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OldMatCoach

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Penn State Wrestling Predicted Finishes at 2026 Big Ten Championships


The 2026 Big Ten Wrestling Championships are scheduled for early March, and predictions are based on the team’s performance through mid-February 2026. Penn State has dominated the regular season, finishing 14-0 overall and 8-0 in conference duals, including decisive wins over top rivals like Ohio State (36-5), Michigan (38-3), and Nebraska (26-12). The Nittany Lions have seven unbeaten wrestlers and multiple national No. 1 rankings per the latest InterMat update (as of February 17, 2026). Predictions factor in season records, national rankings, head-to-head results (e.g., from the Ohio State dual), conference depth, and projected seeds from wrestling forums and analysts. Big Ten seeding criteria emphasize conference records, head-to-head matchups, and quality wins, so top seeds often correlate with strong finishes—but upsets happen in this stacked conference.


Here’s a weight-by-weight breakdown of Penn State’s projected starters (based on recent duals like the Ohio State matchup) and their predicted placements:


• 125 lbs: Luke Lilledahl (Sophomore, 16-0 record, National No. 1)
Lilledahl has been flawless, with key wins like a 4-1 sudden victory over Ohio State’s No. 2 Nic Bouzakis. He’s the projected No. 1 seed in the Big Ten, ahead of Bouzakis, Iowa’s Dean Peterson, and Minnesota’s Jore Volk. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s the clear favorite in a weight where Penn State has historically excelled.


• 133 lbs: Marcus Blaze (Freshman, 18-0 record, National No. 2)
Blaze has impressed in his debut season, including a tight 3-2 tiebreaker win over Ohio State’s No. 5 Ben Davino. However, Illinois’ Lucas Byrd holds the national No. 1 spot and has a strong conference resume, positioning him as the likely top seed. Blaze is projected as the No. 2 seed. Predicted finish: 2nd. He could challenge for the title if he draws Byrd in the finals, but Byrd’s experience gives him the edge.


• 141 lbs: Braeden Davis (Junior, 8-3 record, National No. 12)
Davis has solid wins but struggled against elite competition, like a tech fall loss to Ohio State’s No. 1 Jesse Mendez. The Big Ten is loaded here with Mendez (OSU), Real Woods or successor at Iowa, Nebraska’s Brock Hardy (national top 5), and Rutgers’ Michael Olivieri. Davis is likely a mid-tier seed (5th-7th). Predicted finish: 6th. He should qualify for NCAAs but may need the consolation bracket for a podium spot.


• 149 lbs: Shayne Van Ness (Junior, 17-0 record, National No. 1)
Van Ness has been dominant, tech-falling opponents like Ohio State’s Brogan Fielding. He’s the unquestioned top seed in the Big Ten, ahead of challengers like Michigan’s Sergio Lemley or Iowa’s Victor Voinovich. Predicted finish: 1st. His explosiveness and undefeated streak make him a lock for the title.


• 157 lbs: PJ Duke (Freshman, 14-1 record, National No. 3)
Duke has only one loss and pinned Ohio State’s Daxton Chase. The weight features tough Big Ten foes like Michigan’s Will Lewan or Illinois’ Kannon Webster (potential No. 1-2 seeds), but Duke’s youth and talent could shine. Projected as the No. 3 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. He has the tools to reach the finals but may settle for bronze in a competitive bracket.


• 165 lbs: Mitchell Mesenbrink (Junior, 15-0 record, National No. 1)
Mesenbrink has been unstoppable, major-decisioning Ohio State’s Paddy Gallagher. He’s the top seed by a wide margin over Michigan’s Cameron Amine, Iowa’s Michael Caliendo, or others. Predicted finish: 1st. This weight plays to his aggressive style, and he’s favored heavily.


• 174 lbs: Levi Haines (Senior, 13-0 record, National No. 1)
Haines tech-falled Ohio State’s PJ Schierl and remains unbeaten. As the projected No. 1 seed, he’s ahead of Ohio State’s Rocco Kharchla, Nebraska’s Antrell Taylor, or Michigan’s Shane Kennedy. Predicted finish: 1st. His consistency and senior leadership make him the frontrunner.


• 184 lbs: Rocco Welsh (Sophomore, 12-2 record, National No. 1)
Welsh edged Ohio State’s Dylan Fishback 7-6 and holds the national top spot despite two close losses early in the season. He’s the likely No. 1 seed over Minnesota’s Isaiah Salazar or Iowa’s Aiden McEnelly. Predicted finish: 1st. His recent form suggests he’ll defend his ranking.


• 197 lbs: Josh Barr (Sophomore, 11-1 record, National No. 1)
Barr majored Ohio State’s Luke Geog and has just one loss. As the top seed, he leads over Rutgers’ John Poznanski, Iowa’s Stephen Buchanan, or Michigan’s Jaden Bullock. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s in prime position for a conference crown.


• 285 lbs (HWT): Cole Mirasola (Freshman, 13-4 record, National No. 6)
Mirasola has surged with a 4-1 sudden victory upset over Ohio State’s No. 3 Nick Feldman, boosting his ranking. The Big Ten heavies include Feldman (likely No. 1 seed), Michigan’s Lucas Davison, or Rutgers’ Yurii Klinski. Mirasola projects as a No. 3-4 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. His momentum could push him to the podium, but the top heavies are battle-tested.


Overall, Penn State is projected to win the team title convincingly, potentially with 6-7 individual champions and all 10 wrestlers on the podium. This aligns with their regular-season dominance and national rankings (six at No. 1). Key variables include bracket draws, injury avoidance, and performance under tournament pressure. Sources include InterMat rankings , FloWrestling Big Ten previews , WrestleStat records , and seeding discussions from InterMat forums .
 

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Penn State Wrestling Predicted Finishes at 2026 Big Ten Championships


The 2026 Big Ten Wrestling Championships are scheduled for early March, and predictions are based on the team’s performance through mid-February 2026. Penn State has dominated the regular season, finishing 14-0 overall and 8-0 in conference duals, including decisive wins over top rivals like Ohio State (36-5), Michigan (38-3), and Nebraska (26-12). The Nittany Lions have seven unbeaten wrestlers and multiple national No. 1 rankings per the latest InterMat update (as of February 17, 2026). Predictions factor in season records, national rankings, head-to-head results (e.g., from the Ohio State dual), conference depth, and projected seeds from wrestling forums and analysts. Big Ten seeding criteria emphasize conference records, head-to-head matchups, and quality wins, so top seeds often correlate with strong finishes—but upsets happen in this stacked conference.


Here’s a weight-by-weight breakdown of Penn State’s projected starters (based on recent duals like the Ohio State matchup) and their predicted placements:


• 125 lbs: Luke Lilledahl (Sophomore, 16-0 record, National No. 1)
Lilledahl has been flawless, with key wins like a 4-1 sudden victory over Ohio State’s No. 2 Nic Bouzakis. He’s the projected No. 1 seed in the Big Ten, ahead of Bouzakis, Iowa’s Dean Peterson, and Minnesota’s Jore Volk. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s the clear favorite in a weight where Penn State has historically excelled.


• 133 lbs: Marcus Blaze (Freshman, 18-0 record, National No. 2)
Blaze has impressed in his debut season, including a tight 3-2 tiebreaker win over Ohio State’s No. 5 Ben Davino. However, Illinois’ Lucas Byrd holds the national No. 1 spot and has a strong conference resume, positioning him as the likely top seed. Blaze is projected as the No. 2 seed. Predicted finish: 2nd. He could challenge for the title if he draws Byrd in the finals, but Byrd’s experience gives him the edge.


• 141 lbs: Braeden Davis (Junior, 8-3 record, National No. 12)
Davis has solid wins but struggled against elite competition, like a tech fall loss to Ohio State’s No. 1 Jesse Mendez. The Big Ten is loaded here with Mendez (OSU), Real Woods or successor at Iowa, Nebraska’s Brock Hardy (national top 5), and Rutgers’ Michael Olivieri. Davis is likely a mid-tier seed (5th-7th). Predicted finish: 6th. He should qualify for NCAAs but may need the consolation bracket for a podium spot.


• 149 lbs: Shayne Van Ness (Junior, 17-0 record, National No. 1)
Van Ness has been dominant, tech-falling opponents like Ohio State’s Brogan Fielding. He’s the unquestioned top seed in the Big Ten, ahead of challengers like Michigan’s Sergio Lemley or Iowa’s Victor Voinovich. Predicted finish: 1st. His explosiveness and undefeated streak make him a lock for the title.


• 157 lbs: PJ Duke (Freshman, 14-1 record, National No. 3)
Duke has only one loss and pinned Ohio State’s Daxton Chase. The weight features tough Big Ten foes like Michigan’s Will Lewan or Illinois’ Kannon Webster (potential No. 1-2 seeds), but Duke’s youth and talent could shine. Projected as the No. 3 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. He has the tools to reach the finals but may settle for bronze in a competitive bracket.


• 165 lbs: Mitchell Mesenbrink (Junior, 15-0 record, National No. 1)
Mesenbrink has been unstoppable, major-decisioning Ohio State’s Paddy Gallagher. He’s the top seed by a wide margin over Michigan’s Cameron Amine, Iowa’s Michael Caliendo, or others. Predicted finish: 1st. This weight plays to his aggressive style, and he’s favored heavily.


• 174 lbs: Levi Haines (Senior, 13-0 record, National No. 1)
Haines tech-falled Ohio State’s PJ Schierl and remains unbeaten. As the projected No. 1 seed, he’s ahead of Ohio State’s Rocco Kharchla, Nebraska’s Antrell Taylor, or Michigan’s Shane Kennedy. Predicted finish: 1st. His consistency and senior leadership make him the frontrunner.


• 184 lbs: Rocco Welsh (Sophomore, 12-2 record, National No. 1)
Welsh edged Ohio State’s Dylan Fishback 7-6 and holds the national top spot despite two close losses early in the season. He’s the likely No. 1 seed over Minnesota’s Isaiah Salazar or Iowa’s Aiden McEnelly. Predicted finish: 1st. His recent form suggests he’ll defend his ranking.


• 197 lbs: Josh Barr (Sophomore, 11-1 record, National No. 1)
Barr majored Ohio State’s Luke Geog and has just one loss. As the top seed, he leads over Rutgers’ John Poznanski, Iowa’s Stephen Buchanan, or Michigan’s Jaden Bullock. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s in prime position for a conference crown.


• 285 lbs (HWT): Cole Mirasola (Freshman, 13-4 record, National No. 6)
Mirasola has surged with a 4-1 sudden victory upset over Ohio State’s No. 3 Nick Feldman, boosting his ranking. The Big Ten heavies include Feldman (likely No. 1 seed), Michigan’s Lucas Davison, or Rutgers’ Yurii Klinski. Mirasola projects as a No. 3-4 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. His momentum could push him to the podium, but the top heavies are battle-tested.


Overall, Penn State is projected to win the team title convincingly, potentially with 6-7 individual champions and all 10 wrestlers on the podium. This aligns with their regular-season dominance and national rankings (six at No. 1). Key variables include bracket draws, injury avoidance, and performance under tournament pressure. Sources include InterMat rankings , FloWrestling Big Ten previews , WrestleStat records , and seeding discussions from InterMat forums .
Barr hasn’t lost yet (that I am aware of). And McEnelly is fron Minn, not Iowa
 

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Penn State Wrestling Predicted Finishes at 2026 Big Ten Championships


The 2026 Big Ten Wrestling Championships are scheduled for early March, and predictions are based on the team’s performance through mid-February 2026. Penn State has dominated the regular season, finishing 14-0 overall and 8-0 in conference duals, including decisive wins over top rivals like Ohio State (36-5), Michigan (38-3), and Nebraska (26-12). The Nittany Lions have seven unbeaten wrestlers and multiple national No. 1 rankings per the latest InterMat update (as of February 17, 2026). Predictions factor in season records, national rankings, head-to-head results (e.g., from the Ohio State dual), conference depth, and projected seeds from wrestling forums and analysts. Big Ten seeding criteria emphasize conference records, head-to-head matchups, and quality wins, so top seeds often correlate with strong finishes—but upsets happen in this stacked conference.


Here’s a weight-by-weight breakdown of Penn State’s projected starters (based on recent duals like the Ohio State matchup) and their predicted placements:


• 125 lbs: Luke Lilledahl (Sophomore, 16-0 record, National No. 1)
Lilledahl has been flawless, with key wins like a 4-1 sudden victory over Ohio State’s No. 2 Nic Bouzakis. He’s the projected No. 1 seed in the Big Ten, ahead of Bouzakis, Iowa’s Dean Peterson, and Minnesota’s Jore Volk. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s the clear favorite in a weight where Penn State has historically excelled.


• 133 lbs: Marcus Blaze (Freshman, 18-0 record, National No. 2)
Blaze has impressed in his debut season, including a tight 3-2 tiebreaker win over Ohio State’s No. 5 Ben Davino. However, Illinois’ Lucas Byrd holds the national No. 1 spot and has a strong conference resume, positioning him as the likely top seed. Blaze is projected as the No. 2 seed. Predicted finish: 2nd. He could challenge for the title if he draws Byrd in the finals, but Byrd’s experience gives him the edge.


• 141 lbs: Braeden Davis (Junior, 8-3 record, National No. 12)
Davis has solid wins but struggled against elite competition, like a tech fall loss to Ohio State’s No. 1 Jesse Mendez. The Big Ten is loaded here with Mendez (OSU), Real Woods or successor at Iowa, Nebraska’s Brock Hardy (national top 5), and Rutgers’ Michael Olivieri. Davis is likely a mid-tier seed (5th-7th). Predicted finish: 6th. He should qualify for NCAAs but may need the consolation bracket for a podium spot.


• 149 lbs: Shayne Van Ness (Junior, 17-0 record, National No. 1)
Van Ness has been dominant, tech-falling opponents like Ohio State’s Brogan Fielding. He’s the unquestioned top seed in the Big Ten, ahead of challengers like Michigan’s Sergio Lemley or Iowa’s Victor Voinovich. Predicted finish: 1st. His explosiveness and undefeated streak make him a lock for the title.


• 157 lbs: PJ Duke (Freshman, 14-1 record, National No. 3)
Duke has only one loss and pinned Ohio State’s Daxton Chase. The weight features tough Big Ten foes like Michigan’s Will Lewan or Illinois’ Kannon Webster (potential No. 1-2 seeds), but Duke’s youth and talent could shine. Projected as the No. 3 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. He has the tools to reach the finals but may settle for bronze in a competitive bracket.


• 165 lbs: Mitchell Mesenbrink (Junior, 15-0 record, National No. 1)
Mesenbrink has been unstoppable, major-decisioning Ohio State’s Paddy Gallagher. He’s the top seed by a wide margin over Michigan’s Cameron Amine, Iowa’s Michael Caliendo, or others. Predicted finish: 1st. This weight plays to his aggressive style, and he’s favored heavily.


• 174 lbs: Levi Haines (Senior, 13-0 record, National No. 1)
Haines tech-falled Ohio State’s PJ Schierl and remains unbeaten. As the projected No. 1 seed, he’s ahead of Ohio State’s Rocco Kharchla, Nebraska’s Antrell Taylor, or Michigan’s Shane Kennedy. Predicted finish: 1st. His consistency and senior leadership make him the frontrunner.


• 184 lbs: Rocco Welsh (Sophomore, 12-2 record, National No. 1)
Welsh edged Ohio State’s Dylan Fishback 7-6 and holds the national top spot despite two close losses early in the season. He’s the likely No. 1 seed over Minnesota’s Isaiah Salazar or Iowa’s Aiden McEnelly. Predicted finish: 1st. His recent form suggests he’ll defend his ranking.


• 197 lbs: Josh Barr (Sophomore, 11-1 record, National No. 1)
Barr majored Ohio State’s Luke Geog and has just one loss. As the top seed, he leads over Rutgers’ John Poznanski, Iowa’s Stephen Buchanan, or Michigan’s Jaden Bullock. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s in prime position for a conference crown.


• 285 lbs (HWT): Cole Mirasola (Freshman, 13-4 record, National No. 6)
Mirasola has surged with a 4-1 sudden victory upset over Ohio State’s No. 3 Nick Feldman, boosting his ranking. The Big Ten heavies include Feldman (likely No. 1 seed), Michigan’s Lucas Davison, or Rutgers’ Yurii Klinski. Mirasola projects as a No. 3-4 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. His momentum could push him to the podium, but the top heavies are battle-tested.


Overall, Penn State is projected to win the team title convincingly, potentially with 6-7 individual champions and all 10 wrestlers on the podium. This aligns with their regular-season dominance and national rankings (six at No. 1). Key variables include bracket draws, injury avoidance, and performance under tournament pressure. Sources include InterMat rankings , FloWrestling Big Ten previews , WrestleStat records , and seeding discussions from InterMat forums .
WTF wrote that?
Or better, which dumbasssssed AI put that together?
 

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The 2026 Big Ten Wrestling Championships are scheduled for early March, and predictions are based on the team’s performance through mid-February 2026. Penn State has dominated the regular season, finishing 14-0 overall and 8-0 in conference duals, including decisive wins over top rivals like Ohio State (36-5), Michigan (38-3), and Nebraska (26-12). The Nittany Lions have seven unbeaten wrestlers and multiple national No. 1 rankings per the latest InterMat update (as of February 17, 2026). Predictions factor in season records, national rankings, head-to-head results (e.g., from the Ohio State dual), conference depth, and projected seeds from wrestling forums and analysts. Big Ten seeding criteria emphasize conference records, head-to-head matchups, and quality wins, so top seeds often correlate with strong finishes—but upsets happen in this stacked conference.


Here’s a weight-by-weight breakdown of Penn State’s projected starters (based on recent duals like the Ohio State matchup) and their predicted placements:


• 125 lbs: Luke Lilledahl (Sophomore, 16-0 record, National No. 1)
Lilledahl has been flawless, with key wins like a 4-1 sudden victory over Ohio State’s No. 2 Nic Bouzakis. He’s the projected No. 1 seed in the Big Ten, ahead of Bouzakis, Iowa’s Dean Peterson, and Minnesota’s Jore Volk. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s the clear favorite in a weight where Penn State has historically excelled.


• 133 lbs: Marcus Blaze (Freshman, 18-0 record, National No. 2)
Blaze has impressed in his debut season, including a tight 3-2 tiebreaker win over Ohio State’s No. 5 Ben Davino. However, Illinois’ Lucas Byrd holds the national No. 1 spot and has a strong conference resume, positioning him as the likely top seed. Blaze is projected as the No. 2 seed. Predicted finish: 2nd. He could challenge for the title if he draws Byrd in the finals, but Byrd’s experience gives him the edge.


• 141 lbs: Braeden Davis (Junior, 8-3 record, National No. 12)
Davis has solid wins but struggled against elite competition, like a tech fall loss to Ohio State’s No. 1 Jesse Mendez. The Big Ten is loaded here with Mendez (OSU), Real Woods or successor at Iowa, Nebraska’s Brock Hardy (national top 5), and Rutgers’ Michael Olivieri. Davis is likely a mid-tier seed (5th-7th). Predicted finish: 6th. He should qualify for NCAAs but may need the consolation bracket for a podium spot.


• 149 lbs: Shayne Van Ness (Junior, 17-0 record, National No. 1)
Van Ness has been dominant, tech-falling opponents like Ohio State’s Brogan Fielding. He’s the unquestioned top seed in the Big Ten, ahead of challengers like Michigan’s Sergio Lemley or Iowa’s Victor Voinovich. Predicted finish: 1st. His explosiveness and undefeated streak make him a lock for the title.


• 157 lbs: PJ Duke (Freshman, 14-1 record, National No. 3)
Duke has only one loss and pinned Ohio State’s Daxton Chase. The weight features tough Big Ten foes like Michigan’s Will Lewan or Illinois’ Kannon Webster (potential No. 1-2 seeds), but Duke’s youth and talent could shine. Projected as the No. 3 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. He has the tools to reach the finals but may settle for bronze in a competitive bracket.


• 165 lbs: Mitchell Mesenbrink (Junior, 15-0 record, National No. 1)
Mesenbrink has been unstoppable, major-decisioning Ohio State’s Paddy Gallagher. He’s the top seed by a wide margin over Michigan’s Cameron Amine, Iowa’s Michael Caliendo, or others. Predicted finish: 1st. This weight plays to his aggressive style, and he’s favored heavily.


• 174 lbs: Levi Haines (Senior, 13-0 record, National No. 1)
Haines tech-falled Ohio State’s PJ Schierl and remains unbeaten. As the projected No. 1 seed, he’s ahead of Ohio State’s Rocco Kharchla, Nebraska’s Antrell Taylor, or Michigan’s Shane Kennedy. Predicted finish: 1st. His consistency and senior leadership make him the frontrunner.


• 184 lbs: Rocco Welsh (Sophomore, 12-2 record, National No. 1)
Welsh edged Ohio State’s Dylan Fishback 7-6 and holds the national top spot despite two close losses early in the season. He’s the likely No. 1 seed over Minnesota’s Isaiah Salazar or Iowa’s Aiden McEnelly. Predicted finish: 1st. His recent form suggests he’ll defend his ranking.


• 197 lbs: Josh Barr (Sophomore, 11-1 record, National No. 1)
Barr majored Ohio State’s Luke Geog and has just one loss. As the top seed, he leads over Rutgers’ John Poznanski, Iowa’s Stephen Buchanan, or Michigan’s Jaden Bullock. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s in prime position for a conference crown.


• 285 lbs (HWT): Cole Mirasola (Freshman, 13-4 record, National No. 6)
Mirasola has surged with a 4-1 sudden victory upset over Ohio State’s No. 3 Nick Feldman, boosting his ranking. The Big Ten heavies include Feldman (likely No. 1 seed), Michigan’s Lucas Davison, or Rutgers’ Yurii Klinski. Mirasola projects as a No. 3-4 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. His momentum could push him to the podium, but the top heavies are battle-tested.


Overall, Penn State is projected to win the team title convincingly, potentially with 6-7 individual champions and all 10 wrestlers on the podium. This aligns with their regular-season dominance and national rankings (six at No. 1). Key variables include bracket draws, injury avoidance, and performance under tournament pressure. Sources include InterMat rankings , FloWrestling Big Ten previews , WrestleStat records , and seeding discussions from InterMat forums .
Alumni tournament?
 

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Exactly why I posted it ... seeding and rankings are all done by computer now days and this is what can happen. Numerous mistakes, etc. Heck, chat GPT still had "Kerkliver" as the heavyweight starter this year. Some believe the computer removes bias but it actually trades it for inaccuracy.
 

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Penn State Wrestling Predicted Finishes at 2026 Big Ten Championships


The 2026 Big Ten Wrestling Championships are scheduled for early March, and predictions are based on the team’s performance through mid-February 2026. Penn State has dominated the regular season, finishing 14-0 overall and 8-0 in conference duals, including decisive wins over top rivals like Ohio State (36-5), Michigan (38-3), and Nebraska (26-12). The Nittany Lions have seven unbeaten wrestlers and multiple national No. 1 rankings per the latest InterMat update (as of February 17, 2026). Predictions factor in season records, national rankings, head-to-head results (e.g., from the Ohio State dual), conference depth, and projected seeds from wrestling forums and analysts. Big Ten seeding criteria emphasize conference records, head-to-head matchups, and quality wins, so top seeds often correlate with strong finishes—but upsets happen in this stacked conference.


Here’s a weight-by-weight breakdown of Penn State’s projected starters (based on recent duals like the Ohio State matchup) and their predicted placements:


• 125 lbs: Luke Lilledahl (Sophomore, 16-0 record, National No. 1)
Lilledahl has been flawless, with key wins like a 4-1 sudden victory over Ohio State’s No. 2 Nic Bouzakis. He’s the projected No. 1 seed in the Big Ten, ahead of Bouzakis, Iowa’s Dean Peterson, and Minnesota’s Jore Volk. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s the clear favorite in a weight where Penn State has historically excelled.


• 133 lbs: Marcus Blaze (Freshman, 18-0 record, National No. 2)
Blaze has impressed in his debut season, including a tight 3-2 tiebreaker win over Ohio State’s No. 5 Ben Davino. However, Illinois’ Lucas Byrd holds the national No. 1 spot and has a strong conference resume, positioning him as the likely top seed. Blaze is projected as the No. 2 seed. Predicted finish: 2nd. He could challenge for the title if he draws Byrd in the finals, but Byrd’s experience gives him the edge.


• 141 lbs: Braeden Davis (Junior, 8-3 record, National No. 12)
Davis has solid wins but struggled against elite competition, like a tech fall loss to Ohio State’s No. 1 Jesse Mendez. The Big Ten is loaded here with Mendez (OSU), Real Woods or successor at Iowa, Nebraska’s Brock Hardy (national top 5), and Rutgers’ Michael Olivieri. Davis is likely a mid-tier seed (5th-7th). Predicted finish: 6th. He should qualify for NCAAs but may need the consolation bracket for a podium spot.


• 149 lbs: Shayne Van Ness (Junior, 17-0 record, National No. 1)
Van Ness has been dominant, tech-falling opponents like Ohio State’s Brogan Fielding. He’s the unquestioned top seed in the Big Ten, ahead of challengers like Michigan’s Sergio Lemley or Iowa’s Victor Voinovich. Predicted finish: 1st. His explosiveness and undefeated streak make him a lock for the title.


• 157 lbs: PJ Duke (Freshman, 14-1 record, National No. 3)
Duke has only one loss and pinned Ohio State’s Daxton Chase. The weight features tough Big Ten foes like Michigan’s Will Lewan or Illinois’ Kannon Webster (potential No. 1-2 seeds), but Duke’s youth and talent could shine. Projected as the No. 3 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. He has the tools to reach the finals but may settle for bronze in a competitive bracket.


• 165 lbs: Mitchell Mesenbrink (Junior, 15-0 record, National No. 1)
Mesenbrink has been unstoppable, major-decisioning Ohio State’s Paddy Gallagher. He’s the top seed by a wide margin over Michigan’s Cameron Amine, Iowa’s Michael Caliendo, or others. Predicted finish: 1st. This weight plays to his aggressive style, and he’s favored heavily.


• 174 lbs: Levi Haines (Senior, 13-0 record, National No. 1)
Haines tech-falled Ohio State’s PJ Schierl and remains unbeaten. As the projected No. 1 seed, he’s ahead of Ohio State’s Rocco Kharchla, Nebraska’s Antrell Taylor, or Michigan’s Shane Kennedy. Predicted finish: 1st. His consistency and senior leadership make him the frontrunner.


• 184 lbs: Rocco Welsh (Sophomore, 12-2 record, National No. 1)
Welsh edged Ohio State’s Dylan Fishback 7-6 and holds the national top spot despite two close losses early in the season. He’s the likely No. 1 seed over Minnesota’s Isaiah Salazar or Iowa’s Aiden McEnelly. Predicted finish: 1st. His recent form suggests he’ll defend his ranking.


• 197 lbs: Josh Barr (Sophomore, 11-1 record, National No. 1)
Barr majored Ohio State’s Luke Geog and has just one loss. As the top seed, he leads over Rutgers’ John Poznanski, Iowa’s Stephen Buchanan, or Michigan’s Jaden Bullock. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s in prime position for a conference crown.


• 285 lbs (HWT): Cole Mirasola (Freshman, 13-4 record, National No. 6)
Mirasola has surged with a 4-1 sudden victory upset over Ohio State’s No. 3 Nick Feldman, boosting his ranking. The Big Ten heavies include Feldman (likely No. 1 seed), Michigan’s Lucas Davison, or Rutgers’ Yurii Klinski. Mirasola projects as a No. 3-4 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. His momentum could push him to the podium, but the top heavies are battle-tested.


Overall, Penn State is projected to win the team title convincingly, potentially with 6-7 individual champions and all 10 wrestlers on the podium. This aligns with their regular-season dominance and national rankings (six at No. 1). Key variables include bracket draws, injury avoidance, and performance under tournament pressure. Sources include InterMat rankings , FloWrestling Big Ten previews , WrestleStat records , and seeding discussions from InterMat forums .
As is often the case, AI digs around for data and dredges up a bit of “dated info”. It’s not 2025 anymore.
 
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Exactly why I posted it ... seeding and rankings are all done by computer now days and this is what can happen. Numerous mistakes, etc. Heck, chat GPT still had "Kerkliver" as the heavyweight starter this year. Some believe the computer removes bias but it actually trades it for inaccuracy.
I'm glad you cleared that up.
 

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I thought it was strange how they mixed in wrestlers no longer eligible but included many freshman. It makes one wonder how accurate things like RPI really are. I saw an ESPN piece ranking hoops teams by AI, and was inspired to try it with the BIG10. Interesting and so what scary at the same time because many casual fan type folks would just read that and think "well AI did it,it must be true!"
 

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Question Mark What GIF by MOODMAN
 

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The 2026 Big Ten Wrestling Championships are scheduled for early March, and predictions are based on the team’s performance through mid-February 2026. Penn State has dominated the regular season, finishing 14-0 overall and 8-0 in conference duals, including decisive wins over top rivals like Ohio State (36-5), Michigan (38-3), and Nebraska (26-12). The Nittany Lions have seven unbeaten wrestlers and multiple national No. 1 rankings per the latest InterMat update (as of February 17, 2026). Predictions factor in season records, national rankings, head-to-head results (e.g., from the Ohio State dual), conference depth, and projected seeds from wrestling forums and analysts. Big Ten seeding criteria emphasize conference records, head-to-head matchups, and quality wins, so top seeds often correlate with strong finishes—but upsets happen in this stacked conference.


Here’s a weight-by-weight breakdown of Penn State’s projected starters (based on recent duals like the Ohio State matchup) and their predicted placements:


• 125 lbs: Luke Lilledahl (Sophomore, 16-0 record, National No. 1)
Lilledahl has been flawless, with key wins like a 4-1 sudden victory over Ohio State’s No. 2 Nic Bouzakis. He’s the projected No. 1 seed in the Big Ten, ahead of Bouzakis, Iowa’s Dean Peterson, and Minnesota’s Jore Volk. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s the clear favorite in a weight where Penn State has historically excelled.


• 133 lbs: Marcus Blaze (Freshman, 18-0 record, National No. 2)
Blaze has impressed in his debut season, including a tight 3-2 tiebreaker win over Ohio State’s No. 5 Ben Davino. However, Illinois’ Lucas Byrd holds the national No. 1 spot and has a strong conference resume, positioning him as the likely top seed. Blaze is projected as the No. 2 seed. Predicted finish: 2nd. He could challenge for the title if he draws Byrd in the finals, but Byrd’s experience gives him the edge.


• 141 lbs: Braeden Davis (Junior, 8-3 record, National No. 12)
Davis has solid wins but struggled against elite competition, like a tech fall loss to Ohio State’s No. 1 Jesse Mendez. The Big Ten is loaded here with Mendez (OSU), Real Woods or successor at Iowa, Nebraska’s Brock Hardy (national top 5), and Rutgers’ Michael Olivieri. Davis is likely a mid-tier seed (5th-7th). Predicted finish: 6th. He should qualify for NCAAs but may need the consolation bracket for a podium spot.


• 149 lbs: Shayne Van Ness (Junior, 17-0 record, National No. 1)
Van Ness has been dominant, tech-falling opponents like Ohio State’s Brogan Fielding. He’s the unquestioned top seed in the Big Ten, ahead of challengers like Michigan’s Sergio Lemley or Iowa’s Victor Voinovich. Predicted finish: 1st. His explosiveness and undefeated streak make him a lock for the title.


• 157 lbs: PJ Duke (Freshman, 14-1 record, National No. 3)
Duke has only one loss and pinned Ohio State’s Daxton Chase. The weight features tough Big Ten foes like Michigan’s Will Lewan or Illinois’ Kannon Webster (potential No. 1-2 seeds), but Duke’s youth and talent could shine. Projected as the No. 3 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. He has the tools to reach the finals but may settle for bronze in a competitive bracket.


• 165 lbs: Mitchell Mesenbrink (Junior, 15-0 record, National No. 1)
Mesenbrink has been unstoppable, major-decisioning Ohio State’s Paddy Gallagher. He’s the top seed by a wide margin over Michigan’s Cameron Amine, Iowa’s Michael Caliendo, or others. Predicted finish: 1st. This weight plays to his aggressive style, and he’s favored heavily.


• 174 lbs: Levi Haines (Senior, 13-0 record, National No. 1)
Haines tech-falled Ohio State’s PJ Schierl and remains unbeaten. As the projected No. 1 seed, he’s ahead of Ohio State’s Rocco Kharchla, Nebraska’s Antrell Taylor, or Michigan’s Shane Kennedy. Predicted finish: 1st. His consistency and senior leadership make him the frontrunner.


• 184 lbs: Rocco Welsh (Sophomore, 12-2 record, National No. 1)
Welsh edged Ohio State’s Dylan Fishback 7-6 and holds the national top spot despite two close losses early in the season. He’s the likely No. 1 seed over Minnesota’s Isaiah Salazar or Iowa’s Aiden McEnelly. Predicted finish: 1st. His recent form suggests he’ll defend his ranking.


• 197 lbs: Josh Barr (Sophomore, 11-1 record, National No. 1)
Barr majored Ohio State’s Luke Geog and has just one loss. As the top seed, he leads over Rutgers’ John Poznanski, Iowa’s Stephen Buchanan, or Michigan’s Jaden Bullock. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s in prime position for a conference crown.


• 285 lbs (HWT): Cole Mirasola (Freshman, 13-4 record, National No. 6)
Mirasola has surged with a 4-1 sudden victory upset over Ohio State’s No. 3 Nick Feldman, boosting his ranking. The Big Ten heavies include Feldman (likely No. 1 seed), Michigan’s Lucas Davison, or Rutgers’ Yurii Klinski. Mirasola projects as a No. 3-4 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. His momentum could push him to the podium, but the top heavies are battle-tested.


Overall, Penn State is projected to win the team title convincingly, potentially with 6-7 individual champions and all 10 wrestlers on the podium. This aligns with their regular-season dominance and national rankings (six at No. 1). Key variables include bracket draws, injury avoidance, and performance under tournament pressure. Sources include InterMat rankings , FloWrestling Big Ten previews , WrestleStat records , and seeding discussions from InterMat forums .
🤣🤣 this was awesome. I'm glad someone showcased why they should not Google AI an answer or use AI in general. Not now anyways. Give it a few years.
 
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Yep, Grok (my preferred BTW), sees and considers every one of my dumbest posts along with everyone else's. I have been known to cause hallucinations in humans. Tripping up a LLM is child's play.
 
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And AI wants to start up our Skynet to make Terminators for us.... If they are this accurate they will be easy to defeat!
 

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The Big Ten is loaded here with Mendez (OSU), Real Woods.
The weight features tough Big Ten foes like Michigan’s Will Lewan.
Iowa’s Aiden McEnelly.
he leads over Rutgers’ John Poznanski, Iowa’s Stephen Buchanan, or Michigan’s Jaden Bullock
Michigan’s Lucas Davison

Seriously?? No one on Earth can beat the best chess computers, but Ai can't outperform the "Fist to the Back" Guy. :)
 

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The 2026 Big Ten Wrestling Championships are scheduled for early March, and predictions are based on the team’s performance through mid-February 2026. Penn State has dominated the regular season, finishing 14-0 overall and 8-0 in conference duals, including decisive wins over top rivals like Ohio State (36-5), Michigan (38-3), and Nebraska (26-12). The Nittany Lions have seven unbeaten wrestlers and multiple national No. 1 rankings per the latest InterMat update (as of February 17, 2026). Predictions factor in season records, national rankings, head-to-head results (e.g., from the Ohio State dual), conference depth, and projected seeds from wrestling forums and analysts. Big Ten seeding criteria emphasize conference records, head-to-head matchups, and quality wins, so top seeds often correlate with strong finishes—but upsets happen in this stacked conference.


Here’s a weight-by-weight breakdown of Penn State’s projected starters (based on recent duals like the Ohio State matchup) and their predicted placements:


• 125 lbs: Luke Lilledahl (Sophomore, 16-0 record, National No. 1)
Lilledahl has been flawless, with key wins like a 4-1 sudden victory over Ohio State’s No. 2 Nic Bouzakis. He’s the projected No. 1 seed in the Big Ten, ahead of Bouzakis, Iowa’s Dean Peterson, and Minnesota’s Jore Volk. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s the clear favorite in a weight where Penn State has historically excelled.


• 133 lbs: Marcus Blaze (Freshman, 18-0 record, National No. 2)
Blaze has impressed in his debut season, including a tight 3-2 tiebreaker win over Ohio State’s No. 5 Ben Davino. However, Illinois’ Lucas Byrd holds the national No. 1 spot and has a strong conference resume, positioning him as the likely top seed. Blaze is projected as the No. 2 seed. Predicted finish: 2nd. He could challenge for the title if he draws Byrd in the finals, but Byrd’s experience gives him the edge.


• 141 lbs: Braeden Davis (Junior, 8-3 record, National No. 12)
Davis has solid wins but struggled against elite competition, like a tech fall loss to Ohio State’s No. 1 Jesse Mendez. The Big Ten is loaded here with Mendez (OSU), Real Woods or successor at Iowa, Nebraska’s Brock Hardy (national top 5), and Rutgers’ Michael Olivieri. Davis is likely a mid-tier seed (5th-7th). Predicted finish: 6th. He should qualify for NCAAs but may need the consolation bracket for a podium spot.


• 149 lbs: Shayne Van Ness (Junior, 17-0 record, National No. 1)
Van Ness has been dominant, tech-falling opponents like Ohio State’s Brogan Fielding. He’s the unquestioned top seed in the Big Ten, ahead of challengers like Michigan’s Sergio Lemley or Iowa’s Victor Voinovich. Predicted finish: 1st. His explosiveness and undefeated streak make him a lock for the title.


• 157 lbs: PJ Duke (Freshman, 14-1 record, National No. 3)
Duke has only one loss and pinned Ohio State’s Daxton Chase. The weight features tough Big Ten foes like Michigan’s Will Lewan or Illinois’ Kannon Webster (potential No. 1-2 seeds), but Duke’s youth and talent could shine. Projected as the No. 3 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. He has the tools to reach the finals but may settle for bronze in a competitive bracket.


• 165 lbs: Mitchell Mesenbrink (Junior, 15-0 record, National No. 1)
Mesenbrink has been unstoppable, major-decisioning Ohio State’s Paddy Gallagher. He’s the top seed by a wide margin over Michigan’s Cameron Amine, Iowa’s Michael Caliendo, or others. Predicted finish: 1st. This weight plays to his aggressive style, and he’s favored heavily.


• 174 lbs: Levi Haines (Senior, 13-0 record, National No. 1)
Haines tech-falled Ohio State’s PJ Schierl and remains unbeaten. As the projected No. 1 seed, he’s ahead of Ohio State’s Rocco Kharchla, Nebraska’s Antrell Taylor, or Michigan’s Shane Kennedy. Predicted finish: 1st. His consistency and senior leadership make him the frontrunner.


• 184 lbs: Rocco Welsh (Sophomore, 12-2 record, National No. 1)
Welsh edged Ohio State’s Dylan Fishback 7-6 and holds the national top spot despite two close losses early in the season. He’s the likely No. 1 seed over Minnesota’s Isaiah Salazar or Iowa’s Aiden McEnelly. Predicted finish: 1st. His recent form suggests he’ll defend his ranking.


• 197 lbs: Josh Barr (Sophomore, 11-1 record, National No. 1)
Barr majored Ohio State’s Luke Geog and has just one loss. As the top seed, he leads over Rutgers’ John Poznanski, Iowa’s Stephen Buchanan, or Michigan’s Jaden Bullock. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s in prime position for a conference crown.


• 285 lbs (HWT): Cole Mirasola (Freshman, 13-4 record, National No. 6)
Mirasola has surged with a 4-1 sudden victory upset over Ohio State’s No. 3 Nick Feldman, boosting his ranking. The Big Ten heavies include Feldman (likely No. 1 seed), Michigan’s Lucas Davison, or Rutgers’ Yurii Klinski. Mirasola projects as a No. 3-4 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. His momentum could push him to the podium, but the top heavies are battle-tested.


Overall, Penn State is projected to win the team title convincingly, potentially with 6-7 individual champions and all 10 wrestlers on the podium. This aligns with their regular-season dominance and national rankings (six at No. 1). Key variables include bracket draws, injury avoidance, and performance under tournament pressure. Sources include InterMat rankings , FloWrestling Big Ten previews , WrestleStat records , and seeding discussions from InterMat forums .
Horribly inaccurate. What is Grok?
 
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Horribly inaccurate. What is Grok?
The AI engine associated with Elon Musk. I tried it, ChatGPT and Gemini which are all AI and this one actually had fewer glaring errors. 😳

This is the prompt I used "Based on this seasons results and any other pertinent information, what are the predicted finishes of each Penn State starting wrestler at the Big10 championships."
 

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Penn State Wrestling Predicted Finishes at 2026 Big Ten Championships


The 2026 Big Ten Wrestling Championships are scheduled for early March, and predictions are based on the team’s performance through mid-February 2026. Penn State has dominated the regular season, finishing 14-0 overall and 8-0 in conference duals, including decisive wins over top rivals like Ohio State (36-5), Michigan (38-3), and Nebraska (26-12). The Nittany Lions have seven unbeaten wrestlers and multiple national No. 1 rankings per the latest InterMat update (as of February 17, 2026). Predictions factor in season records, national rankings, head-to-head results (e.g., from the Ohio State dual), conference depth, and projected seeds from wrestling forums and analysts. Big Ten seeding criteria emphasize conference records, head-to-head matchups, and quality wins, so top seeds often correlate with strong finishes—but upsets happen in this stacked conference.


Here’s a weight-by-weight breakdown of Penn State’s projected starters (based on recent duals like the Ohio State matchup) and their predicted placements:


• 125 lbs: Luke Lilledahl (Sophomore, 16-0 record, National No. 1)
Lilledahl has been flawless, with key wins like a 4-1 sudden victory over Ohio State’s No. 2 Nic Bouzakis. He’s the projected No. 1 seed in the Big Ten, ahead of Bouzakis, Iowa’s Dean Peterson, and Minnesota’s Jore Volk. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s the clear favorite in a weight where Penn State has historically excelled.


• 133 lbs: Marcus Blaze (Freshman, 18-0 record, National No. 2)
Blaze has impressed in his debut season, including a tight 3-2 tiebreaker win over Ohio State’s No. 5 Ben Davino. However, Illinois’ Lucas Byrd holds the national No. 1 spot and has a strong conference resume, positioning him as the likely top seed. Blaze is projected as the No. 2 seed. Predicted finish: 2nd. He could challenge for the title if he draws Byrd in the finals, but Byrd’s experience gives him the edge.


• 141 lbs: Braeden Davis (Junior, 8-3 record, National No. 12)
Davis has solid wins but struggled against elite competition, like a tech fall loss to Ohio State’s No. 1 Jesse Mendez. The Big Ten is loaded here with Mendez (OSU), Real Woods or successor at Iowa, Nebraska’s Brock Hardy (national top 5), and Rutgers’ Michael Olivieri. Davis is likely a mid-tier seed (5th-7th). Predicted finish: 6th. He should qualify for NCAAs but may need the consolation bracket for a podium spot.


• 149 lbs: Shayne Van Ness (Junior, 17-0 record, National No. 1)
Van Ness has been dominant, tech-falling opponents like Ohio State’s Brogan Fielding. He’s the unquestioned top seed in the Big Ten, ahead of challengers like Michigan’s Sergio Lemley or Iowa’s Victor Voinovich. Predicted finish: 1st. His explosiveness and undefeated streak make him a lock for the title.


• 157 lbs: PJ Duke (Freshman, 14-1 record, National No. 3)
Duke has only one loss and pinned Ohio State’s Daxton Chase. The weight features tough Big Ten foes like Michigan’s Will Lewan or Illinois’ Kannon Webster (potential No. 1-2 seeds), but Duke’s youth and talent could shine. Projected as the No. 3 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. He has the tools to reach the finals but may settle for bronze in a competitive bracket.


• 165 lbs: Mitchell Mesenbrink (Junior, 15-0 record, National No. 1)
Mesenbrink has been unstoppable, major-decisioning Ohio State’s Paddy Gallagher. He’s the top seed by a wide margin over Michigan’s Cameron Amine, Iowa’s Michael Caliendo, or others. Predicted finish: 1st. This weight plays to his aggressive style, and he’s favored heavily.


• 174 lbs: Levi Haines (Senior, 13-0 record, National No. 1)
Haines tech-falled Ohio State’s PJ Schierl and remains unbeaten. As the projected No. 1 seed, he’s ahead of Ohio State’s Rocco Kharchla, Nebraska’s Antrell Taylor, or Michigan’s Shane Kennedy. Predicted finish: 1st. His consistency and senior leadership make him the frontrunner.


• 184 lbs: Rocco Welsh (Sophomore, 12-2 record, National No. 1)
Welsh edged Ohio State’s Dylan Fishback 7-6 and holds the national top spot despite two close losses early in the season. He’s the likely No. 1 seed over Minnesota’s Isaiah Salazar or Iowa’s Aiden McEnelly. Predicted finish: 1st. His recent form suggests he’ll defend his ranking.


• 197 lbs: Josh Barr (Sophomore, 11-1 record, National No. 1)
Barr majored Ohio State’s Luke Geog and has just one loss. As the top seed, he leads over Rutgers’ John Poznanski, Iowa’s Stephen Buchanan, or Michigan’s Jaden Bullock. Predicted finish: 1st. He’s in prime position for a conference crown.


• 285 lbs (HWT): Cole Mirasola (Freshman, 13-4 record, National No. 6)
Mirasola has surged with a 4-1 sudden victory upset over Ohio State’s No. 3 Nick Feldman, boosting his ranking. The Big Ten heavies include Feldman (likely No. 1 seed), Michigan’s Lucas Davison, or Rutgers’ Yurii Klinski. Mirasola projects as a No. 3-4 seed. Predicted finish: 3rd. His momentum could push him to the podium, but the top heavies are battle-tested.


Overall, Penn State is projected to win the team title convincingly, potentially with 6-7 individual champions and all 10 wrestlers on the podium. This aligns with their regular-season dominance and national rankings (six at No. 1). Key variables include bracket draws, injury avoidance, and performance under tournament pressure. Sources include InterMat rankings , FloWrestling Big Ten previews , WrestleStat records , and seeding discussions from InterMat forums .
why are you mentioning guys that are no longer wrestling?
 

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With an adjusted prompt, Gemini (by Google) did better but needed to figure in more bonus points that would bringing the total closer to 200!
 

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This is the prompt I used "Based on this seasons results and any other pertinent information, what are the predicted finishes of each Penn State starting wrestler at the Big10 championships."
As a very earlier adopter who uses multiple GAI, RPA, ML, and AAI daily for both personal and professional use, your prompt is terrible. All of you critical of the AI output in this poorly constructed example most likely lack any understanding of how AI systems work and the requirements that need to be met to produce good results.
If I have time, after conference championships are done but ideally before the NCAA seedings are announced, I will provide the needed data and write a much more elaborate prompt. The objective will be to predict the AA at each weight. It absolutely won't be 100% accurate because **** happens. But I am interested to test my skills and that of AI to see just how close it can predict podium finishes.
 

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As a very earlier adopter who uses multiple GAI, RPA, ML, and AAI daily for both personal and professional use, your prompt is terrible. All of you critical of the AI output in this poorly constructed example most likely lack any understanding of how AI systems work and the requirements that need to be met to produce good results.
If I have time, after conference championships are done but ideally before the NCAA seedings are announced, I will provide the needed data and write a much more elaborate prompt. The objective will be to predict the AA at each weight. It absolutely won't be 100% accurate because **** happens. But I am interested to test my skills and that of AI to see just how close it can predict podium finishes.
Is that you, Grok?
 

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I would be interested to see what it comes up with after proper prompting. I have little knowledge of AI and was just curious as to how the different versions would address the same prompt. I am 75 and not too much of a computer maven, LOL.
 
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As a very earlier adopter who uses multiple GAI, RPA, ML, and AAI daily for both personal and professional use, your prompt is terrible. All of you critical of the AI output in this poorly constructed example most likely lack any understanding of how AI systems work and the requirements that need to be met to produce good results.
If I have time, after conference championships are done but ideally before the NCAA seedings are announced, I will provide the needed data and write a much more elaborate prompt. The objective will be to predict the AA at each weight. It absolutely won't be 100% accurate because **** happens. But I am interested to test my skills and that of AI to see just how close it can predict podium finishes.
And some good comes out of early disaster!
 

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As a very earlier adopter who uses multiple GAI, RPA, ML, and AAI daily for both personal and professional use, your prompt is terrible. All of you critical of the AI output in this poorly constructed example most likely lack any understanding of how AI systems work and the requirements that need to be met to produce good results.
If I have time, after conference championships are done but ideally before the NCAA seedings are announced, I will provide the needed data and write a much more elaborate prompt. The objective will be to predict the AA at each weight. It absolutely won't be 100% accurate because **** happens. But I am interested to test my skills and that of AI to see just how close it can predict podium finishes.
 
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The AI engine associated with Elon Musk. I tried it, ChatGPT and Gemini which are all AI and this one actually had fewer glaring errors. 😳

This is the prompt I used "Based on this seasons results and any other pertinent information, what are the predicted finishes of each Penn State starting wrestler at the Big10 championships."
In my experience, they all have specific strengths and very obvious weaknesses. I have yet to find something Gemini is good at; without a doubt, the worst. Some of them are getting really good at finding citations for scientific research (ie. Consensus, Perplexity), but - for the time being - you'd be insane to have them write a scientific protocol or publication draft. Regardless of what you are doing, the key is to become an expert prompt-writer and you have to be an editor/proofreader. It is shocking how often professionals (I am in healthcare and clinical research, so MDs and PhDs) use AI for everything and clearly don't know how to provide effective prompts and don't even read the response before hitting "submit".

I can't say I've ever entered in a sports-related prompt of any kind, so this area is new to me. Not surprising how poor the response was.
 
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Grok seems to do just fine with my garbled questions but I'm asking to calculate the recoil energy of my hunting rifle or just something stupid.

I think it understand F tardo.
 

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In my experience, they all have specific strengths and very obvious weaknesses. I have yet to find something Gemini is good at; without a doubt, the worst. Some of them are getting really good at finding citations for scientific research (ie. Consensus, Perplexity), but - for the time being - you'd be insane to have them write a scientific protocol or publication draft. Regardless of what you are doing, the key is to become an expert prompt-writer and you have to be an editor/proofreader. It is shocking how often professionals (I am in healthcare and clinical research, so MDs and PhDs) use AI for everything and clearly don't know how to provide effective prompts and don't even read the response before hitting "submit".

I can't say I've ever entered in a sports-related prompt of any kind, so this area is new to me. Not surprising how poor the response was.
I've tried it with sports questions and I'm surprised at how accurate it can be. However if it's how many copies of meatloaf's first album were sold or how to calculate recoil energy or a ballistics table it's awesome.

I find with relatively specific simple questions. It's great.
 

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AI is both beneficial and frightening at the same time from a medical standpoint. My son is an anesthesiologist and he speaks highly of how it will advance medical diagnoses and protocols in the future but some of its implications are downright scary.
 
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As the perfect name for a punishing, mauling wrestler, I asked and it answered:

No, there has never been an NCAA wrestler with the surname "Grok." ;)
My theory is his parents meant to name him Grok Mauller, but due to a misunderstanding the hospital put the wrong name on the birth cerificate and it stuck.
 
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I started curating high-quality knowledge on how the NCAA tournament is structured and how scoring works to train an AI. Based on that basic knowledge, I then gave it successively harder scenarios to figure out. Here is the hardest one and it's answer. This is just the beginning. It will need a lot more to make predictions on top 8 finishers and total points earned. But it clearly has a solid understanding of tournament progression and scoring based on just a few documents I provided.

Scenario:
wrestler is seeded 32. he wins bout 1 by score 9-0. he wins bout 2 by score 8-3. he wins bout 3 by score 4-3 in sudden victory. he wins bout 4 by medical forfeit. he losses bout 5 by TF in 4:32. he wins bout 6 by 12-2. he losses bout 7 by 4-1. what place did he finish and how many team points did he earn?

Answer:
Based on the scoring rules and tournament structure detailed in the sources, the wrestler in this scenario finished in 4th place and earned a total of 17.5 team points.
As a #32 seed, the wrestler was required to compete in a "pigtail" (preliminary) match to enter the field of 32. His sequence of four consecutive wins (pigtail, round of 32, round of 16, and quarterfinals) advanced him to the Championship Semifinals. Following his loss there, he dropped into the consolation bracket for the Consolation Semifinals, which he won, finally losing the 3rd-place match to finish 4th.
Here is the step-by-step scoring breakdown:
1. Placement Points (9.0 Points)
By reaching the 3rd-place match and losing, the wrestler secured a 4th-place finish. According to the Oklahoma State scoring breakdown, a 4th-place finish earns 9 team points.
2. Advancement Points (4.5 Points)
Teams earn points for every match won as a wrestler advances through the brackets:
Bouts 1, 2, 3, and 4: These four wins in the championship bracket (pigtail, round of 32, round of 16, and quarterfinals) earn 1.0 point each, totaling 4.0 points.
Bout 5 (Semifinals): No points are earned for this loss.
Bout 6 (Consolation Semifinals): A win in the consolation bracket earns 0.5 points.
Bout 7 (3rd-Place Match): Advancement points are not awarded in placement matches.
3. Bonus Points (4.0 Points)
Bonus points are awarded for dominant victories:
Bout 1 (Score 9-0): A victory by 8 to 14 points is a major decision, earning 1.0 bonus point.
Bouts 2 & 3: These were regular decisions (winning by fewer than 8 points), which earn 0 bonus points.
Bout 4 (Medical Forfeit): A win by forfeit earns 2.0 bonus points.
Bout 6 (Score 12-2): A victory by 10 points is a major decision, earning 1.0 bonus point.
Bouts 5 & 7: No bonus points are earned in losses.
Total Calculation: 9.0 (Placement) + 4.5 (Advancement) + 4.0 (Bonus) = 17.5 team points.
 

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I started curating high-quality knowledge on how the NCAA tournament is structured and how scoring works to train an AI. Based on that basic knowledge, I then gave it successively harder scenarios to figure out. Here is the hardest one and it's answer. This is just the beginning. It will need a lot more to make predictions on top 8 finishers and total points earned. But it clearly has a solid understanding of tournament progression and scoring based on just a few documents I provided.

Scenario:
wrestler is seeded 32. he wins bout 1 by score 9-0. he wins bout 2 by score 8-3. he wins bout 3 by score 4-3 in sudden victory. he wins bout 4 by medical forfeit. he losses bout 5 by TF in 4:32. he wins bout 6 by 12-2. he losses bout 7 by 4-1. what place did he finish and how many team points did he earn?

Answer:
Based on the scoring rules and tournament structure detailed in the sources, the wrestler in this scenario finished in 4th place and earned a total of 17.5 team points.
As a #32 seed, the wrestler was required to compete in a "pigtail" (preliminary) match to enter the field of 32. His sequence of four consecutive wins (pigtail, round of 32, round of 16, and quarterfinals) advanced him to the Championship Semifinals. Following his loss there, he dropped into the consolation bracket for the Consolation Semifinals, which he won, finally losing the 3rd-place match to finish 4th.
Here is the step-by-step scoring breakdown:
1. Placement Points (9.0 Points)
By reaching the 3rd-place match and losing, the wrestler secured a 4th-place finish. According to the Oklahoma State scoring breakdown, a 4th-place finish earns 9 team points.
2. Advancement Points (4.5 Points)
Teams earn points for every match won as a wrestler advances through the brackets:
Bouts 1, 2, 3, and 4: These four wins in the championship bracket (pigtail, round of 32, round of 16, and quarterfinals) earn 1.0 point each, totaling 4.0 points.
Bout 5 (Semifinals): No points are earned for this loss.
Bout 6 (Consolation Semifinals): A win in the consolation bracket earns 0.5 points.
Bout 7 (3rd-Place Match): Advancement points are not awarded in placement matches.
3. Bonus Points (4.0 Points)
Bonus points are awarded for dominant victories:
Bout 1 (Score 9-0): A victory by 8 to 14 points is a major decision, earning 1.0 bonus point.
Bouts 2 & 3: These were regular decisions (winning by fewer than 8 points), which earn 0 bonus points.
Bout 4 (Medical Forfeit): A win by forfeit earns 2.0 bonus points.
Bout 6 (Score 12-2): A victory by 10 points is a major decision, earning 1.0 bonus point.
Bouts 5 & 7: No bonus points are earned in losses.
Total Calculation: 9.0 (Placement) + 4.5 (Advancement) + 4.0 (Bonus) = 17.5 team points.
Your math and reasoning are correct. Good job.
 
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