It’s BIG Time - let’s have some Fun 🎉

BWFight

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It’s that time of the year when questions are answered, and dreams fulfilled (or not) for most teams.

PSU approaches things a little differently. BIGs are just another step in the process. Win or lose, each match will be viewed as an opportunity for ongoing improvement.

And just when you think the team has reached their zenith, they continue to amaze us by getting better the next year.

Historic times for PSU wrestling filled with gratitude, humility, and dominance. Let the fun begin. Who are you picking to win BIGs this year?
 

BWFight

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It’s that time of the year when questions are answered, and dreams fulfilled (or not) for most teams.

PSU approaches things a little differently. BIGs are just another step in the process. Win or lose, each match will be viewed as an opportunity for ongoing improvement.

And just when you think the team has reached their zenith, they continue to amaze us by getting better the next year.

Historic times for PSU wrestling filled with gratitude, humility, and dominance. Let the fun begin. Who are you picking to win BIGs this year?
125 - Luke
133 - Marcus
141 - Mendez (Scooter 4th)
149 - Shayne
157 - PJ
165 - Mitchell
174 - Levi
184 - Rocco
197 - Josh
227 - Cole
 

Honcho

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125 - Luke
133 - Marcus
141 - Mendez (Scooter 4th)
149 - Shayne
157 - PJ
165 - Mitchell
174 - Levi
184 - Rocco
197 - Josh
227 - Cole
bam yes GIF
 

mvattivo

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125 - Lilledahl over Bouzakis
133 - Byrd over Blaze (Reverses the result at NCAA's)
141 - Mendez over Hardy (Davis 4th)
149 - Van Ness over Young
157 - Duke over Cannon
165 - Mesenbrink over Blaze
174 - Haines over Kennedy
184 - McEnelly over Welsh
197 - Barr over McDanel
227 - Ghadiali over Feldman (Mirasola 3rd over A.J.)

Obviously, 9 out of 10 champs is not completely out of the question. I see a floor of 4 champs, a solid shot at 6+ (Same at NCAA's)
 

BaccaFarmer

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It’s that time of the year when questions are answered, and dreams fulfilled (or not) for most teams.

PSU approaches things a little differently. BIGs are just another step in the process. Win or lose, each match will be viewed as an opportunity for ongoing improvement.

And just when you think the team has reached their zenith, they continue to amaze us by getting better the next year.

Historic times for PSU wrestling filled with gratitude, humility, and dominance. Let the fun begin. Who are you picking to win BIGs this year?
Film study. This is an excellent opportunity to discombobulate future NCAA opponents in Cleveland. Trot out a new moves at the Bigs and will cause opponents in Cleveland to encounter additional confusion when checking film in their preparation. This tactic fits with Cael’s philosophy of improving and having a little fun. Accordingly, some of of our new moves might backfire resulting less than expected results in State College. Seeding be damned.
 
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RoarLions1

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While the NCAA Wrestling Championship is the top prize in college wrestling, winning the Big Ten Wrestling Championship is just as tough today, as many of the nation's top teams are in the Big Ten, and saying the B1G is the premiere conference in the country is a bit of an understatement.

Compare that to many years past when Iowa was king, and Oklahoma State, Oklahoma and Iowa State primarily were often the best of the rest nationally. None of those three teams were (obviously) in the Big Ten, and Iowa ran roughshod over the conference.

As a result, Iowa's Big Ten Wrestling Championship records are otherworldly, and likely never to be surpassed. Among them;
-- 25 consecutive Big Ten Wrestling Championships, from 1974 through 1998
-- Nine (9) champs in 1983, also a 4th Place finisher
-- Eight (8) champs in 1985, also a 2nd and a 3rd Place finisher
-- 200 Points scored in 1983, with the highest winning margin ever, 118.5 Points

There is more, but you get the picture. Today, the Big Ten Wrestling Championships result in around 80 conference wrestlers (sometimes more, sometimes less) earning qualifier spots to the NCAA Wrestling Championships, or about one-quarter of the 330 competitors at the national tourney. Those Big Ten competitors, in 2025, earned 37 All-American honors, or 46% of the 80 available AA honors.
 

Nitlion1986

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125 - Lilledahl over Bouzakis
133 - Byrd over Blaze (Reverses the result at NCAA's)
141 - Mendez over Hardy (Davis 4th)
149 - Van Ness over Young
157 - Duke over Cannon
165 - Mesenbrink over Blaze
174 - Haines over Kennedy
184 - McEnelly over Welsh
197 - Barr over McDanel
227 - Ghadiali over Feldman (Mirasola 3rd over A.J.)

Obviously, 9 out of 10 champs is not completely out of the question. I see a floor of 4 champs, a solid shot at 6+ (Same at NCAA's)
I just can't see Byrd getting a TD against Blaze and that match isn't going to SV.
 

BriantheLion

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BIGs is harder to win than Nationals. Stiffer competition in early rounds. Less room for error.
Not sure if you’re talking about individual wins or team win…

For team, we usually get behind in the first round because our best guys have byes, and can’t earn bonus points.
 
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PAgeologist

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Not sure if you’re talking about individual wins or team win…

For team, we usually get behind in the first round because our best guys have byes, and can’t earn bonus points.
Mostly talking about team titles, but obviously that trickles down to the individuals as well.
 
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While the NCAA Wrestling Championship is the top prize in college wrestling, winning the Big Ten Wrestling Championship is just as tough today, as many of the nation's top teams are in the Big Ten, and saying the B1G is the premiere conference in the country is a bit of an understatement.

Compare that to many years past when Iowa was king, and Oklahoma State, Oklahoma and Iowa State primarily were often the best of the rest nationally. None of those three teams were (obviously) in the Big Ten, and Iowa ran roughshod over the conference.

As a result, Iowa's Big Ten Wrestling Championship records are otherworldly, and likely never to be surpassed. Among them;
-- 25 consecutive Big Ten Wrestling Championships, from 1974 through 1998
-- Nine (9) champs in 1983, also a 4th Place finisher
-- Eight (8) champs in 1985, also a 2nd and a 3rd Place finisher
-- 200 Points scored in 1983, with the highest winning margin ever, 118.5 Points

There is more, but you get the picture. Today, the Big Ten Wrestling Championships result in around 80 conference wrestlers (sometimes more, sometimes less) earning qualifier spots to the NCAA Wrestling Championships, or about one-quarter of the 330 competitors at the national tourney. Those Big Ten competitors, in 2025, earned 37 All-American honors, or 46% of the 80 available AA honors.
Isn't that when Iowa had all those extra scholarships?
 

IoffendwithTruth1

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I can easily see PSU crowning 9 but also could see crowning 4 as the floor.


125: Luke dec Nick
133: Bryd dec Blaze w/Blaze getting the W when it matters two weeks later
141: Mendez MD Hardy w/Davis taking 5th
149: SVN MD Young
157: Taylor dec Duke see 133 above
165: Mess by alot...over...it doesn't matter
174: Levi dec Kharshla
184: Rocco dec Fishback w/Mac getting upset in the semis
197: Barr see 165 above
HWT: Feldman dec Ghadliali w/Cole taking 3rd
 
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GregPickel

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Does anyone recall if we get preseeds thisweek or if that is next Wednesday? Feels like a next week thing, but trying to check myself.
 
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Does anyone recall if we get preseeds thisweek or if that is next Wednesday? Feels like a next week thing, but trying to check myself.
AQ's come out this Thursday along with CR and RPI. Pre-seeds should be Wednesday of next week based on prior years, as Reslo said. Perhaps that changes this year with the new ranking system as they don't need to wait for the coaches to submit their rankings. Maybe they publish them early to give the coaches more time to weigh in on adjustments. Or, the cynic in me thinks, they may not tell us what the algorithm spits out and wait to hear from the coaches first.
 

GregPickel

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AQ's come out this Thursday along with CR and RPI. Pre-seeds should be Wednesday of next week based on prior years, as Reslo said. Perhaps that changes this year with the new ranking system as they don't need to wait for the coaches to submit their rankings. Maybe they publish them early to give the coaches more time to weigh in on adjustments. Or, the cynic in me thinks, they may not tell us what the algorithm spits out and wait to hear from the coaches first.
Your last one would fall more in line with their typical MO for sure.
 

RoarLions1

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Isn't that when Iowa had all those extra scholarships?
The only evidence I've seen is for years 1987 through 1991, and the NCAA infraction actually extended to 14 different sports at seven Big Ten institutions. Iowa alone had seven affected sports, though wrestling had the largest scholarship disparity. Then in 1993, all the schools with over-awarded scholarships had to, within a four year period, reduce scholarships by the same equivalency. By 1997, the penalty phase was over, and scholarships returned for all the impacted sports to the max equivalency allowed in the NCAA Rulebook.
 
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Thanks
The only evidence I've seen is for years 1987 through 1991, and the NCAA infraction actually extended to 14 different sports at seven Big Ten institutions. Iowa alone had seven affected sports, though wrestling had the largest scholarship disparity. Then in 1993, all the schools with over-awarded scholarships had to, within a four year period, reduce scholarships by the same equivalency. By 1997, the penalty phase was over, and scholarships returned for all the impacted sports to the max equivalency allowed in the NCAA Rulebook.
 

RBOld

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My top five most anticipated PSU matchups:
1. Welsh vs McEnelly
2. Blaze vs Byrd
3. Davis vs Hardy (what if he didn't gas?)
4. Cole vs Ford Festiva
5. Duke vs Taylor- This Time They Wrestle!

Top five non-PSU
1. Caliendo vs Blaze
2. Byrd vs Davino
3. Kennedy vs Minto
4. Taylor vs Cannon
5. Amos vs Feldman
 

Efejle

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My top five most anticipated PSU matchups:
1. Welsh vs McEnelly
2. Blaze vs Byrd
3. Davis vs Hardy (what if he didn't gas?)
4. Cole vs Ford Festiva
5. Duke vs Taylor- This Time They Wrestle!

Top five non-PSU
1. Caliendo vs Blaze
2. Byrd vs Davino
3. Kennedy vs Minto
4. Taylor vs Cannon
5. Amos vs Feldman
Pretty sure Taylor vs Cannon, or anyone of note vs Cannon, isn't happening: They will MFF out after he gets to the semi.
 
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Psalm 1 guy

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The only evidence I've seen is for years 1987 through 1991, and the NCAA infraction actually extended to 14 different sports at seven Big Ten institutions. Iowa alone had seven affected sports, though wrestling had the largest scholarship disparity. Then in 1993, all the schools with over-awarded scholarships had to, within a four year period, reduce scholarships by the same equivalency. By 1997, the penalty phase was over, and scholarships returned for all the impacted sports to the max equivalency allowed in the NCAA Rulebook.
Here is my summary of the information on this topic presented below: The Iowa wrestling program took full advantage of the Big Ten rules interpretation while Penn State didn't at all. Over the four years included in the NCAA audit Iowa exceeded the NCAA-approved scholarship limit by an average of 1.25 scholarships per year. This could have started anywhere between the late 70's to 1980. Between 1978 and 1986, Iowa's wrestling program under Gable won nine straight National titles. I have no information as to whether or not Iowa or Penn State extended the four year NCAA-mandated audit back into the 70s or 1980. No matter how you slice it, during the years Iowa exceeded the scholarship limits, they had a sizeable advantage over teams like Penn State who didn't take advantage of the rules interpretation by the Big Ten. My assumption is Penn State and the other schools who didn't grant additional scholarships didn't trust the Big Ten's interpretation and wanted to steer clear of any potential NCAA violations.

Here are some highlights from the linked article:

The NCAA has censured the Big 10 and will withhold $75,000 in grant money to the conference as penalties for a faulty league policy that allowed seven schools to hand out more scholarships than permitted in several non-revenue sports. The seven schools also will have limits placed on scholarships in the affected sports.

The problem occurred in calculating the value of scholarship money for in-state and out-of-state athletes. The Big 10 told schools they could base grants for in-state athletes on the more expensive out-of-state tuition. That made a scholarship worth more and allowed a school to divide it up among more athletes, putting them over the limit.

Northwestern, Michigan State, Ohio State and Penn State didn’t exceed scholarship restrictions and were not hit with penalties.

The powerhouse Iowa wrestling program reportedly was five scholarships over the limit during the period [four years].

The situation, dating back to the late 1970s
when Wayne Duke was commissioner, stemmed from an inaccurate interpretation of NCAA rules.

The practice went on until 1990, when it was discovered and rescinded by Delany. The NCAA asked the conference to conduct a four-year audit to determine the extent of the violations.

According to sources, the NCAA will say the conference was alerted as early as 1980 that its policy was in violation. But the Big 10 didn’t change its policy until Delany took over.

 
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PSUer89

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Here is my summary of the information on this topic presented below: The Iowa wrestling program took full advantage of the Big Ten rules interpretation while Penn State didn't at all. Over the four years included in the NCAA audit Iowa exceeded the NCAA-approved scholarship limit by an average of 1.25 scholarships per year. This could have started anywhere between the late 70's to 1980. Between 1978 and 1986, Iowa's wrestling program under Gable won nine straight National titles. I have no information as to whether or not Iowa or Penn State extended the four year NCAA-mandated audit back into the 70s or 1980. No matter how you slice it, during the years Iowa exceeded the scholarship limits, they had a sizeable advantage over teams like Penn State who didn't take advantage of the rules interpretation by the Big Ten. My assumption is Penn State and the other schools who didn't grant additional scholarships didn't trust the Big Ten's interpretation and wanted to steer clear of any potential NCAA violations.

Here are some highlights from the linked article:

The NCAA has censured the Big 10 and will withhold $75,000 in grant money to the conference as penalties for a faulty league policy that allowed seven schools to hand out more scholarships than permitted in several non-revenue sports. The seven schools also will have limits placed on scholarships in the affected sports.

The problem occurred in calculating the value of scholarship money for in-state and out-of-state athletes. The Big 10 told schools they could base grants for in-state athletes on the more expensive out-of-state tuition. That made a scholarship worth more and allowed a school to divide it up among more athletes, putting them over the limit.

Northwestern, Michigan State, Ohio State and Penn State didn’t exceed scholarship restrictions and were not hit with penalties.

The powerhouse Iowa wrestling program reportedly was five scholarships over the limit during the period [four years].

The situation, dating back to the late 1970s
when Wayne Duke was commissioner, stemmed from an inaccurate interpretation of NCAA rules.

The practice went on until 1990, when it was discovered and rescinded by Delany. The NCAA asked the conference to conduct a four-year audit to determine the extent of the violations.

According to sources, the NCAA will say the conference was alerted as early as 1980 that its policy was in violation. But the Big 10 didn’t change its policy until Delany took over.


PSU didn’t join the conference until 1993-94, so they would not have listened to the conference interpretation of the rules. It impacted PSU, and every other team that was in compliance, through the uneven “playing field”, as our friend Bob would say