaches' contentment with the algorithm.
It is. I don’t have numbers, but memory says rarely were any preseeds and final seeds different.