Trending in the right direction with Stokes

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Once again, oxygen is our friend folks… Take a deep breath and clear your mind… Now, you are Tyran Stokes, and you’ve been watching UK play this season, you’ve watched the coaching staff, you’ve watched the pre-game preparation, you’ve watched the double digit deficits and losses, you see there’s no one of your caliber coming in with you, you know the head coach is on the hot seat, and you have one chance to get this right…

Do you go with KU and Self who is a proven Hall of Fame winner, who will surround you with other “dudes”, or, do you go with Pope who has never won a damn thing, and will surround you with Chandler, Moreno, and Garrison?

I mean, are we having a laugh at this nonsense already?
Well, I’m looking at how Oweh gets to take over games and see that I could step right into that vacant spot. That and nil being equal or better than others, I could see UK being a great choice.
 

phyrekat01

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yeah, I agree.

PG - Portal PG (needs to be above avg if not elite perimeter shooter), Lowe
SG - Chandler, Jasper
SF - Kam, Hawthorne
PF - Stokes, Mo
C - Moreno, Jelavic

Basically, if you could retain that core adding Stokes and an elite portal PG, that roster has really good potential.
This assumes that we have 8 players back from this squad. I'll eat my hat if we have more than 4 back.
 

jedwar

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This assumes that we have 8 players back from this squad. I'll eat my hat if we have more than 4 back.
It's hard to see more than 4 returning. I'd like to see 6 back but I just don't see it happening. I'll put them in order of highest chance to lowest.

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Cats_2010

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If this happens, RR will have to shut down for a few days with all the basketball experts trying to delete the 12,267 "Pope can't recruit" threads
If we have the strongest NIL package and still have yet to get a commitment from him that is an even worse reflection on pope as a coach. A commitment in the end because we paid a lot more isn’t a flex for popes recruiting efforts. Hell make me the coach for a million/year and I can recruit just as well if it just comes down to just writing a bigger check.
 
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yeah, I agree.

PG - Portal PG (needs to be above avg if not elite perimeter shooter), Lowe
SG - Chandler, Jasper
SF - Kam, Hawthorne
PF - Stokes, Mo
C - Moreno, Jelavic

Basically, if you could retain that core adding Stokes and an elite portal PG, that roster has really good potential.
That lineup has 40-0 written all over it
 

UKCowboys

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If we have the strongest NIL package and still have yet to get a commitment from him that is an even worse reflection on pope as a coach. A commitment in the end because we paid a lot more isn’t a flex for popes recruiting efforts. Hell make me the coach for a million/year and I can recruit just as well if it just comes down to just writing a bigger check.
LMAO, BBN IQ continues to plummet. Lets make you the HC lol. Post of the year
 

travisbickle

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Once again, oxygen is our friend folks… Take a deep breath and clear your mind… Now, you are Tyran Stokes, and you’ve been watching UK play this season, you’ve watched the coaching staff, you’ve watched the pre-game preparation, you’ve watched the double digit deficits and losses, you see there’s no one of your caliber coming in with you, you know the head coach is on the hot seat, and you have one chance to get this right…

Do you go with KU and Self who is a proven Hall of Fame winner, who will surround you with other “dudes”, or, do you go with Pope who has never won a damn thing, and will surround you with Chandler, Moreno, and Garrison?

I mean, are we having a laugh at this nonsense already?
I’m not disagreeing but I will say that Self has some uncertainty of his own due to his health issues this year. No idea if that factors in or not but it’s not an inconsequential piece of info.
 
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It's always been bout the money. Always has been always will be with incoming freshmen. He's going to milk it to the very last second and take the highest bidder.
 
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I’m not disagreeing but I will say that Self has some uncertainty of his own due to his health issues this year. No idea if that factors in or not but it’s not an inconsequential piece of info.
I’m a Pope guy but he has no chance of handling Stokes. Personality mismatch from hell. Bill Self has a 5 misdemeanor minimum on his rosters so I don’t think he’d be intimidated by Stokes.

That said, I’ll pay big money to watch Stokes and Pope playing chess while smoking big thick blunts on the next episode of BBN Tonight lol
 

MidseasonTweak

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I hope this is true. Not only would it be more money, he would be the guy without question and would play as many minutes as he wanted.
 
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yeah, I agree.

PG - Portal PG (needs to be above avg if not elite perimeter shooter), Lowe
SG - Chandler, Jasper
SF - Kam, Hawthorne
PF - Stokes, Mo
C - Moreno, Jelavic

Basically, if you could retain that core adding Stokes and an elite portal PG, that roster has really good potential.
I would bet a lot that Jasper is gone this offseason. Not sure if Mo or Lowe are staying to be a backup either, and if we expect them to be backups you would think their NIL offers go down. Will they stay for less money and a smaller role? Lastly, I think Pope has shown he doesn't like Jelavic at the five. It will be an interesting offseason for sure.
 

travisbickle

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I’m a Pope guy but he has no chance of handling Stokes. Personality mismatch from hell. Bill Self has a 5 misdemeanor minimum on his rosters so I don’t think he’d be intimidated by Stokes.

That said, I’ll pay big money to watch Stokes and Pope playing chess while smoking big thick blunts on the next episode of BBN Tonight lol
To be clear I was referencing Self’s health issues and not either coach’s ability to manage Stokes personality.

BTW is Stokes’ supposed attitude issue a total internet myth? I’ve never seen any actual evidence that he’s some kind of problem child but it’s 100% possible I missed something.
 

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Sounds like, as with JQ(yea, I know, blah blah blah, he aint playing right now), Stokes really, and the money is great, but he really wants to play here. Though he's originally from Louisville, I wonder if this means the family are more UK fans than UL fans.
 
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To be clear I was referencing Self’s health issues and not either coach’s ability to manage Stokes personality.

BTW is Stokes’ supposed attitude issue a total internet myth? I’ve never seen any actual evidence that he’s some kind of problem child but it’s 100% possible I missed something.
No it’s pretty widely reported, agreed upon and known. He’s a rough one. That said everyone’s situation is different, I’m a clean guy now but this was me back in the day:

Awkward Season 3 GIF by The Office
 

Cats_2010

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LMAO, BBN IQ continues to plummet. Lets make you the HC lol. Post of the year
Well I do have coaching experience and before last season had as many NCAAT wins as pope had. I would also save the university 4 million/year. Coaching is not rocket science.
 

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If this happens, RR will have to shut down for a few days with all the basketball experts trying to delete the 12,267 "Pope can't recruit" threads
Even if we do land him, one stud recruit does not make a great recruiter IMO. I’m leaning on it atleast helping the dominos begin to fall so we can be highly competitive again sooner than later. State of the program is pretty awful at the moment and I’d love to see us back at the top again.
 
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Rainmaker

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I think we need to go $4-5M for him.

This year I think we topped out in the low $2's. Which by the way makes the $22M # we keep hearing not likely, because it's safe to say we have several (Noah, Potter, Hawthorne, probably Moreno & Johnson) under $1M. I bet we are more in the $15M range.
I believe our current offer to be north of 5 million already.
 

Rainmaker

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I think OP's info is from a few days ago and was quickly debunked by the Kansas reporter.
My info is from people I know personally. Not from a tweet or a video or an article. It’s not a done deal but just to know we are back in the running and making a strong push was enough for me to at least post it. I don’t throw out unwarranted things and I usually keep to myself but when we are down like we are positive news needs to be shared.
 

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One thing that worries me is that Stokes pushes this into April and boosters and Mitch are fooled into thinking that keeping Pope will lead to his commitment, only for him to pull the rug out from us and commits elsewhere.
Pope will be back regardless
 
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jedwar

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Even if we do land him, one stud recruit does not make a great recruiter IMO. I’m leaning in it atleast helping the dominos begin to fall so we can be highly competitive again sooner than later. State of the program is pretty awful at the moment and I’d love to see us back at the top again.
I think you're spot on. It would help the perception and others will start coming imo. Maybe not in droves but it shows we are a getter.
 

Rainmaker

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You guaranteed JQ was coming back as well. Said you worked with him personally.

Are you working with Stokes personally as well?
Nope do not work with Stokes, I do however work with several power conference teams and have friends who are in the know. In JQs situation injuries aren’t black and white, **** happens and I hate it for him and for us. It’s not always something nefarious or unreported sometimes it’s just facts and people want to speculate to make it sensational when it isn’t.
 

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Give his mom and dad a special assistant job. 500k a peice on the side. Buy them a house. Didn’t my grandads UK do crap like that? Seems like growing up all I heard was UK cheats and pays players like Alabama football. When did we get away from winning no matter what? I’m halfway joking and halfway serious.
 
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