Live updates: Big Ten wrestling preseeds release on BTN
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All B1G wins should be counted regardless of opponent whether an opponent makes the field or not. All you have the power to do as a wrestler is present yourself to wrestle. You don't get to pick your opponent. Much like stalling you shouldn't get dinged if you are presenting yourself. RPI takes care of ranking the difficulty of your opponents. If necessary, make RPI against B1G opponents only the criteria (if it isn't already), but don't double penalize someone because another coach ducked to try to protect their better wrestlers seed at that weight.
I keep rethinking this. This is what I have come up with, and only for the Big10s.
Only conference duals count.
Rank the 14 competitors based on conference wins.
If there is a tie between 2 competitors HTH results break tie.
If no HTH results, who wrestled the greatest number of conference duals.
If still tied, best record against common opponents.
If still tied, best conference record of opponents.
If a tie between 3 or more competitors, and complete round robin then HTH results. Follow the same If/then steps as above if HTH isn't relevant.
Ducking is terrible injuries suck how do you distinguish, adjust or whatever for or between the two. Not all injuries are equal so if an injured wrestler should be seeded 2 and odds are they are gonna be close to 100%, but is seeded at 9 how is that fair to any one that's the common sense you can't put into a computer and that's is ironically the reason why you need a computer, the second and third seed love it and there is merit to there argument too.I was thinking similarly this morning. Break the Big 10 portion of the criteria into three parts; H2H, conference dual win percentage, number of wins in conference duals (to penalize ducking). This component should be 70-80% of the total. Rest comprises overall competition; coaches rank, RPI, number of quality wins, and maybe conference allocation. I’ll let someone more knowledgeable assign the weighting
If all teams wrestled same schedule I think it's fair and works. However if a stud is at a lesser team he would benefit with easier competition. I'm not sure who Purdue wrestled but Blaze didn't see Penn State,or Ohio State but Calendo saw Penn State and Ohio State. That's a problem if wins are first tie breaker.
Now your potentially costing mid AA guys to be blood round or worse bit yeah there has to be some kind of back lash.
Holy ****, willie is part of it or atleast tight with who is and in his bewilderment he shared the info with youHow would I know minto is 829 and Levi 818. I'm not gonna share them sorry. Its how you guarantee yourself never seeing anything again. Imagine by now others have seen them and can share if they choose. I try to provide as much information as I can.
. Can you fly into the blue light already.I haven't talked to WillieHoly ****, willie is part of it or atleast tight with who is and in his bewilderment he shared the info with you
.That's nice I guess, but I don't have a clue what the hell you are talking about. No I don't use drugs, do you?
If they used the same program as the big 10 he probably would be the number 1 seed.
Brands said - the vote for this was 12-1-1. Northwestern voted NO to using formula and one coach abstained, every other coach voted YES.
He also said that they are only locked into this formula for one year.
He also said that they are only locked into this formula for one year.
Screw your tie, how were her breasts? Remember, photos or it didn't happen.I could tell you stories, you probably wouldn't believe. But...here's one that is relatively innocuous:
I took one of my good clients to a strip club. He was one of those rare clients who became a good friend.
Well, I got my client and I a front seat (Nothing but the best for my clients!). I made sure I brought a lot of paper currency and gave him half of it (So we both could be participatory).
So, up to this point, everything was going great...until...the stripper comes crawling towards me on her hands and knees with her mouth wide open.
My client was really into it as he was a "breast man" and his eyes were transfixed onto her large breasts bouncing in complete rhythm as she continued to crawl towards us.
When she finally came close enough that I could feel her breath on my face, she slowly reaches down towards my crouch and quickly grabs the end of my tie and starts to shove it in her mouth inch by inch.
I was royally pissed because that was a NEW $100+ (Which was expensive 25 yrs ago) Countess Mara tie I had purchased a week ago.
My client quickly grabbed my right arm because he felt certain that I was ready to punch or slap my tie from her mouth.
Now, I would never do something like that, but he said that my face got so boiling hot red, he didn't want to risk me doing something I would regret. So, better safe than sorry, right?
The ironic part to this story is that I was always the one watching over my clients and friends, not the other way around.
Thanks for triggering some old memories,
Yep, was just reading that (albeit, not as early as you, ha!)
Barring a financial stake in Wrestlestat, can't fathom the rationale for abstaining, and the NW no vote is of course interesting.
I think this week proved overthinking it causes problems.
There isn't a true round robin, but 8 out 13 is a decent sampling size. I don’t think they need to bend over backwards balancing things with half a dozen weighted factors. Weight factors need only apply with like records and no HTH.
Storniolo is a smart dude.
I don't think so, because the nature of using willie as a consultant inherently involves the human exercise of discretion and judgment. For example, he was talking about somebody's lack of an rpi for being one match short; a normal human being might think ok, there's an rpi with some probative value to it, but perhaps we just adjust it downward a bit rather than award a zero.
when they threw out these seeding why didn't they put out the points totals alongside the wrestler?
Life is good. Wife and daughter are doing great. Crazy my daughter is graduating college in the next year. Post season wrestling is one of my favorite times of year. Love it. Hope you and yours are doing well.
Am I the only one who hates to see this kind of stuff creeping into our wrestling board? I don’t remember seeing much of it on the old rivals board, but it seems to be getting more prevalent here lately.
Maybe we need a stripper/ breasts thread so I can read through threads about post season seeding without boobs in my face. Am I really the only woman on this board 
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What about these 2 boobs?Maybe we need a stripper/ breasts thread so I can read through threads about post season seeding without boobs in my face. Am I really the only woman on this board
My apologies no more pics of womenMaybe we need a stripper/ breasts thread so I can read through threads about post season seeding without boobs in my face. Am I really the only woman on this board
Did you transition to a women or were you born a woman, I just assumed there were no women on the board , guess I was wrong.Maybe we need a stripper/ breasts thread so I can read through threads about post season seeding without boobs in my face. Am I really the only woman on this board
Not sure why it matters- but I’ve been female my whole life. Hopefully, as girls and women’s wrestling grows, there will be more women on the board!
You'll never see growth in it, it's not like wrestling is anything new. For example my wife will gladly watch Penn State wrestling with me on TV. Or go call girlfriend or a relative and talk while I watched the match. She has no desire to ever attend a match, a tournament, or watch anything other than maybe the finals on TV.
She'll go to see a hockey game, maybe a football game, or a concert.
Wrestling is a real niche sport and even many lifetime Penn State alumni fans, barely watch college wrestling, even though Penn State is currently so dominant.
I saw that Tom did his pre-tourney presser, which had the usual tone and volatility one expects. You know, it's a damn shame that the Iowa wrestling press corps never had someone to be the late Larry Brooks to Tom's John Tortorella.What about these 2 boobs?
My wife loves most sports, but hates amateur wrestling. She even likes curling in the winter Olympics, but who doesn't, LOL.
Female youth wrestling is growing pretty fast.
Dont necessarily disagree but isn't this why there are mods?
Maybe we need a stripper/ breasts thread so I can read through threads about post season seeding without boobs in my face. Am I really the only woman on this board
Gotchu fam
Not totally true. Now, since PJ Duke and Cannon wouldn’t meet in the finals, and if PJ would lose that match, PJ would be wrestling for a third place as opposed to for a first or second. And, may have to wrestle an extra match or two just to get third.